Just bumping this bugger, because of all the work that people have put into it.
The engine is sound,
But is not finished.
It needs a remix so that the video will boot straight to desktop on every computer known and unknown. (My crap solution was to put Xorg High into the modules/ bits).
I still get the @ and " (There it goes again) keys the wrong way round until restart X...
Apart from that it is a snappy Puppy suitable for midrange comps.
Don't know what it is like on i5's and stuff, but a friend told me that his i5 slows down and crashes on windows 10 or whatever it is now.
I did notice his browser was Internet Explorer, sheesh.
And until some Puppy kernel will run my Lexicon core soundcards and do full bluetooth I will stick with this bread and butter Linux.
Tried Linux lite, very nice, but bluetooth failed for linphone and you know, systemd, rm/f and frustratingly no root. And light? Couldn't expand it out to a stick, 5gb and counting...counting..error. Front end very nice though...
But so is Puppy with Tint and correct configs and a bit of QT. And 800mb expanded even with wine and essentials for music, writing letters, printing, calc,spreadsheet, graphics, net.
Dpup Wheezy. Woof-CE built debian wheezy 7.2 packages used
Hello Musher, there's nothing missing.
In a 369mb Dpup, I have Qtractor with vst amps, reverbs delays etc, Jack pure audio paths, Linphone, Skype, Wavosaur, XMPlay, Spotify, FF42, email, little gimp+mtpaint and carefully selected tools for word processing, peasy gear for pdfs and quick graphics helper tools.
It packs a punch! No fat,
I like the fact that it is one SFS, not the method with the extra SFS with the kernel in it which can get lost. The network indicators have been eroded in the new puppies. I liked the old network tray and ram indicator that works in a fashion and Barry's SNS. Not perfect, but lively at least!
So this is one of the last puppies before some of the changes.
Sure I've tried the Debian dogs and they are good. I would certainly go that route rather than another bloated Linux if I needed the package manager apt get.
But I like pets debs rpms and sfs etc. You don't have to type stuff in a console.
Tried a couple of Stemsee's, but as you commented there were a few problems here and there, and big, very big (ooh yes missus).
I just don't see the point in reinventing the wheel all the time, not if one just wants a puppy to do average stuff.
Because you download a new distro, *iss about tweaking it and it is usually better at some things and worse at others. Then you realise that another few hours of your life have been frittered away lol.
Especially difficult for example, is getting all midi and audio files to play when clicked, in XMPlay when I use a new distro.
If I could get or make a few routine script (s) that I could drop in, then that might improve things.
Same with graphics but not as difficult as sometimes I want Gimp, other times MTPaint.
A gradual, incremented, modular approach is what was carried out with Dpup by OscarTalks, and as a result, the Pemasu dpup became a very nice slim distro, who cares if it's a 3.5.2 kernel?
If another one can be slipped in with the modules as needed, then that's fine.
Purely so that it will run on a newer computer with newer hardware.
I was bumping this precisely because it is a decent distro.
Friends noticed a slighly better performance and UI tweaks over Lucid, another cracker.
I've not tried Micko's Slackos since 5.7 but I know his thins were brilliant and the 533 but couldn't get the QT right on one Sacko without masses of "double dipping" ( the @ and " have just decided to put themselves on the right keys lol) and QT ended up hundreds of mbs.
I'm not grumbling, just bumping, because newer is not always better, even though I am about to try out the new Qtractor just to see if newer is better
.
So there we are, an uncharacteristically expialidociously long thread.
In a 369mb Dpup, I have Qtractor with vst amps, reverbs delays etc, Jack pure audio paths, Linphone, Skype, Wavosaur, XMPlay, Spotify, FF42, email, little gimp+mtpaint and carefully selected tools for word processing, peasy gear for pdfs and quick graphics helper tools.
It packs a punch! No fat,
I like the fact that it is one SFS, not the method with the extra SFS with the kernel in it which can get lost. The network indicators have been eroded in the new puppies. I liked the old network tray and ram indicator that works in a fashion and Barry's SNS. Not perfect, but lively at least!
So this is one of the last puppies before some of the changes.
Sure I've tried the Debian dogs and they are good. I would certainly go that route rather than another bloated Linux if I needed the package manager apt get.
But I like pets debs rpms and sfs etc. You don't have to type stuff in a console.
Tried a couple of Stemsee's, but as you commented there were a few problems here and there, and big, very big (ooh yes missus).
I just don't see the point in reinventing the wheel all the time, not if one just wants a puppy to do average stuff.
Because you download a new distro, *iss about tweaking it and it is usually better at some things and worse at others. Then you realise that another few hours of your life have been frittered away lol.
Especially difficult for example, is getting all midi and audio files to play when clicked, in XMPlay when I use a new distro.
If I could get or make a few routine script (s) that I could drop in, then that might improve things.
Same with graphics but not as difficult as sometimes I want Gimp, other times MTPaint.
A gradual, incremented, modular approach is what was carried out with Dpup by OscarTalks, and as a result, the Pemasu dpup became a very nice slim distro, who cares if it's a 3.5.2 kernel?
If another one can be slipped in with the modules as needed, then that's fine.
Purely so that it will run on a newer computer with newer hardware.
I was bumping this precisely because it is a decent distro.
Friends noticed a slighly better performance and UI tweaks over Lucid, another cracker.
I've not tried Micko's Slackos since 5.7 but I know his thins were brilliant and the 533 but couldn't get the QT right on one Sacko without masses of "double dipping" ( the @ and " have just decided to put themselves on the right keys lol) and QT ended up hundreds of mbs.
I'm not grumbling, just bumping, because newer is not always better, even though I am about to try out the new Qtractor just to see if newer is better
.So there we are, an uncharacteristically expialidociously long thread.
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Pelo
Retrovol master bar is not activated
some feed back for wheezy puppies ,
Retrovol master bar is not activated, that could loose many of our newbies...
Pemasu, please remasterize Polarpup Qt005, it's the best Qt one i have ever used..
Retrovol master bar is not activated, that could loose many of our newbies...
Pemasu, please remasterize Polarpup Qt005, it's the best Qt one i have ever used..
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This is a recent svn snapshot build of SMPlayer front-end with recent svn snapshot build of mplayer (gMplayer) all compiled in Dpup Wheezy and seen here playing a HEVC/H265 video.
The SMPlayer is offered as "no need to install Qt" as it has its own private libs included although it is not exactly a small package. Some people may prefer this GUI to the other alternatives. It does have lots of translations available. Also it has a setting in preferences to enable multiple threads for multiple CPU cores.
The SMPlayer is offered as "no need to install Qt" as it has its own private libs included although it is not exactly a small package. Some people may prefer this GUI to the other alternatives. It does have lots of translations available. Also it has a setting in preferences to enable multiple threads for multiple CPU cores.
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the topic is alive, not 'discontinued'
page 51, happy to see that the topic is alive, not 'discontinued' as newer Wheezy ones.
Wheezy has a future ! waiting for Jessie. Please ring our bell when released (not for test, because all testers have left). Often the captain leaves the Wheezy boat before the passengers.
Users, please burn RW-CDs, Ubuntu packages are now debian ones.. Huge ! Puppy-makers have no time to compile pets. So use old Dpup squeeze or Dpup 487, a lot of pets, prepaired especially to get your life easier are provided by Dejan. Don't worry if they are not up to date, they will run your computer without fullfilling your 512MB RAM. My Golden CD is squeeze-5.X.3.4.12-SCSI.iso: 138 M
Of course, when the final jessie will be ready, that could be reconsidered. No doubt it will change our life
European versions : (Artistic touch)
Pupjibaro Wheezy is the latest version, nice version (Don't be afraid by Pupjibaro, it's a Precise version, with perfect english available)
Discontinued english forum, because Josejp2424 is fully studying a Jessie version besides his shiba inu.
Customers, send orders right now, You will be served when Jessie released. Full service will be assumed.
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Dpup 487 ; see topic here. Captain Dejan still provides anwsers to questions. My laptops : acer aspire born 2004 is happy with this Dpup, very nice too, and the difference is not such big with newest versions, just update your browser, and a newbie will not see a difference with a wheezy version. My Medion 64 bits, born 2012, jealous, cannot run this version. So i remasterized it with kernel 3.0.25.
Wheezy has a future ! waiting for Jessie. Please ring our bell when released (not for test, because all testers have left). Often the captain leaves the Wheezy boat before the passengers.
Users, please burn RW-CDs, Ubuntu packages are now debian ones.. Huge ! Puppy-makers have no time to compile pets. So use old Dpup squeeze or Dpup 487, a lot of pets, prepaired especially to get your life easier are provided by Dejan. Don't worry if they are not up to date, they will run your computer without fullfilling your 512MB RAM. My Golden CD is squeeze-5.X.3.4.12-SCSI.iso: 138 M
Of course, when the final jessie will be ready, that could be reconsidered. No doubt it will change our life
European versions : (Artistic touch)
Pupjibaro Wheezy is the latest version, nice version (Don't be afraid by Pupjibaro, it's a Precise version, with perfect english available)
Discontinued english forum, because Josejp2424 is fully studying a Jessie version besides his shiba inu.
Customers, send orders right now, You will be served when Jessie released. Full service will be assumed.
:
Dpup 487 ; see topic here. Captain Dejan still provides anwsers to questions. My laptops : acer aspire born 2004 is happy with this Dpup, very nice too, and the difference is not such big with newest versions, just update your browser, and a newbie will not see a difference with a wheezy version. My Medion 64 bits, born 2012, jealous, cannot run this version. So i remasterized it with kernel 3.0.25.
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The original Firefox in Pemasu's Dpup Wheezy is now very old and I'm not sure where it came from.
Most people know that it is fairly easy to take a recent or latest official build and use that, but I find that these are VERY slow and heavy. This is especially noticeable on older hardware. (Recent official builds of SeaMonkey are also very heavy and slow).
I managed to compile the latest Firefox from the source code. It is the ESR version and the official branding is disabled so it can be distributed freely without permission (I believe ?). This means that it shows as "Nightly" not "Firefox", but it is really Firefox so you can start it with that command or leave the menu entry as Firefox.
So I have named it as firefoxESR-nightly-45.0.1-i686-wheezy
This Firefox Nightly is compiled with various options to try to make it lighter and faster and it seems to have worked quite well. Things like UPDATER and crash reporter and parental controls and D-Bus are disabled.
For a long time I was unable to compile Firefox or SeaMonkey in Wheezy. I had to do some digging and make a few tweaks including manual editing of a header file in /usr/include/linux
It is EXPERIMENTAL of course.
EDIT
There was a problem with right-click options not working properly on that version so I have removed it. It seems even the Debian devs don't compile later than 38.7.1 ESR in Wheezy so I have gone back to that version. Will be testing that one for a while.
https://yadi.sk/d/S7ktsYZPqg2Lc
Most people know that it is fairly easy to take a recent or latest official build and use that, but I find that these are VERY slow and heavy. This is especially noticeable on older hardware. (Recent official builds of SeaMonkey are also very heavy and slow).
I managed to compile the latest Firefox from the source code. It is the ESR version and the official branding is disabled so it can be distributed freely without permission (I believe ?). This means that it shows as "Nightly" not "Firefox", but it is really Firefox so you can start it with that command or leave the menu entry as Firefox.
So I have named it as firefoxESR-nightly-45.0.1-i686-wheezy
This Firefox Nightly is compiled with various options to try to make it lighter and faster and it seems to have worked quite well. Things like UPDATER and crash reporter and parental controls and D-Bus are disabled.
For a long time I was unable to compile Firefox or SeaMonkey in Wheezy. I had to do some digging and make a few tweaks including manual editing of a header file in /usr/include/linux
It is EXPERIMENTAL of course.
EDIT
There was a problem with right-click options not working properly on that version so I have removed it. It seems even the Debian devs don't compile later than 38.7.1 ESR in Wheezy so I have gone back to that version. Will be testing that one for a while.
https://yadi.sk/d/S7ktsYZPqg2Lc
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Many thanks, OscarTalks.
I wouldn't know, I've never compiled a Firefox, but I believe you!
I downloaded and installed your version of FF. Then, I did a test with a stopwatch
app. Your compilation of Firefox clocks in at 15.7 seconds from start of command
to display of a page, whereas seamonkey-2.26 takes 39 seconds to do the same.
I do not have an "ex-factory" FF installed on this PupJibaro-Jessie-beta, so I cannot
do a proper comparison. Maybe another user could confirm. Still, I find the difference
in the load times quite Impressive.
Very good work, I'd say!.
BFN.
I wouldn't know, I've never compiled a Firefox, but I believe you!
I downloaded and installed your version of FF. Then, I did a test with a stopwatch
app. Your compilation of Firefox clocks in at 15.7 seconds from start of command
to display of a page, whereas seamonkey-2.26 takes 39 seconds to do the same.
I do not have an "ex-factory" FF installed on this PupJibaro-Jessie-beta, so I cannot
do a proper comparison. Maybe another user could confirm. Still, I find the difference
in the load times quite Impressive.
Very good work, I'd say!.
BFN.
musher0
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I found that the Firefox browser had a problem with right-click behaviour. I guess it may need a patch or something. I have rolled back to an earlier ESR version which I am testing for now. I might try the non-ESR version or see how things go when they release the next one.
I compiled the latest gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.9 in Wheezy
This is a collection of 5 browser plugins to allow playing media directly in the browser.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Also, maybe not high priority, but I compiled the latest release of gtkhash. Version number is 0.7.0
I compiled the latest gecko-mediaplayer 1.0.9 in Wheezy
This is a collection of 5 browser plugins to allow playing media directly in the browser.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Also, maybe not high priority, but I compiled the latest release of gtkhash. Version number is 0.7.0
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Netsurf web browser 3.6 (Dev)
http://netsurf-browser.org
Small, light and fast with its own version of javascript.
Everything downloaded as latest source from git and compiled in Wheezy.
(Will run in some other Puppies too).
EXPERIMENTAL build uploaded in case anyone wants to take a look.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
http://netsurf-browser.org
Small, light and fast with its own version of javascript.
Everything downloaded as latest source from git and compiled in Wheezy.
(Will run in some other Puppies too).
EXPERIMENTAL build uploaded in case anyone wants to take a look.
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
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@ Pelo
Not sure I understand the question, but gecko-mediaplayer is a browser plugin for playing media directly in the browser. I believe it depends on gnome-mplayer which is a front-end for mplayer so my understanding is that both of those need to be installed. In most Puppies they already are but if not you can easily install them from my repo or elsewhere.
@ Everyone
FIXED INKSCAPE LITE
I have compiled the patched version of inkscape lite in Wheezy.
This looks much nicer now with both horizontal and vertical rulers showing and working properly.
See here:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 781#899781
Uploaded to:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
In fact this package is in lots of Puppies in unpatched form and I reckon this Wheezy version should work in Precise, Slacko, Tahr etc.
Not sure I understand the question, but gecko-mediaplayer is a browser plugin for playing media directly in the browser. I believe it depends on gnome-mplayer which is a front-end for mplayer so my understanding is that both of those need to be installed. In most Puppies they already are but if not you can easily install them from my repo or elsewhere.
@ Everyone
FIXED INKSCAPE LITE
I have compiled the patched version of inkscape lite in Wheezy.
This looks much nicer now with both horizontal and vertical rulers showing and working properly.
See here:-
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 781#899781
Uploaded to:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
In fact this package is in lots of Puppies in unpatched form and I reckon this Wheezy version should work in Precise, Slacko, Tahr etc.
Oscar in England
Hi OTOscarTalks wrote:@ Everyone
FIXED INKSCAPE LITE
In fact this package is in lots of Puppies in unpatched form and I reckon this Wheezy version should work in Precise, Slacko, Tahr etc.
I've got a bit lost on which patches are needed....
Can you confirm that the patches needed to be applied to:
inkscapelite-0.36.3_patched-glib.tar.xz 2014-Oct-14 08:11:48 1.2M application/octet-stream
from: http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/sources/i/
are:
02-inkscapelite-fix-ruler.patch and
04-inkscapelite-fix-vruler.patch
My reason - I'd like to do a new pet-build for LxPupSc as your pet doesn't work there due to libpng differences -
Many Thanksinkscapelite: /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0: version `PNG12_0' not found (required by inkscapelite)
peebee
LxPup = Puppy + LXDEMain version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64
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Hi peebee,
In Wheezy and also when I tried it in Precise I only needed to apply those 2 ruler patches.
When I tested the same thing in Slacko 5.7 there was an error and I found I also had to apply the glib.h patch to fix it so you might find you need that one as well.
I did not apply the one that is named *.patch.disabled but instead I used the sed command line from the .conf file, but you have to do that between ./configure and make because it is editing a Makefile which is generated by configure.
In Wheezy and also when I tried it in Precise I only needed to apply those 2 ruler patches.
When I tested the same thing in Slacko 5.7 there was an error and I found I also had to apply the glib.h patch to fix it so you might find you need that one as well.
I did not apply the one that is named *.patch.disabled but instead I used the sed command line from the .conf file, but you have to do that between ./configure and make because it is editing a Makefile which is generated by configure.
Oscar in England
Here is Simple Screen Recorder for 3.5.2. Maybe other puppies too.
Seems to work very well, but you must select your correct soundcard in the dialogue (or untick if you don't want sound recorded).
http://www.smokey01.com/Smithy/
Seems to work very well, but you must select your correct soundcard in the dialogue (or untick if you don't want sound recorded).
http://www.smokey01.com/Smithy/
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Pelo
If SSR would work with Dpup Wheezy
If SSR would work with Dpup Wheezy, i could record my screenshot on my old laptop. If RAM is enough.. 512MB is not a lot. And videos get big very fast. I will try..
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Re: If SSR would work with Dpup Wheezy
any machine that has so little ram (you can increase with swap) probably has a slow processor too-- with the right amount of lightweight software, video capture of the desktop may be reasonable. low resources are often the most painful when recording or processing video, and 512 is very modest these days! i have twice that on this 7-year-old subnote im typing on! (it runs software heavier than dpup.)Pelo wrote:If SSR would work with Dpup Wheezy, i could record my screenshot on my old laptop. If RAM is enough.. 512MB is not a lot.