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oui

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 04:54    Post subject:  

Is the new ISO a way to Stretch or to SID?

Is it possible to remaster and hold it updated as ISO (*1 for the each daily actual SID version?

In this case I would find wrong to continue the discussion in this thread on the actual DEBIAN stable!

We already was in that situation a long time ago to be confronted to both Jessie and Stretch in the same thread...

I would be better to distinguish really well in the name of the thread:

DebianDog - old stable 32 bit

DebianDog - actual stable 32 bit

DebianDog - Debian candidate for new stable 32 bit

DebianDog - SID 32 bit (*2

depending of the real stuff!

(*1 = I recommand the Remaster Suite from Lazy Puppy's as it is so easy to rename correctly each part used in it (SID become fast not compatible to old SID stuff - remaster SID moment installation is not future extensibility but only for the use "as it is actually" and you need precision in giving names to your old stages of installation! The only one faculty not able in that very performant Remaster Suite is that it uses only one compressions mode and don't permit the other ones)

(*2 = probably the most interesting DebianDog if possible to create and maintain so...
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 06:41    Post subject:  

Hi oui !

Think you`re right ..........else there will be too much confusion .......and everyone is getting off track .
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 06:45    Post subject:  

Hi !
What i did ......installed grub4Dos with Synaptics .....(in Deb-Dog Jessie )
tried to apply Grub4Dos to an Usb-Stick ....but failed to work as it it used to do .

I blamed it on the Grub4Dos from the Debian Repos.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 14:58    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
Hi !
What i did ......installed grub4Dos with Synaptics .....(in Deb-Dog Jessie )
tried to apply Grub4Dos to an Usb-Stick ....but failed to work as it it used to do .

I blamed it on the Grub4Dos from the Debian Repos.


I noticed the same thing when I installed Grub4Dos from the Debian Repo's.

The grub4dos that is inside the Debian Dog installation file program works correctly (remember to change the directory names so they aren't the same as the installation on your hard drive or you'll screw up your save folder/file).
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 15:35    Post subject:  

So it`s correct to blame it on the Grub4Dos from the Repo.
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PostPosted: Wed 16 Nov 2016, 17:43    Post subject:  

Hi backi, oui,

backi wrote:
Hi !
What i did ......installed grub4Dos with Synaptics .....(in Deb-Dog Jessie )
tried to apply Grub4Dos to an Usb-Stick ....but failed to work as it it used to do .

I blamed it on the Grub4Dos from the Debian Repos


What exactly didn't work as expected?
For me it works, well.. not how I would like it finding DD installs, but it finds puppy installs.
Anyway I found a mistake I made, so uploaded new version grub4dosconfig_1.8.9b
Install with synaptic or "apt-get update && apt-get install grub4dosconfig"
Maybe the small fix makes the difference for you.

oui wrote:
Is the new ISO a way to Stretch or to SID?

Is it possible to remaster and hold it updated as ISO (*1 for the each daily actual SID version?

In this case I would find wrong to continue the discussion in this thread on the actual DEBIAN stable!


Hi oui, Depends what you mean with "new ISO" (indeed here begins the confusion Wink ) If you mean the Stretch ISO, well it is based on Stretch and can be easily upgraded to Sid (and make a remaster from that).
My intention was to make a preview of what might become the next stable DD next year (I admit it's very early, but I was curious about which problems possibly needed to overcome)
I agree with you it's better to keep this thread for DD Jessie stable only.
I have already 3 threads to check and it's enough for me, so I won't open new separate thread for Stretch in the near future.
So if there are any updates for DD-Stretch I will edit the post here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=931862#931862
and not make any further posts about in this Jessie thread anymore to avoid possible confusion.
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Is it possible to remaster and hold it updated as ISO (*1 for the each daily actual SID version?

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean exactly, didn't try Remaster Suite from Lazy Puppy's, did you test it on DebianDog?
Edit: Oh, maybe you refer to what I wrote about Snapshot Debian, for Sid (daily snapshot) it can be like this:
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Edit sources.list like this (the "snapshot.debian.org" line to today's date):

deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20161116/ unstable main contrib non-free

And uncomment Acquire::Check-Valid-Until "0"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf so becomes this:

Acquire::Check-Valid-Until "0";


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov 2016, 03:26    Post subject: debiandog with antix linux kernel
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great job is debiandog

debiandog with antix linux kernel
is much faster

ram usage is 1gb

with debiandog kernel only 600 mb

lenovo ideapad 1 gb, hdd 150 gb
regards
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov 2016, 08:16    Post subject:  

Hi fred !

Installed new Grub4Dos ........everything is running fine Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 17 Nov 2016, 09:30    Post subject:  

Ok!! thanks backi

Added to Changes and Fixes Information (6)

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 09:02    Post subject:  

Debiandog Jessie shows time incorrectly. How to display the local Time not UTC time?
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Nov 2016, 14:37    Post subject:  

spandey wrote:
Debiandog Jessie shows time incorrectly. How to display the local Time not UTC time?


Try this. Open the file /etc/adjtime . Change where it says UTC to LOCAL (or visa versa). Then run timezone setting program from menu.

This problem is because Windows wants the hardware clock set to local time and Debian Linux wants it set to UTC. If you have more problems, a google search for "debian time zone problem" or something similar will give a detailed explanation.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov 2016, 08:46    Post subject:  

Hi Fred,

Can you take a look at this pic, from when I was doing some updates, and look at the part where it says it is installing "Firefox-45.5.0-ESR"? What's going on there? Anything I can easily fix??
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov 2016, 09:54    Post subject:  

My /usr/bin/x-www-browser is a link to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser binary file - which is sym link to /usr/bin/iceweasel. Similar for gnome-www-browser (sym link to /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser, which is then another sym link to /usr/bin/iceweasel). /usr/bin/iceweasel is then a sym link to firefox /lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr. Perhaps you have another default browser or a prior firefox that wasn't installed from the Debian repository? The Firefox-45.5.0-ESR is the current stable Debian version so the update attempt was correct (mine upgraded from 44 to 45 a few days back). Just to highlight however that I'm running a frugal install of Debian Jessie not DebianDog Jessie

I suspect that the upgrade you posted will have corrected things (so as to reflect the Debian repository) and will work fine going forward. Not so sure about the man pages however (from a quick look for man x-www-browser and man gnome-www-browser I don't get any man pages being shown).

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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov 2016, 10:10    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
My /usr/bin/x-www-browser is a link to /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser binary file - which is sym link to /usr/bin/iceweasel. Similar for gnome-www-browser (sym link to /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser, which is then another sym link to /usr/bin/iceweasel). /usr/bin/iceweasel is then a sym link to firefox /lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr. Perhaps you have another default browser or a prior firefox that wasn't installed from the Debian repository? The Firefox-45.5.0-ESR is the current stable Debian version so the update attempt was correct (mine upgraded from 44 to 45 a few days back). Just to highlight however that I'm running a frugal install of Debian Jessie not DebianDog Jessie

I suspect that the upgrade you posted will have corrected things (so as to reflect the Debian repository) and will work fine going forward. Not so sure about the man pages however (from a quick look for man x-www-browser and man gnome-www-browser I don't get any man pages being shown).


Hi Rufwoof,

Thanks for replying. I checked everything you wrote, and sure enough, I am missing '/usr/bin/iceweasel'. Not sure if I should try to create a link there so that it links back to Firefox, just leave it as it is, or delete all these symlinks & reset them up manually myself. On Fred's OS here, I've only used the included repositories, so I am not sure how things ended up like this. But knowing me, lol, with the way I fool around inside directories, who knows what could've happen.

I do notice that everything seems fine, as you note. 45.5.0 was ultimately installed, and I notice nothing untoward and/or not working correctly. I was just wondering how to get rid of those errors I saw in terminal as things installed.

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sun 20 Nov 2016, 16:21    Post subject:  

Iceweasel was the default stable browser for Jessie but has subsequently reverted to using Firefox. My guess is that the repository/updates just accounts for that legacy and as such can just be ignored.
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