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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 13532 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Mon 06 Jun 2016, 15:24 Post subject:
I promise medieval tortures to anyone snobbing CLI Subject description: in my presence !!! |
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Hello all.
Please see the script and the picture here.
It's still a draft, but can any GUI top THAT for conciseness and efficiency?
Hopefully I'm opening a debate, not a can of worms!!!
Any intelligent feedback is welcome!
BFN.
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tallboy

Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 1149 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 15:11 Post subject:
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Uuh, I don't read french, and I don't know what CLI is.
Does that qualify for poking with red-hot irons, or just a light spanking?
tallboy
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 13532 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 16:00 Post subject:
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tallboy wrote: | Uuh, I don't read french, and I don't know what CLI is.
Does that qualify for poking with red-hot irons, or just a light spanking?
tallboy | Hi tallboy.
Good to see you are still around!
CLI means "Command Line Interface". GUI means "Graphic User Interface".
You don't read French, but you can see the result in the screen captures, no?
I started this thread because the urxvt is so evolved now that it can incorporate
pictures, shading and fading. We are now very-very far from the ancient black
console with white writing. AFAIK the GUI techniques CANNOT incorporate pictures,
shading and fading.
Anyone snubbing or defaming the new CLI possibilities should be tortured until he
or she recognizes the truth!
Poking with red-hot irons and spanking are ok, but I was thinking also of the water-
drop for days and days or the stretch-your-arms-and-legs-to-the-limit tortures -- even
whipping. Not for you, of course. You're an intelligent person.
But anything to bring "those people" to see the light, really. Perhaps a forced
Bash-101 or urxvt-101 course, too.
BFN.
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Sailor Enceladus
Joined: 22 Feb 2016 Posts: 1551
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 16:01 Post subject:
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I think having images is not CLI! You must first convert to ASCII image background at least.
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 13532 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 16:09 Post subject:
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@Sailor Enceladus: Ha-ha. Very un-funny.
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Robert123
Joined: 20 May 2016 Posts: 373 Location: Pacific
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 02:00 Post subject:
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Hello Musher,
I agree with your thoughts about Cli there are some cool programs that are Cli like Ceni, Moc, MC, mpv etc
Check out Linux BBQ for Cli based fun.
http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/search.php?search_id=unreadposts
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tallboy

Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 1149 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 06:09 Post subject:
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Musher0 wrote: | Good to see you are still around! |
Thank you for the kind words, Musher0. I have had too many things going on at the same time, and all of them have suffered!
I have only old PCs, so I still use my old LupuPlus 5.2.8.005-1. I have not used the latest versions of any CLI (I wondered if it was some new Common Lisp Interpretation... ), but I realize that I have to be more active in search of new hardware, and probably a new Puppy to get a grasp on the latest developments. I started using Linux with a b/w xterm as my main tool, but they were very fancy as I had several desktops with Xterms with different colored frames to separate their tasks.
Jeez, that last sentence suddenly made me feel OLD!
BTW, Common Lisp is sadly underrated, I have played with SBCL for some time. (Steel Banks Common Lisp)
tallboy
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Burn_IT

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 3399 Location: Tamworth UK
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 09:14 Post subject:
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CLI died in the real world when the 3270 screen was invented.
The last time I used it (thank god) was about 35 years ago when I was on call and had to use a Teletype to dial into work computers.
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 13532 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 21:32 Post subject:
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Hello all.
Someone (I'll respect his anonymity) has sent me these absolute words of wisdom
through PM: Quote: | Ever since the Apple Mac was introduced, and people starting touting
point-and-click as the only way to go, I have been asking:
"Why did man invent language, with all its complex rules for syntax,
conjugations, declensions, etc?"
Because it's MORE EFFICIENT THAN pointing-and-grunting, that's why! | That's exactly the way I feel!
BFN.
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Burn_IT

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 3399 Location: Tamworth UK
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Posted: Thu 09 Jun 2016, 06:40 Post subject:
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Which reminds me that the time I first saw a Mac was in the office and it (seemingly) was only used to play one game where you had the use the mouse to navigate an object around the screen avoiding all sort of objects and into a goal.
The satisfying part was the sound effects especially the orgasmic sounding sigh when you got home.
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Pete

Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 675
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Posted: Thu 09 Jun 2016, 07:36 Post subject:
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@musher0
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Ever since the Apple Mac was introduced, and people starting touting
point-and-click as the only way to go, I have been asking:
"Why did man invent language, with all its complex rules for syntax,
conjugations, declensions, etc?"
Because it's MORE EFFICIENT THAN pointing-and-grunting, that's why!
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An absolute gem, love it.
Of course there are times when simply "pointing-and-grunting" is sufficient and more efficient,
but I for one would be lost without the CLI.
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learnhow2code
Joined: 12 Jun 2016 Posts: 1015
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Posted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 01:03 Post subject:
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Pete wrote: | Of course there are times when simply "pointing-and-grunting" is sufficient and more efficient, |
this is definitely true. its a matter of the best tool for the job: 9/10 times its a tui or cli, but 5-10% is a good estimate of how often you cant do without graphics (i wouldnt love this forum in elinks, ymmv.)
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Pete

Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 675
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Posted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 06:19 Post subject:
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learnhow2code wrote: | .......i wouldnt love this forum in elinks.... |
Where is your sense of adventure?
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learnhow2code
Joined: 12 Jun 2016 Posts: 1015
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Posted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 10:32 Post subject:
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Pete wrote: | Where is your sense of adventure?  |
in writing code! ive used elinks a lot-- even as a tui interface for cgi scripts, but forum software is usually designed without regard for it. im sure it works.
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Pete

Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 675
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Posted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 10:40 Post subject:
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Of course I was only kidding about using it for forums but like your idea of using elinks to test cgi scripts.
In fact for data collection the cli is king.
Wget, grep and elinks are great for this without the complications and limitations of the gui.
There is of course the other benefit of cli progs, very few dependencies (compared to gui) and will work across distros or are very easy to compile.
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