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Quirky Xerus 8.3 for x86_64, released July 29, 2017
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 00:08    Post subject:  Quirky Xerus 8.3 for x86_64, released July 29, 2017
Subject description: Binary compatibility with Ubuntu 16.04.2 Xenial Xerus 64-bit
 

2017-07-29: Xerus64 8.3 final released
Announcement and download links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00630

Forum feedback starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=962279#962279

2017-07-19: xerus x86_64 8.2 final released
Announcement and download links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00609

Forum feedback for 8.2 starts here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=961202#961202

2017-07-13: Xerus x86_64 8.1.94
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00593

Feedback starts here in this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=960658#960658

2017-01-13: Xerus x86_64 8.1.6
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00496

Feedback starts on page 25 of this forum thread:
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2016-12-25: Xerus 8.1.5
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00482

Feedback starts on page 21 of this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=936918#936918

2016-04-21: Xerus 8.0 final
Announcement and links:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00344

Forum feedback starts on page 8:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=106460&start=105

7.90 beta
There doesn't seem to be much wrong with it, but thought I would upload this beta, probably do 8.0, the final, about 21st of April.

Download from here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-7.90/

Not yet at Nluug, but the files should turn up here sometime:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/

Readme file:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-7.90/readme-quirky-xerus-7.90.htm

I have found some bugs.
One of them is in BluePup, my bluetooth management GUI. When you bring it up, either from menu, click on the icon in tray, or run "bluepup" in a terminal, the "SCAN & PAIR" button needs an adjustment -- click the "edit" button alongside it and change the timeout for "power on" from "10" to "30" (that will be 5 seconds to 15 seconds).

One observation: I reported this on my blog. A USB3 Flash stick is much faster than a USB2 Flash stick, even in a USB2 socket!
So, to enhance the experience even if your PC only has USB2 sockets, use a USB3 Flash drive.

If you want to know what is new and interesting in Quirky Xerus, read through my blog:
http://barryk.org/news/?viewCat=Linux

Anyway, if anyone wants to play with Quirky Xerus, go for it!

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:03    Post subject:  

Will there be an .iso?
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:30    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

my old usb stick is only 2GB (LOL). Can you please make an iso version ?
(I notice fdisk shows a 512Mb "EFI System" partition to boot ?)

You said busybox was buggy, but I use it and replaced all in /bin and /sbin...So what's the problem with "tr" , buggy or missing feature ?

Notice in ppm :
grep: unrecognized option `--file=
busybox uses "grep -f FILE" instead

Did you solve the no xorg.conf bug ? I did it with minimal xorg.conf

Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

I also replaced seamonkey with firefox (matter of taste, but also easier to compile and many sites accept it better than seamonkey for compatibility, etc). I am using the compiled version of firefox, with automatic updates.

Cheers

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 03:31    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Will there be an .iso?
you beat me to it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:27    Post subject:  

Bug fix. Filesystem check at bootup was missing libf2fs.so.0.

Actually, I fixed that before, but the bug came back. That was because I replaced f2fs-tools DEB with my own compiled PET, and the location of the libs became /lib/libf2fs.so*

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:32    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
You said busybox was buggy, but I use it and replaced all in /bin and /sbin...So what's the problem with "tr" , buggy or missing feature ?


Busybox has lots of applets that are missing features. Typically, it is source package compile scripts that expect the full versions of utilities.

In the case of 'tr', I gave the wrong results when I used octal numbers. For example "\20" is an octal number.
I was using a range of octal numbers, something like "[\40-\125]", It output the wrong results, but not even an error message, just the wrong output.
The full 'tr' works great.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:43    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
Notice in ppm :
grep: unrecognized option `--file=
busybox uses "grep -f FILE" instead


Quirky uses the full 'grep'. This is another case, the reason I don't recall, where I don't use the applet.

But, if the Busybox grep won't accept the full commandline options, that is enough reason not to use it.

Busybox is one of those utilities very widely used, and it has to work right in all circumstances.

My choices are the outcome of compiling hundreds of source packages and using all kinds of scripts.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 04:44    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.


i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:15    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

why ? you are wrong...mdev is very good. Works perfectly, extremly fast, takes only 2 lines in sysinit. No udev, no bug, no rules, nothing..Udev too complicated, too buggy, too slow, too big.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:20    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
Quirky uses the full 'grep'. This is another case, the reason I don't recall, where I don't use the applet.
But, if the Busybox grep won't accept the full commandline options, that is enough reason not to use it.
Busybox is one of those utilities very widely used, and it has to work right in all circumstances.
My choices are the outcome of compiling hundreds of source packages and using all kinds of scripts.

ok I see. But it's because busybox uses minimal options and not "long" options.
But busybox doesnt aim to replace 100% all utilities, only the most used options.
Actually, I wish the scripts and the compiling stuff would adapt to busybox, because it's very very standard and very efficient and light and used in embedded systems etc. So it's not only busybox which has to adapt, but others have to make efforts too, otherwise, it would be too easy and nobody would do anything.
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 06:47    Post subject:  

Hi Barry,

thank you a lot for the great work you're doing!

I'm trying quirky xerus 7.90 from a 16gb usb key on my asus e200ha.

Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't work (it did with ubuntu 16.04 beta).

Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thank you very much in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 07:04    Post subject:  

BarryK wrote:
In the case of 'tr', I gave the wrong results when I used octal numbers. For example "\20" is an octal number.
I was using a range of octal numbers, something like "[\40-\125]", It output the wrong results, but not even an error message, just the wrong output.
The full 'tr' works great.

Bugzilla for reporting bugs in busybox
https://bugs.busybox.net/
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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 09:36    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
BarryK wrote:
linuxcbon wrote:
Did you try minimal busybox mdev ? I use it everyday.

i looked at it sometime ago, not interested.

why ? you are wrong...mdev is very good. Works perfectly, extremly fast, takes only 2 lines in sysinit. No udev, no bug, no rules, nothing..Udev too complicated, too buggy, too slow, too big.


Udev is needed, for many reasons.

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mda wrote:
Hi Barry,

thank you a lot for the great work you're doing!

I'm trying quirky xerus 7.90 from a 16gb usb key on my asus e200ha.

Unfortunately, the touchpad doesn't work (it did with ubuntu 16.04 beta).

Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thank you very much in advance!


I have an E200HA also!

I thought that the touchpad was working. Hmmm, maybe I changed something that broke it. I have been recompiling the kernel many times, trying different config options.
I will investigate.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2016, 09:39    Post subject:  

For anyone who doesn't have a 8GB or bigger Flash stick, I have uploaded a 4GB image file.
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