As for manual boot setting up again its something that should be happening once every year or five with the occasional changed entry...see above
mike
I turned off my Windows machine today.
Too many operating systems..... rationalize = trim down what you have to something more manageable when you find what you really need....make one or 2 provide all of your needs...which I believe is where you are heading anyway.
As for manual boot setting up again its something that should be happening once every year or five with the occasional changed entry...see above
mike
As for manual boot setting up again its something that should be happening once every year or five with the occasional changed entry...see above
mike
Ahhh, ok, yes partly a valid point. On the main machine I haven't been doing any development or testing with any of the others in the past 3 or 4 weeks, since I made the push to get everything working under Slacko 5.7.0, but I've been doing a lot of copying from them, so am not ready to give them up.
The thing is that some of them took a lot of effort and have some neat creations, and having worked my way through 30+ distros in the past year trying to find something both efficient and reliable to replace windows vista with, there have been quite a few that got pretty close to the mark once tuned sufficiently. In some cases they are just tuned/slimmed down versions of things you can just install, and in quite a few others, they are each the result of a week or two of effort replacing or creating a different desktop for some base or another. For example, Manjaro IceWM was pretty good, as well as Manjaro OpenRC with OpenBox/Tint2 and Static generated menus, or AntiX 14 Openbox/Tint2, or Crunchbang or WattOS, or Slitaz 5.0 cooker, or Slackel, or Slackel combined with Slitaz, which took some effort and is very good. Anyway, once you can't boot into them, it isn't long before you forget everything about them, and from there it gets much more difficult to reuse the code or tidbits created or tweaked. I am still taking pieces of different ones and incorporating them into my Slacko 5.7.0 as recently as yesterday, so I need to be able to get into them as long as I want that option available.
This being my main machine, going forward, it probably won't be used for new distro testing, but as you can imagine, I like to have my machines setup very similarly, so things can move from one to the other easily.
Yes, I've run the Vista laptop as my main system since 2009, and can see running this till 2020 if there aren't big changes that push me to some other path.
I'm currently tweaked to where the system itself is needing about 31 mb to run with pinboard on, and with 50 tabs of Chromium running it needs 1.9 gb of memory to do it, and it runs like greased lightning once the 50 tabs are loaded. My conky is getting close to what I want, and I need to do some hot key assignment and menu work, and get things to where I can duplicate it easily from a base CD install, so that once newer versions of the base work, I can implement them fairly easily, and yes, I'd still like to figure out how to get my old SCSI machines to work with it as well.
Here is a screenshot of my live machine with everything running on one desktop and a mem readout...
http://i.imgur.com/fgfiEjm.png?1
The thing is that some of them took a lot of effort and have some neat creations, and having worked my way through 30+ distros in the past year trying to find something both efficient and reliable to replace windows vista with, there have been quite a few that got pretty close to the mark once tuned sufficiently. In some cases they are just tuned/slimmed down versions of things you can just install, and in quite a few others, they are each the result of a week or two of effort replacing or creating a different desktop for some base or another. For example, Manjaro IceWM was pretty good, as well as Manjaro OpenRC with OpenBox/Tint2 and Static generated menus, or AntiX 14 Openbox/Tint2, or Crunchbang or WattOS, or Slitaz 5.0 cooker, or Slackel, or Slackel combined with Slitaz, which took some effort and is very good. Anyway, once you can't boot into them, it isn't long before you forget everything about them, and from there it gets much more difficult to reuse the code or tidbits created or tweaked. I am still taking pieces of different ones and incorporating them into my Slacko 5.7.0 as recently as yesterday, so I need to be able to get into them as long as I want that option available.
This being my main machine, going forward, it probably won't be used for new distro testing, but as you can imagine, I like to have my machines setup very similarly, so things can move from one to the other easily.
Yes, I've run the Vista laptop as my main system since 2009, and can see running this till 2020 if there aren't big changes that push me to some other path.
I'm currently tweaked to where the system itself is needing about 31 mb to run with pinboard on, and with 50 tabs of Chromium running it needs 1.9 gb of memory to do it, and it runs like greased lightning once the 50 tabs are loaded. My conky is getting close to what I want, and I need to do some hot key assignment and menu work, and get things to where I can duplicate it easily from a base CD install, so that once newer versions of the base work, I can implement them fairly easily, and yes, I'd still like to figure out how to get my old SCSI machines to work with it as well.
Here is a screenshot of my live machine with everything running on one desktop and a mem readout...
http://i.imgur.com/fgfiEjm.png?1
I won't ask what the 50 tabs are for
4 machines here... all have similar setups so as you say easy to apply changes all round.
Using slax base is handy as I just include modules to suit each user/machine. Modularity does make life easier. Shame puppy's ways are a bit clumsy in that regard.
Another thing is to try and keep windows and linux software the same where possible... helps familiarity.... or course there are things that only work or work well on windows and vice versa...otherwise why dual boot.
512MB ram on here plus swap so keep things a little more conservative...1GB on 2 machines does give a little more leg room and easy loading everything to ram.
Though its either windows or slax...there are a few other frugals on each just for ...well fun and experimentation.
to a simple life eh
mike
4 machines here... all have similar setups so as you say easy to apply changes all round.
Using slax base is handy as I just include modules to suit each user/machine. Modularity does make life easier. Shame puppy's ways are a bit clumsy in that regard.
Another thing is to try and keep windows and linux software the same where possible... helps familiarity.... or course there are things that only work or work well on windows and vice versa...otherwise why dual boot.
512MB ram on here plus swap so keep things a little more conservative...1GB on 2 machines does give a little more leg room and easy loading everything to ram.
Though its either windows or slax...there are a few other frugals on each just for ...well fun and experimentation.
to a simple life eh
mike
Restored to other PC, trying to chroot on it and installl
I used gparted to copy my /dev/sdb5 partition that has slacko pup 5.7.0 with the slitaz 3.10.62 kernel to a partition on a flash drive. I then booted my otherr PC with the slacko 5.7.0 cd and used gparted to copy the backed up system to a matching sized partition on that machine at /dev/sda9. I then did a ctrl-alt-bksp to get back out of X to the black console screen # sign .
Then I did
Everything seems to run, but it doesn't include /dev/sda9 as one of the partitions to try to boot.
Any guess what I might have done wrong or what to check?
Thanks
BobC
Then I did
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cd /mnt
mkdir sda9
cd /mnt/sda9
mount -t proc proc /mnt/sda9/proc
mount -t sysfs sys /mnt/sda9/sys
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/sda9/dev
mount -t devpts pts /mnt/sda9/dev/pts/
chroot /mnt/sda9
grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
update-grub
exit
exit
Any guess what I might have done wrong or what to check?
Thanks
BobC
Ted, thanks for the reply. There is no Windows partition at all on the machine I restored to. I do have Vista and Win7 on the initial partitions on other machines, but not this one, and actually none have been booted to Windows yet this year I don't think.Ted Dog wrote:Grub4dos on orginal and regular grub on last post? Also which version of windows? Win 8 and beyond has a well hidden break in hardrive for the super spy boot stuff.sorry do not know the real name for that 2 to 300 M spot on harddrive, but it does confuse most older versions of bootloaders.
I am using Grub 2.0, not Grub4dos or the legacy Grub 0.97
What I did above worked on my main laptop that has Vista on its main drive, but the update-grub isn't finding the Slacko Pup 5.7.0 that I restored to /dev/sda9 and I don't understand why it isn't finding it. It doesn't add it to the boot menu.
I think I see what happened
SDA5 on the machine I restored to also has Slacko 5.7.0 on it, so Grub got confused. In the boot file you see on the screen, it has the block id of the restored drive on the SDA5 entry and no entry for SDA9.
A recently found bug in Grub4dos config.
If you run Grub4dos config, in a Puppy that is a full install.
It will not give you a working boot menu.
Grub4dos config works OK if you run it in a Puppy that is a frugal install, live CD, or live USB flash.
The fix is here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 269#890269
If you like Slacko Puppy.
Slacko 5.7 is lacking many of the recent improvements.
Slacko 6.3.0 has many improvements, bug fixes, and tweaks.
http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
If you run Grub4dos config, in a Puppy that is a full install.
It will not give you a working boot menu.
Grub4dos config works OK if you run it in a Puppy that is a frugal install, live CD, or live USB flash.
The fix is here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 269#890269
If you like Slacko Puppy.
Slacko 5.7 is lacking many of the recent improvements.
Slacko 6.3.0 has many improvements, bug fixes, and tweaks.
http://slacko.eezy.xyz/index.php
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
I'll have to take a look at the 6.3.0. I have been so busy working lately that I hadn't noticed that it came out.
The 5.9.3 didn't ever work (couldn't get it installed) for me, and 5.7.0 did, so I just stuck with it.
I do full installs. Maybe I shouldn't. I added a lot of games to mine as well as a number of tweaks, like the conky.
I forget why I was afraid to use Grub4dos. I think I was afraid it wouldn't handle all the different windows and linux distro partitions I have, so when I installed Puppy, I left Manjaro in charge of the boot, because it had Grub 2, which did pretty well, and was otherwise stable as well. I was happy to get Grub 2 working with the Puppy thought because I don't use or boot the Manjaro much. I'll have to try the newer Grub4dos on a sacrificial machine to see if it will work with what I have loaded.
I use the machine almost exclusively for web based things like email, or playing games, and it has been doing well at that until recently, but I suspect the browser script errors and crashes (with both firefox and chromium) are due to flashplayer problems. I had intended to use wine to run some windows apps and games that I have, but never got any working.
Longer term, I guess I probably should give up and find a distro that is supported, at least browser wise, because fixing those kind of problems is beyond my abilities.
Thanks for letting me know about 6.3.0 and the Grub4dos fix.
The 5.9.3 didn't ever work (couldn't get it installed) for me, and 5.7.0 did, so I just stuck with it.
I do full installs. Maybe I shouldn't. I added a lot of games to mine as well as a number of tweaks, like the conky.
I forget why I was afraid to use Grub4dos. I think I was afraid it wouldn't handle all the different windows and linux distro partitions I have, so when I installed Puppy, I left Manjaro in charge of the boot, because it had Grub 2, which did pretty well, and was otherwise stable as well. I was happy to get Grub 2 working with the Puppy thought because I don't use or boot the Manjaro much. I'll have to try the newer Grub4dos on a sacrificial machine to see if it will work with what I have loaded.
I use the machine almost exclusively for web based things like email, or playing games, and it has been doing well at that until recently, but I suspect the browser script errors and crashes (with both firefox and chromium) are due to flashplayer problems. I had intended to use wine to run some windows apps and games that I have, but never got any working.
Longer term, I guess I probably should give up and find a distro that is supported, at least browser wise, because fixing those kind of problems is beyond my abilities.
Thanks for letting me know about 6.3.0 and the Grub4dos fix.