A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy

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Re: PPM : Do it yourself

#141 Post by jpeps »

Pelo wrote:In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.
You could just run ldd on the exec and get what you need. I also use PetCheck to eliminate installation of duplicate files.

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Hooking up a CAD-CRT to Puppy Precise 5.7.1 [Solved]

#142 Post by FeodorF »

Little story right here.

I have an old CAD CRT (top quality, crystal clear picture) it can display up to 1280x1024x32bit. I tried to get it to work with the Puppy Precise 5.7.1 live CD. The problem occurred right after reboot - running into a black screen with blinking cursor. I had done a frugal install, but it didn't work.

The pupsave file was saved on a USB stick (8GB, FAT32). Using an LED LCD instead of the CRT made a difference - that worked.

After two days I remembered what forum member 'rcrsn51' had said about Barry's marker file for screen detection. 'It needs a partition with Linux id to work properly.'

Yeah! That's what I did today - formated the 8GB USB stick to 'ext3'. (Boy, nobody is perfect!)

...works great now!...

Greetings,
Feodor

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Puppy Linux Window's Installer

#143 Post by mikeslr »

Hi All,

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I apologize if it's been mentioned before. But as this thread is a "sticky" and one of the first places a beginner will look for information regarding installing Puppy, I thought it to be a good place to provide a link to Shinobar's Puppy Linux Window Installer. Essentially, it's a program you run under windows --95 thru Windows 8, but see the limitation spelled out in the link-- which will install Puppies to your computer and enable you to dual boot both the installed Puppy and your Window OS.http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 720#462720. Only a few versions of Puppy come in that format. But once one is installed, you can follow the instructions on the following links to add other Puppies and, if you desire, delete Windows (and your initial Puppy) from your hard drives.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 842#762842

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 157#710157

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#144 Post by EdgarC »

Cant dual boot windows 8 and puppy.

Disabled secure boot and uefi, but still does not work.

What to do?

It keep telling me it did not find a file(which is present, but it like it cant see the the drive)

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f2fs for internal partition ssd drive

#145 Post by Yelisey »

How can I do bootable Puppy with f2fs?

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#146 Post by starhawk »

Yelisey, please start a separate thread in Beginner's Help for your issue.

EdgarC, I don't know if you're still around and having issues -- but if you are, same deal, please start a new thread.

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To get Puppy runnng from a sd-card

#147 Post by fossiili »

Gentlemen,

I have an EeePC701 and it's ssd-disk is broken. I managed to get it running starting from usb-flash with Knoppix installation. But I would prefer to get Puppy Linux and also to get Puppy runnng from a sd-card.

I have along time ago used temporary Puppy Linux from cd, when it was possible to load Puppy to memory. This time I wanted it to start from sd-card becouse the usb-dongle is not nice to have sticked to the side of EeePC. I have enlarged the EeePC:s memory to 2 Gb so it will work well with Puppy.

There seems to be a lot of different versions of Puppy and may be Quirky Unicorn 6.2 could do. And a possibility to install Puppy to sd-card, some discussion of that I have noticed. But I have some difficulties to follow orfind the origin of the discussion.

I have already downloaded devx_tahr_6.0.2.sfs and tested it by md5sum. So please, could you give me advice how to proceed. Or should I use some other version of Puppy? I have some old PC's and installed Linux-distributions on them and also WindowsXP and Windows7.

Some help I need, I'm not young and smart (80 years) :roll:

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#148 Post by Fossil »

As one Fossil to another - Hi! :lol: Have you seen this thread? http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97380

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#149 Post by smokey01 »

If you follow the directions in this video you should be able to boot from a SD card. I have in the past.
http://smokey01.com/videos/Puppy_on_Flash.mpeg

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Downloaded devx_tahr_6.0.2.sfs, how to proceed with sfs-file

#150 Post by fossiili »

Thank you both for the information given. But I have two basic questions before I can proceed:

1. I have used an iso-file when installing Linux-distributions. Ones an other type of file to get a usb-flash installation. What shall I do with sfs-files :?:

2. Or would you recommend me to use some other version of Puppy than "Barry's Quirky Unicorn 6.2" :roll:

If I find any modern Pyppy version I can handle, I prepare a Puppy cd. I have a separate movable cd/dvd-drive (burner) which I can easily connect to my EeePC and proceed to install Puppy on "hard disk", in this case to a sd-card ready in the slot of the EeePC.

So, some kind of answer to my questions 1. or 2. or any opinion or hint, but no video's please, I have a slow line and can not follow the English spoken in them :oops:

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Re: Downloaded devx_tahr_6.0.2.sfs, how to proceed with sfs-file

#151 Post by RetroTechGuy »

fossiili wrote:Thank you both for the information given. But I have two basic questions before I can proceed:

1. I have used an iso-file when installing Linux-distributions. Ones an other type of file to get a usb-flash installation. What shall I do with sfs-files :?:
SFS files go with the rest of the boot files. If they are additional, you will need to add them (I'm assuming that you are doing a frugal install). Bootmanager will let you add and remove SFS toolboxes,

Since my eee didn't have a CD drive, I plugged my SD card into a SD/USB adapter, and installed on a different machine, then plugged it in.

I have also done the install using an internal CD drive, plugged into a ISE/USB adapter (plug the DC drive into the USB and boot from that drive). I have one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 812119152&

On my 900eee, you can only boot from the right side USB, and I have also used a bootable USB thumb drive, and then installed onto the SD card.
2. Or would you recommend me to use some other version of Puppy than "Barry's Quirky Unicorn 6.2" :roll:

If I find any modern Pyppy version I can handle, I prepare a Puppy cd. I have a separate movable cd/dvd-drive (burner) which I can easily connect to my EeePC and proceed to install Puppy on "hard disk", in this case to a sd-card ready in the slot of the EeePC.

So, some kind of answer to my questions 1. or 2. or any opinion or hint, but no video's please, I have a slow line and can not follow the English spoken in them :oops:
There is another discussion of the 701eee here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97380

I have a 900eee (1GB RAM), and have run 5.28 on it, loading from the SD card in the side... And on low memory machines, have run LupuMini (333MHz, 256MB RAM). It looks like you have 2GB RAM, which is plenty.

Current 5.28 family:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=90461

My newer machines are being upgraded to LupuSuper1.
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58615]Add swapfile[/url]
[url=http://wellminded.net63.net/]WellMinded Search[/url]
[url=http://puppylinux.us/psearch.html]PuppyLinux.US Search[/url]

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#152 Post by fossiili »

Now I understand more than when starting to use Puppy again. I found an iso-file for Puppy 6.2.1.91 it's Quirky Release by Barry.

I used the cd starting one of the newest of my computers. That Puppy works well, but:
- I think I have read that Quirky needs a x86_64 processor what my old Eee701 do not have
- I could not find any method to install Quirky permanently for ex. on hard disk, it probably is possible, but not for me :oops:

But Puppy Tahr 6.0.2. PAE or nonPAE versions seems to be easier for me to use. I am now running it and writing this text. And the best thing is that I have found from this living Puppy from Install-icon the method to install Puppy to some media. That was lacking from the version Quirky, for reason I do not understand :?:

So I think I can proceed now :arrow:

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#153 Post by tigersong »

Almost done following the Lin'n'Win instructions. Too bad there's not much chance of more Puppies being added.

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Note to Moderators & rcrsn51

#154 Post by mikeslr »

This thread is a sticky, among the first posts intended to help beginners.

rcrsn51 started it 7 years ago, long before Windows boxes were sold with Windows 7 installed, before Windows boxes came with Windows 8.1's travesty called "secure boot", before shinobar posted his How to "Keep your savefile slim and healthy" and before jpep's posted his How to "Remove automatic pupsave for frugal installs."

The thread still contains valuable information. But now Beginners may have to read through 11 pages of posts, and probably read thru the threads resulting from shinobar's and jpep's posts. And, frankly, many will also need to be aware of the instructions Barry K provided regarding "secure boot".

Isn't it time for the thread to be edited?

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Windows 8/8.1 Prequel to Installing Puppy

#155 Post by mikeslr »

Hi All,

If your computer came with Windows 8 or 8.1, before it will recognize Puppy Linux as a bootable OS you'll have to take some steps to prepare it.

Barry Kauler discusses what you have to do to boot Quirky. Except for the last part of the post, which deals specifically with using Quirky's installer, everything he wrote pertains to booting any Pup. http://bkhome.org/quirky/uefi.htm.

For an alternate How To with Pictures, follow the links on this post.http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 159#858159

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Pelo

Puppy maker provides his tutorial (non english versions)

#156 Post by Pelo »

What i can say here, is that more and more each (professionnal) Puppy maker provides his tutorial
France :
Triton 5.7.3
Toutou 4.3.1 and 436 (developers are not wireless connected, so information about connection is... poor, poor is the word, but you can ask for help inf the francophone section of this forum.
Slaxen : a try to do a successful Toutou based on Slacko 5.9.3 : Tuto is included in the Slaxen, written with notecase.
Spane : they are the best, really. Not only Tutorials are fully documented and updated, but they are so nice. It would be worth to British Puppies to translate them.They have their own forum and several Facebook sites, and many videos for help on You Tube.
Italian : Not so pro as spanish, but they exist.
Tutorial Pupjibaro You Tube, easy to understand by our Puppy Lovers from South America, even by french and italian citizen. Spoken explanations fit the numerous screens describing step by step installation.
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Installing Puppy

#157 Post by peterw »

Hi kylerickards

Slacko Puppy is a very good distro using Slackware files and not Ubuntu ones. I think you need to give us a bit more information if we are to help you. Hardware information and more details on the steps you have taken so far. I am guessing that you are trying to do a full or frugal install to the wiped hard drive? I suspect that you have been able to boot Slacko and used the installation process? When you have done this you need to install a boot loader. I like to use grub4dos since it works for both full install and frugal installs: it is in the menu near gparted if that is what you used to format the hard drive. grug4dos is easy to use and for a first use just go with the default values.

peterw

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Re: Installing Puppy

#158 Post by kylerickards »

peterw wrote:Hi kylerickards

Slacko Puppy is a very good distro using Slackware files and not Ubuntu ones. I think you need to give us a bit more information if we are to help you. Hardware information and more details on the steps you have taken so far. I am guessing that you are trying to do a full or frugal install to the wiped hard drive? I suspect that you have been able to boot Slacko and used the installation process? When you have done this you need to install a boot loader. I like to use grub4dos since it works for both full install and frugal installs: it is in the menu near gparted if that is what you used to format the hard drive. grug4dos is easy to use and for a first use just go with the default values.

peterw
Thanks Peter. I have now got TahrPup on but I cannot get the wifi driver working :(

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wifi on Tahr

#159 Post by peterw »

Hi kylerickards

Just to make things clear, you are using an Ubuntu compatible distro with Tahr. I say this because in an earlier post you mentioned Slacko. I have an installation of Tahr64 and will use that as my reference although most Puppy's will be similar. There are various network managers used by different versions of Puppy.

Take the following steps:

1. Go Menu/Setup/Internet Connection Wizard
and up will pop a gui. On the "Connect to Internet by" box select "Wired or wireless LAN" and up will pop another gui giving you 3 options for a network manager: "Simple Network Setup", "Frisbee" and "Network Wizard".

2. You can go with any of these and follow your nose. Explore which ones works for you. Network Wizard is the oldest of the three and if you use that you have to take a few extra steps to get a connection, involving scanning for wifi ssid and selecting which type of security it is and saving details, etc.

3. However, if you are still having problems, we need to see what wifi card you have in your laptop and know that it is recognised by Tahr so go with "Network Wizard" and up will pop another gui listing the network interfaces Tahr knows about. Take a note of the wireless interface devices and descriptions and tell what they are. Also tell us what type of security you are using WPA2?

peterw

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Re: wifi on Tahr

#160 Post by kylerickards »

peterw wrote:Hi kylerickards

Just to make things clear, you are using an Ubuntu compatible distro with Tahr. I say this because in an earlier post you mentioned Slacko. I have an installation of Tahr64 and will use that as my reference although most Puppy's will be similar. There are various network managers used by different versions of Puppy.

Take the following steps:

1. Go Menu/Setup/Internet Connection Wizard
and up will pop a gui. On the "Connect to Internet by" box select "Wired or wireless LAN" and up will pop another gui giving you 3 options for a network manager: "Simple Network Setup", "Frisbee" and "Network Wizard".

2. You can go with any of these and follow your nose. Explore which ones works for you. Network Wizard is the oldest of the three and if you use that you have to take a few extra steps to get a connection, involving scanning for wifi ssid and selecting which type of security it is and saving details, etc.

3. However, if you are still having problems, we need to see what wifi card you have in your laptop and know that it is recognised by Tahr so go with "Network Wizard" and up will pop another gui listing the network interfaces Tahr knows about. Take a note of the wireless interface devices and descriptions and tell what they are. Also tell us what type of security you are using WPA2?

peterw
Thanks Peter.

I can't see wlan listed on any version of Puppy now, just the eth0 connection? I am using WPA2...

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