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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Feb 2016, 17:04    Post subject:  

Hi oui,

Quote:
xvidcap depends on libavcodec53 (>= 4:0.7-1) | libavcodec-extra-53 (>= 4:0.7-1); however:
Package libavcodec53 is not installed.


Yes, that doesn't work because it requires different version of libav-tools/ffmpeg dynamically linked.
I found that the version from sourceforge for jaunty is statically linked and works well on 32 bit Debian(dog)
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xvidcap/files/xvidcap/1.1.7/

So, because I like the program (Thanks for mentioning! Smile ) I went on compiling and packaging for 64 bit.
deb package:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/36381953/DebDog64-Jessie/Packages/Extra/xvidcap_1.1.7_amd64.deb

Added to the repository, so can be installed with apt-get:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install xvidcap


It works well for me recording with sound, default settings from device /dev/dsp, therefore added oss-compat as dependency also.

Nice quality picture and sound.
(for sound I had some trouble to configure it right with alsamixer, but that might be because of my soundcard, hda Intel, ad1981)

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Feb 2016, 17:32    Post subject:  

Hi Fred

I already am a step more:

- xvidcap has 2 important dependencies:

a/ imagemagick, no problem
b/ pulseaudio

- but pulseaudio hat not the right to run as "root"

and on systems where the sound manager works correctly and controls the rights, you can not use pulse audio after installation!

It is the old heritage of Puppy to work without some user (comparable with the old heritage of IBM PC to subdivise the memory in arbitrary areas!)
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Feb 2016, 17:51    Post subject:  

Hi oui,

The xvidcap package I provided in the DD64 repository has absolutely no dependency of pulseaudio.
Please try it, it should work with just alsa, I always try to avoid pulseaudio because I had bad experiences with it.

Edit: Re-uploaded the package because first time I forgot to add symlink to ppm2mpeg.sh script in /usr/local/bin (it's for single frame capture encoding) Fixed!
To reinstall:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install --reinstall xvidcap


Edit: Not exactly true that it just works with alsa, it's recording device is /dev/dsp which is OSS sound capture.
The small dependency "oss-compat" does the trick.
Information from Toni here about making it work for MintPUP (Ubuntu based) it does require pulseaudio:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=891555#891555

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PostPosted: Fri 04 Mar 2016, 17:47    Post subject:  

Hi Fred

Thank you very much for your real patience...

DebianDog64 is the first live distro making absolutely ALL that what I will and what I need, including, of course, as you did say in your last message sound in xvidcap: I record sound, of course, but only in extremely poor quality. I suppose that it is not an internal sound capture.

As this job is very important for me actually, I did reinstall Kubuntu stable with divers Ubuntu studios for video, sound, photo etc. to also try it and see the difference (the first difference is I did install about 10 Gb and have only the KDE more! In LazY Pup Unicorn 32 bit, I have the most interesting things of KDE, the version of Slax reused by Jejjy in form of an *.sfs usable in a lot of 32 bit Puppy's, in only 99 Mb!)

Nothing to do to install xvidcap in Kubuntu Willy Mad and divers little problems on my laptop (temperature = permanent fan noise, cursor leave a trace on the screen, CLI job opens outside of the screen and you have to move them back into the screen, bad correlation between keyboard layouts and usual keyboard short designations... to much for a distro wishing to be the best at the linux world! DebianDog64 is a lot better else if you don't have some KDE...).

but at the ubuntu forum, I did be made attentive on simply screen recorder as it easy to install in ubuntu willy as all dependencies are acquired:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maarten-baert/simplescreenrecorder
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get simplescreenrecorder


(xvidcap is, of course, really superior because of the easy handling, but the sound...)

kind regards
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2016, 17:28    Post subject:  

Hi oui,

I keep it short for now because I'm sick at the moment
I might reply later in more detail.

Quote:
as you did say in your last message sound in xvidcap: I record sound, of course, but only in extremely poor quality. I suppose that it is not an internal sound capture.


What are you recording from then?
From stereo-mix?
I did that and sounds good to me, maybe you record from microphone.(just a guess)
Again, please provide as much information about what you did as you can.

For stereo-mix I needed to enable "loopback", but that's probably soundcard specific.
See screenshot

Fred
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Mar 2016, 18:08    Post subject:  

New DebianDog64-Jessie iso image uploaded:
Iso: DebianDog64-Jessie-openbox-2016-03-20.iso Size: 185MB
Md5sum: DebianDog64-Jessie-openbox-2016-03-20.md5

DEVX: 061-DEVX-DebDog64-Jessie-2016-03-20.squashfs
Locales: 99-locales-DebDog64-2016-03-20.squashfs

Browse DebDog64-Jessie at DropBox

First post link and information updated.

First of all: The DebianDog64 repository has moved to smokey01.com.
Thanks to Toni (saintless), he was so kind to share the webspace with me for the 64-bit DebianDog packages.
http://smokey01.com/saintless/64-bit-DebianDog
Now it's for the custom repository in /etc/apt/sources.list:
Code:
deb http://smokey01.com/saintless/64-bit-DebianDog/Packages/ ./


Changes and fixes list and information:

1) ... Add package "rfkill"
Code:
apt-get install rfkill

This might be required to soft enable the wifi adapter via frisbee function script /usr/lib/frisbee/func.
See more from William's comment here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=877240#877240
2) ... Add small package "cpufrequtils"
Code:
apt-get install cpufrequtils

Useful included utilities:
- cpufreq-info. to get frequency info
- cpufreq-set, to set e,g. governor to powersave or performance etc... (default is 'ondemand')
It's included in all DebianDog 32 versions, forgot to include in DebianDog64
3) ... Add package "gpart" as it could be useful addition to gparted.
Code:
apt-get install gpart

4) ... Upgrade package "frisbee"
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install frisbee

See more here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=878313#878313
5) ... Fix and add some scripts: cowsave (fix, applies only for live-boot v3) remount-rw (add, applies only for live-boot v3, (was missing) )
6) ... Install new package 'sfsload' and upgrade of package 'portablesfs-loadsfs-fuse'
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install sfsload
apt-get install portablesfs-loadsfs-fuse

See for more info here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=878996#878996
7) ... Replace Ubuntu version of package libxml2 with the official Debian
For now; (may be upgraded to higher version in the future)
Code:
apt-get install libxml2=2.9.1+dfsg1-5+deb8u1

8] ... The small included package "transmission" (gtk2-based) conflicts with the official Debian version.
When trying to install the Debian version the package manager refuses because of some files existing with the same name.
Upgrade to the fixed DD64 package:
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install transmission-2.60

9) ... Fix for loading encrypted save file when using porteus-boot (using live-boot-3 works well)
Problem is with USB keyboard. Not possible to type the password as the module hid_generic is not loaded at this point (keyboard not enabled)
Fixed with new initrd1.xz
10) ... Add full LZ4 support, see here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=888453#888453
11) ... Packages upgraded for LZ4 support are: apt2sfs, remaster-scripts, edit-sfs-pcmanfm, squashfuse, squashfs-tools.
12) ... Package 'DogRadio' upgrade to 0.0.6 with some small improvements
13) ... Package 'openbox-light' upgrade to v 0.0.7, added keyboard shortcut presets.
14) ...Added new package 'porteusbootscripts'. Scripts for working together with porteus-boot options, these scripts are default already included in ISO, updated script in new package is /usr/bin/snapmergepuppy
The change in snapmergepuppy will prevent/fix possible crashing when upgrading libc6 (in case porteus-boot save-on-exit option used)
15) ... Bugfix: replace the currently installed "wget" package with version 1.15-1+b1
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install wget=1.15-1+b1

This solves a problem with "certificate not found" e.g. when installing package flashplugin-nonfree
16) ... Install new packages: f2fs-tools (for f2fs filesystem support) and flashplayerchoice
17) ... *** New *** ... f2fs filesystem support., modified initrd1.xz and initrd.img
As far as I know there's no bootloader that boots directly from f2fs, but anyway now it's possible to use a separate f2fs formatted partition to have the save storage on.
18] ... Default WebBrowser changed to Palemoon
Because of that (and some more cleaning) the size of the ISO became a lot smaller than before Smile

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Added new to DebianDog64 repository (also as an attempt to synchronize a bit more with DebianDog 32bit version repository):
- ceni, A Curses user interface for configuring network interfaces with ifupdown.
- yad-splash, graphical yad message utility.
- findnrun, a gtk-dialog based application finder and starter for freedesktop.org desktop application files.
- grub4dosconfig, Grub4DosConfig GUI script from Shinobar written for Puppy linux.
- slimjet, Slimjet is a fast, smart and powerful web browser based on the Blink engine
Modified for to run also as root (no sandbox)
- sfsload Replacement of scripts loadmodule and loadsfs
- Palemoon Browser Firefox-based, efficient and easy to use web browser
- flashplayerchoice Small utility for installing/removing flashplayer
- xvidcap A screen capture enabling you to capture videos off your X-Window desktop

Fred

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Mar 2016, 20:03    Post subject:  

Excellent. Downloading it now.

I'll do my normal configuration with it and report back.

edit:

Ok, done. Everything worked fine. Posting from it now.

To summarize:

-Switched to rox based desktop. Made some other little config changes that I always do.

Code:
apt-get install lxterminal mesa-utils  libgl1-mesa-dri firmware-linux-nonfree libva1 libva-x11-1 libva-tpi1 rar xine-ui usbutils gksu


Then installed the latest version of Chrome straight off the website.

Then uninstalled Palemoon.

Added script from before to run Chrome as user puppy from inside root account.

Then remastered as xz type. Remastered file turned out to be 219 Mb.

Great work.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2016, 16:07    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2016, 19:14    Post subject:  

I wanted to enable the login for DD64. The Jessie 32 thread said to download slim. The link went to a 386 version. So I installed slim from the Debian Repo instead.

Seems to work and I am able to log in as root or as puppy. There was nothing in the menu though and no *.desktop file in /usr/shared/applications.

Slim was already enabled in the start up utility. I also enabled sudo in the start up utility.

I was not able to figure out how to exit back to the console. When I choose exit off the menu, it logs out and goes back to the slim login screen. If someone knows how to do that off the top of their heads, please let me know. No urgency, I am just playing around.

edit: Okay, I figured it out. When you are at the slim login page, just type exit into the user name. That will cause you to exit to the console. Then, when you want to go back to X, just type "slim", which will bring the slim login page back again.

edit again: When you go to console by typing "exit" in the user name, it sends you to the console logged in as root (which kind of defeats the purpose of locking it down). To fix that, simply change the default autologin to puppy as explained here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=850601#850601. Then, type "sudo slim" at the console to get back to slim login screen.
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2016, 23:01    Post subject: i let them finish the job  

"Seems to work and I am able to log in as root or as puppy. There was nothing in the menu though and no *.desktop file in /usr/shared/applications".
i was decided to take a glance at the hungarian version, but 'nothing in the menu" makes it useless, unless i am a developer , what i am not. I download ISO in spite of my doubts of non linuxian graduate.
Debian Puppies are starting from zero, let them finish the job.
"So I compiled latest kernel 4.4.0-rc8 with the aufs patches.
This it not at all "pure" Debian, that's why stated above: "Experimental"
"
If it was a real Puppy, it coud not be a pure Debian
What do you want ; a puppy with Debian packages or a Debian running fast in RAM ? DebianDog 64 will do it !
SOS sent on facebook Puppy, help from Amiral Nilson (Morales) could arrive soon on the forum.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2016, 14:09    Post subject:  

Hi Dan,

Quote:
Seems to work and I am able to log in as root or as puppy. There was nothing in the menu though and no *.desktop file in /usr/shared/applications.


I understand you mean there's nothing in the menu to enable slim or something?

Quote:
edit again: When you go to console by typing "exit" in the user name, it sends you to the console logged in as root (which kind of defeats the purpose of locking it down). To fix that, simply change the default autologin to puppy as explained here:


Thanks, didn't know about "exit"

Probably for what you want it's best to disable autologin in /etc/inittab, change this:
Code:
1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f root tty6 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
#1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1

To:
Code:
#1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f root tty6 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1


And then if you want autologin edit /etc/slim.conf e.g.:
default_user puppy
and
auto_login yes

Fred

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2016, 14:29    Post subject:  

Hi Pelo,

This thread is for DebianDog - Jessie 64-bit, not for Stretch.
Sorry for possibly misleading anyone by sharing a experimental Stretch version at some point.
It's Jessie I will maintain here, so let's focus on that.

Quote:
i was decided to take a glance at the hungarian version, but 'nothing in the menu" makes it useless,


There is no hungarian version.
You might have understood 'nothing in the menu" as: "the menu is empty", which is probably not what Dancytron meant.

Btw, I'm curious, did you even try it? Or you just like to write some comments here and there.

I'd suggest you better think before writing a reply otherwise people might not take you serious anymore.

Fred
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2016, 15:02    Post subject:  

My reply in red

fredx181 wrote:
Hi Dan,

Quote:
Seems to work and I am able to log in as root or as puppy. There was nothing in the menu though and no *.desktop file in /usr/shared/applications.




I understand you mean there's nothing in the menu to enable slim or something?

Yes, the instructions in the Jessie thread seemed to indicate there would be a menu entry to turn slim on and off. The version I used didn't have that.

Quote:
edit again: When you go to console by typing "exit" in the user name, it sends you to the console logged in as root (which kind of defeats the purpose of locking it down). To fix that, simply change the default autologin to puppy as explained here:


Thanks, didn't know about "exit"

Probably for what you want it's best to disable autologin in /etc/inittab, change this:
Code:
1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f root tty6 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
#1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1

To:
Code:
#1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f root tty6 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1


And then if you want autologin edit /etc/slim.conf e.g.:
default_user puppy
and
auto_login yes

Fred
Okay, I'll give that a try when I have a chance.
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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2016, 23:56    Post subject: But for users, Puppy is wonderful.  

I run Debiandog64 In virtual machine last Night. The problem with Porteus is no pupsaves (one pupsave by session).
If Puppy returns to Porteus, it's not a step forward, but backward.
Loading the distro is very long time, slow,
Black screen. I gave up.
What the advantage on Puppy ? Puppy is largely better. That's the reason why we use it..
That was just a try... Puppy is not difficult enough, for developers, that is the truth.
But for users, Puppy is wonderful.
ISO Used :
DebianDog64-Jessie-openbox-2016-03-20.iso: 185 M

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Mar 2016, 01:22    Post subject: Re: But for users, Puppy is wonderful.  

Pelo wrote:

That was just a try... Puppy is not difficult enough, for developers, that is the truth.
But for users, Puppy is wonderful.


I think it is more to do with what you are used to Pelo. My partner, who is qualified in accounting but not in any way a computer specialist, uses and likes DebianDog a lot (currently 32bit version). Puppy has its own way of doing things compared to most distributions, so from a developer's point of view there is actually a bit of a learning curve getting used to creating and handling dotpets. DebianDog, on the other hand, uses the well tried apt package manager, which has Synaptics GUI for those users who prefer not to use commandline. Puppy is easy enough to use, so is DebianDog - it is sometimes difficult to find and install larger programs on Puppy because no-one has created dotpet or dotpet is too old (even sometimes the case with small programs actually). DebianDog has advantage for users there - pretty much every program known is available just by point and click install - so not much for developers to do there actually...

Why DD64 didn't work on your virtual machine I couldn't say - but you should post more details if you truly want to see it working, which I'm sure it could.

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