I promise medieval tortures to anyone snobbing CLI

[Pete]

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trying to think of a command name that starts with y? type "y" and hit tab twice. it will show you all the commands in your path that start with y.
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Nice one @learnhow2code

If you want to get a list of all the commands:

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compgen -c

or if you want to search for a certain keyword, lets use "print" as an example:

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compgen -c | grep "print"

Of course one could wrap this in a GTKdialog script and present it in a GUI, but it would still be using the CLI to get the data.
Plus one would be restricted by any limitations introduced in the GTKdialog script not having a specific option/functionality.

If one uses the CLI directly, none of the restrictions apply.

[musher0]

Hello gang.

Pete said:
> "If one uses the CLI directly, none of the restrictions apply."

I've been wondering forever what it is with most people:

• are they afraid that a cli window will devour them ?
  is it laziness?
  is is snobbery?
  is it plain prejudice, like "agism"? As in: if you use CLI, you're "old"?

The more I work with urxvt, the more I find that it outperforms anything that YAD, etc.,
have to offer as to versatility, colors, shading, choice of fonts, size of window, etc.

My 2¢. BFN.

[Pete]

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I've been wondering forever what it is with most people:

• are they afraid that a cli window will devour them ?
  is it laziness?
  is is snobbery?
  is it plain prejudice, like "agism"?

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IMHO it's a combination of laziness (of typing and I'm guilty too hence my use of LXTerminal instead) and
fear/lack of knowledge about the CLI.

BTW this is prevalent in both Linux and Windoze.

[Sailor Enceladus]

Hello gang.

Pete said:
> "If one uses the CLI directly, none of the restrictions apply."

I've been wondering forever what it is with most people:

• are they afraid that a cli window will devour them ?
  is it laziness?
  is is snobbery?
  is it plain prejudice, like "agism"? As in: if you use CLI, you're "old"?

The more I work with urxvt, the more I find that it outperforms anything that YAD, etc.,
have to offer as to versatility, colors, shading, choice of fonts, size of window, etc.

My 2¢. BFN.

I have a trackpoint on my laptop. Moving one finger to an icon and clicking on it is easy enough. Typing everything out, not so much. I use the CLI for things that aren't automated, like typing "diff -ru folder1 folder2" or "./configure --prefix=/usr" or whatever, then I go back to relaxing my hand on the trackpoint and mouse button to read silly threads like this one.

[learnhow2code]

I use the CLI for things that aren't automated, like typing "diff -ru folder1 folder2" or "./configure --prefix=/usr" or whatever, then I go back to relaxing my hand on the trackpoint and mouse buttons to read silly threads like this one.

youd think it would be easier to just tap the part of the screen (touchscreens are extremely inefficient for a number of things that provide better accuracy and feedback, but a monkey can use one easily) that has the thing you want on it.

the trick is getting the thing you want onto the screen to tap it.

when the web started out, it was full of links-- menus spread all over the screen, and there is still a lot of that.

but to get to them, you start by typing in an address or a search query, into google (or ddg, or some people actually use bing... which is surprising.) bookmarks are fine, the more you have the closer you will be to typing again. sure, you can do that in a gui. but the google search box is more like a command line than a gui, if you ask me.

this really isnt either/or. when i open gimp to do graphics, i know exactly why im using a gui.

i prefer a graphical browser over elinks much of the time. however, if i had to do everything in a browser, i would really hate it.

if i had to do everything in a term window, that would probably suck too. but take the term away and i will just use another os instead.

no one wants to go back to paging through menu after menu after menu of links like the early days of yahoo! even on a touch screen (5 pages of menus to do almost anything, it seems) that would be an obnoxious experience.

partly its subjective. but there are distinct advantages for each method of communication. thats what it is-- communicating with your computer, as well as others.

imagine if some person said "you know, f*** books, from now on im just going to communicate with pictures." hey, that works for some artists. you can get rich.

now imagine you work in a library, and someone comes in and says "books are stupid, i just want to watch youtube." (not just today, but as a lifestyle.)

some of the overzealous diatribes against the cli are similarly painful. but as i tried to hint, there arent a lot of true purists out there--

cli fans use guis, and gui fans use a command line all the time, but they dont normally realize theyre using one-- or that they actually prefer it for some tasks

[Pelo]

MPV not working in my Puduan. PPM devuan says already installed.. Grrrr
Robert123 told us Moc is better. So try MOC
Ok i unterstand the micro-society, back to computers IBM with blue screen
I prefer MPV, sure
Musher0 promises Medieval Tortures, Moc is the first one.
Listen 'rythms' techno music with Moc is worth than playing Mozart with an electric guitar

[rufwoof]

Pelo ... not for you then ...

htop (system monitor)
mc (file manager (and editor))
mocp (audio)
Rtorrent
lynx (web browser)
sc (spreadsheet)

all ncurses (cli, no gui needed).

[musher0]

Hi rufwoof.

So?

Medieval tortures for pelo ?

Yyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeesssssssss!

[hamoudoudou]

fried ? roasted ? medieval is awful.. a french kiss, perhaps..