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musher0

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 01:18    Post subject:  

Hi Lazy Puppy.

My sympathies for white on white... I'm really sorry. Puppus Dogfellow
had a similar comment somewhere above, IIRC.

What Gtk theme is that, in your screen capture? What I mean is:

If we look in /root/.gtkrc-2.0, on the 2nd line, we see what Gtk theme
is active.

Now a programming question:

Do you think it would be possible to go to line 5 of the gtkrc file of the
theme (for example: /usr/share/themes/Rusty_Sand-mod/gtk-2.0/gtkrc)

-- extract the first two parameters (fg and bg)

-- find a Color Scheme approximately contrasted to those colors

-- reverse them

-- store them in the Color file at /usr/local/share/MRUF/Color and

-- then the menu script uses those colors?

Hopefully, the result could be a MRUF menu script with proper contrasting
colors every time. Plus it would match the current GTK theme.

Is that the solution?

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 04:46    Post subject:  

Having just tried v 0.9.4

* The initial window showed (joke) as yellow text on a light background

* After fixing the colours Help did not show (pun) v 0.9.4

* All my ROX Speed Dials had been blanked out (i.e. reset and not funny).
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 06:01    Post subject:  

@ASD:
I'm sorry I forgot to announce it, I was tired and it escaped me. Sorry
about that, ASD, but one should always make back-ups of important files
like those...

@all:
-- I spent the night working on the contrast issue that Lazy Puppy has
brought up (and Puppus Dogfellow before him).

The solution I came up with (please see attached zip file) won't always
work, because about only 2/3'rds of GTK themes are structured for an
easy query. With some themes of the remaining 1/3rd, the letters will
have "natural" contrast and be readable anyway.

All in all, it's not that big an issue, I think. It may mean some poking and
probing with the suggested color schemes, but with some perseverance
and 2-3 minutes of patience, you'll certainly find a satisfying solution. If
you think all else has failed, follow the instructions in my reply to Lazy
Puppy above?

Please remember that this pango evolution by vovchik is as new to me as
it is to you. I may be ahead of the pack a bit, but I'm still poking and
probing myself with the aemenu-pango colors.

As an aside, it may be worth your while to download vovchik's work on
this and try his many examples of the pango color and font mark-up. Just
look for thread "Hacked aemenu" in the forum search engine, with
vovchik as author.

If you're really frustrated, try typing in console:
Code:
echo -e "red\nyellow" > /usr/local/share/MRUF/Color
or the reverse, or
Code:
echo -e "green\norange" > /usr/local/share/MRUF/Color
or some other contrasting colors, and then click on REFRESH in the
menu (this REFRESH is important).

~~~~~~~~~~
Anyway, a new version, 0.9.4.1, is attached. It incorporates:
-- a contrast fix test (see explanation in paragraph above) in response to
the complaints.

-- most of the variables are now "sourced" from their own file. It keeps
the main script skinny!

-- The "-daystart" setting in the < find > lines was more of a hindrance
than a helper, so I removed it.

As the name implies it's meant to include today in the search. Except that
at five past midnight it's useless, if you see what I mean. At that time of
day it actually prevents any finding. It starts to make sense and produce
results when you use it later in the day, say late afternoon or early
evening. So bye-bye "-daystart" parm.

-- 4 new color schemes, with really good contrast, I think. One combo has
very dark green and a tinted white, the other one has "midnight blue" and
"alice blue". There are now 30 color schemes to choose from for this
script, 15 "straight" and 15 "reverse".

This is a sign-off for me. It's been a long night. Luckily no work tomorrow.

TWYL.
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P.S. Attachment removed.
Please use version 0.9.5 from post further down.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 07:54    Post subject:  

My comments on v 0.9.4.1 are exactly as they were for v 0.9.4:

The display is unfixed; however, as you have added a footnote which does show - why not just forget the colours altogether.

The version number is still not updated.

All ROX Speed Dials are, yet again, reset. You still didn't announce that fact, but if you had announced it I would not have tried v 0.9.4.1
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:03    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
My comments on v 0.9.4.1 are exactly as they were for v 0.9.4:

The display is unfixed; however, as you have added a footnote which does show - why not just forget the colours altogether.

The version number is still not updated.

All ROX Speed Dials are, yet again, reset. You still didn't announce that fact, but if you had announced it I would not have tried v 0.9.4.1

Hey, ASD.

You don't like it? Don't use it. Or please spend two full weeks of your
time without pay creating your own history menu instead of shooting
down this one with so-so arguments.

This is a work in the making, ASD. AFAIK, no menu script like this --
independent of any window manager AND of any file manager -- exists
as of yet on Puppy to display the history of what the user has done
during his previous computer sessions. Even more so, considering this
menu is using an absolutely new mark-up system invented by still
another Puppy-ist. When other testers and I have properly finished with
this history system, it will be unique to Puppy.

I'm no Steve Jobs and no Nolan Bushnell to provide users with an
absolutely perfect product from the word go. (Actually, they didn't. In
fact they themselves issued countless versions before they thought their
apps were satisfactory.)

You don't like my including a pristine "groups.xml" in the pet archive?
There, I'm putting it out of the way. Again sorry for any inconvenience.
I had included one because many users -- unlike you -- do not know
how to create one. And because it can be considered a part of
the user's sessions history.

And I am certainly no deviner to know: "Ah, ASD is using this particular
GTK theme. Therefore I will provide him with a personalized pet archive
containing a pre-configured menu script that starts off with Color
Scheme X. That color scheme should go nicely with ASD's chosen GTK
theme. And then ASD won't give me a mouthful."

So the pango colors stay. It is your personal decision whether to invest
-- or not -- one or two minutes of your time in learning how to adapt
this menu to the GTK theme on your Puppy. As such your personal
decision is only that, a personal decision, and it is irrelevant to the
continuation of development.

Best regards.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:33    Post subject:  

Hello all.

Here is pet archive 0.9.4.1a -- amended in reply to remarks above.
I have decided that this would actually be the real 0.9.4.1 version:
the letter a is only there to avoid confusion and archive squishing.


The disputed pristine < Groups.xml > file is still there, but as file
< xml.Groups >. Rename it to its proper name if you need it. A little
note is included about it.

I've also hidden again the plain text entry at the bottom of the menu
-- that I use for debugging.

I apologize for any previous inconvenience.

BFN.
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P.S. Attachment removed.
Please use version 0.9.5 from post further down.
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 12:32    Post subject:  

I shall leave it to MochiMoppel, should he wish to comment on your adaptation of his excellent work on ROX Speed Dials.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 14:59    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
I shall leave it to MochiMoppel, should he wish to comment on
your adaptation of his excellent work on ROX Speed Dials.
Hello ASD.

As you can see, your attempt at hiding the words "your adaptation of"
in white type over white background has failed. That was a bit foxy of
you, wasn't it? Laughing

FYI: It is NOT my adaptation. It is his earlier version, here, which I
prefer for the purposes of this aemenu-pango menu script.

I prefer it over his final version
-- because of the wider format and
-- because you can edit it directly and introduce decimals for fine-tuning
and grouping of your sub-directories. The ROX-Filer < Groups.xml > file
does support decimal numbering, but MochiMoppei shuns it as "goofing".
IMO, his final version maims the decimal capacity and the capacity for
direct editing (the latter IIRC).
-- because I am presenting in this menu a different way of accessing the
GTK bookmarks, and I wish those to stay consistent with the presentation
of the other data. IMO, using MochiMoppei's final version would be out of
style in the context of this menu.

I have not altered this earlier script of MochiMoppei in any way. Please
check for yourself if you do not believe me.


FYI: In that previous version, MochiMoppei does not mention his author-
ship, nor his copyright, nor any publication licence. I mention his author-
ship because I know it is his work and it is simply the right thing to do.
Would have I done that if I had intended to steal his work from him?
** Be very careful with your innuendos, ASD. **

FYI: AFAIK, MochiMoppei has never forbidden the use of his earlier
version to anyone. It has been in public view for over two years (at the
time of this writing) on the thread above, available for anyone to copy,
paste and use during that time. Should he forbid it now, I am ready to
provide my own solution to display the directories in < Groups.xml > and
remove any mention of his talent in this script -- if that's what he wants.

Come to think of it, I may decide to remove any reference to Mochi-
Moppei's work in this script anyway because of the bad fuss people like
you are creating about it.

Best regards.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 15:41    Post subject:  

Hello all.

Hopefully, I have removed from this 0.9.5 version any cause for pettiness
or trolling. Because I have better things to do, I have no time for it.

The people who'll use this new version will, also hopefully, appreciate the
compliment and generosity that represents the use of another dev's work in
yours and the rightful mention of his/her talent and authorship.

Sincerely,

musher0
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 16:20    Post subject:  

Indubitably this will be seen as yet another petty comment, but v 0.9.5 displays an error and does not install here.

So that MochiMoppel and/or others may form an opinion of the previous two versions (with particular regard to ROX Speed Dials) those withdrawn attachments are reinstated below.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 19:39    Post subject:  

Hello all.

Please find attached version 0.9.5.1. Basically I found still more ways to
make the code more compact. Approx. 1.5 Ko were gained compared to
the 0.9.5 version.

Since none of those changes affect the user interface, no new screen
captures are provided.

The larger size of the pet archive is due to the use of gz, not xz,
compaction.

Constructive, not necessarily positive, comments about this version
are welcome, as always, to get this script closer to finalization.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 19:45    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
(...) v 0.9.5 displays an error and does not install here.(...)
Hello ASD,

Please provide us with the usual info provided in such cases about your
version of Puppy and your hardware (including monitor specs) so you can
help us help you. Also a screen shot or description of the error you
encountered would be required.

Best regards.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 20:21    Post subject:  

ASD wrote:
Indubitably this will be seen as yet another petty comment, (...)

So that MochiMoppel and/or others may form an opinion of the previous
two versions (with particular regard to ROX Speed Dials) those withdrawn
attachments are reinstated below.
ASD?

What game are you playing at here ?

Please provide proof that you are representing MochiMoppei in any shape
or form? In any case, I just PM'd him about your behavior. If you are just
a troll, we'll know.

You can throw suspicion around all you want, what we need is facts. I
trust that MochiMoppei will have the objective judgment to recognize them.

If you suspect that I have tampered with his code, stop throwing mud
around, do the responsible thing: do a diff on two columns of Mochi's file
I have bundled, comparing it with MochiMoppei's older original available in
his thread. Then publish it here. I have nothing to fear from such a
comparison, because I have not tampered with Mochi's file.

Of course, if you don't do a proper diff of those files and/or you do not
tell the truth, your innuendos will come back to haunt your own reputation.

~~~~~~~~~~
In the meantime... : please do hurry, yes, hurry, hurry, collect any and
all versions of this MRUF/MRUD script of mine prior to v. 0.9.4 in case I
erase them, because I started bundling MochiMoppei's older ROX-Groups
script with this MRUF/MRUD one quite some time before you joined this
discussion. Oh yeah, a really long time ago...

~~~~~~~~~~
BTW... This is completely unrelated, but you wouldn't happen to have a
goat, would you?

~~~~~~~~~~

Best regards.

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2016, 22:01    Post subject:  

ASD?

Your acronym means: Autistic Syndrome Disorder

Judging from your reactions here and on other threads:
you are an autistic person, yes?

Respectfully.

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2016, 01:21    Post subject:  

Hi folks.

Guess what's new?! Very Happy

Enjoy!
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