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Eagle Mode: zoomable user interface (ZUI) with file manager
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spiritwild


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 07:51    Post subject:  Eagle Mode: zoomable user interface (ZUI) with file manager
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Played with this on lxpup tahr 14.12. I found it interesting but very awkward for my simple needs. Actually, it reminds me of some old Dos programs that use to emulate windows back in the day.

Maybe someone has use for it, it's quite unique.


http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/
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Flash
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 11:14    Post subject:  

A screenshot would be a nice touch. (Max 800 pixels wide, thank you.)
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Pete


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 13:51    Post subject:  

Uhmmm, interesting concept.
Don't know if it's a stroke of genius or pure madness, but certainly a different approach.

BTW, lots of screenshots here:

http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 21:40    Post subject: Careful with the live image.  

I went to the site, watched the video and was intrigued.

I download the live cd version, burned it to a usb stick with universal usb installer.

It booted and I clicked once on the desktop and it crashed hard. I had some disk errors on my Windows XP partition and had to do a system restore and general futz around with it to get it working again.

So be careful with it if you decide to give it a try.
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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 22:43    Post subject:  

Downloaded the eaglemode_0.91.0-1_i386.deb and created a .sfs file.

Works in tahr 6.0.2.

Press and hold mouse wheel down to scroll windows zoomed content.

Very interesting...

Edit:

Now going to test the 64bit version in tahr64 605.
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Oct 2016, 23:36    Post subject:  

Considering my eyes just aren't what they used to be... I'll be taking a look, as well. Thanks for the insight RSH!

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TyroBGinner

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 00:15    Post subject:  

I have mentioned Eagle Mode on the forum before, but it engendered no interest. I have been using it for a few years after seeing it mentioned on other forums.

It is quite cool and deliciously unix-y - or irix-y, more specifically.

If only there were more graphical toys like this - things in the manner of fsv, xcruise, and tdfsb. In particular, fsv was inspired by one of SGI's graphical file managers - it famously appeared in the movie Jurassic Park.

The visual presentation of information structures can stand some improvement. Interesting and striking examples in the field may be found here.
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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 00:18    Post subject:  

Downloaded the eaglemode_0.91.0-1_amd64.deb and created a .sfs file.

Works in tahr64 6.0.5.

Press and hold mouse wheel down to scroll windows zoomed content. Work also for the application bar on top of the window.

Very, very interesting...

...and very, very cool. The more I get familiar with that, the more I like it.

To configure some of its applications plugins, just edit the perl files in:

/usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands

Example file:

/usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands/AudioVideo/Kaffeine.pl

Since there is no kaffeine installed in tahr (and since I don't have such .sfs file) I just changed this for the use of Aqualung Audio Player.

Original using Kaffeine wrote:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#[[BEGIN PROPERTIES]]
# Type = Command
# Order = 1.0
# Interpreter = perl
# DefaultFor = .aac:.asf:.au:.avi:.flac:.fli:.flv:.it:.m2t:.m2v:.mkv:.mod:.mov:.mp3:.mp4:.mpeg:.mpg:.mpv:.ogg:.ogv:.ra:.rm:.s3m:.stm:.wav:.vob:.wma:.wmv:.xm
# Caption = Kaffeine
# Descr =Open audio or video files in the Kaffeine Player. It is
# Descr =even possible to open a directory which contains files to
# Descr =be played.
# Descr =
# Descr =Selection details:
# Descr =
# Descr = Source: Ignored.
# Descr =
# Descr = Target: The files or the directory to be opened.
# Icon = thirdparty/kaffeine.tga
#[[END PROPERTIES]]

use strict;
use warnings;
BEGIN { require "$ENV{'EM_DIR'}/res/emFileMan/scripts/cmd-util.pl"; }

OpenTargetsWith('kaffeine');


I just changed the red parts above to the green ones below.

Modification for Aqualung wrote:
#!/usr/bin/perl
#[[BEGIN PROPERTIES]]
# Type = Command
# Order = 1.0
# Interpreter = perl
# DefaultFor = .aac:.asf:.au:.avi:.flac:.fli:.flv:.it:.m2t:.m2v:.mkv:.mod:.mov:.mp3:.mp4:.mpeg:.mpg:.mpv:.ogg:.ogv:.ra:.rm:.s3m:.stm:.wav:.vob:.wma:.wmv:.xm
# Caption = Aqualung
# Descr =Open audio files in the Aqualung Player. It is
# Descr =even possible to open a directory which contains files to
# Descr =be played.
# Descr =
# Descr =Selection details:
# Descr =
# Descr = Source: Ignored.
# Descr =
# Descr = Target: The files or the directory to be opened.
# Icon = thirdparty/Aqualung.tga
#[[END PROPERTIES]]

use strict;
use warnings;
BEGIN { require "$ENV{'EM_DIR'}/res/emFileMan/scripts/cmd-util.pl"; }

OpenTargetsWith('aqualung');


I should change also the list of: DefaultFor

Done this also already for the use of geany instead of none-existing gedit text editor.

Since these files are some sort of 'plugins' it's probably possible to create own perl files like the example above. Though, I didn't check this out by now.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 00:45    Post subject:  

Quote:
Since these files are some sort of 'plugins' it's probably possible to create own perl files like the example above. Though, I didn't check this out by now.

Checked this right now.

Doing a copy of /usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands/AudioVideo/VLC.pl copied to /usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands/AudioVideo/Aqualung.pl.

Reset the /usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands/AudioVideo/Kaffeine.pl back to original.

Edited all the parts in /usr/lib/eaglemode/etc/emFileMan/Commands/AudioVideo/Aqualung.pl for the use of Aqualung Player.

Removed /root/.eaglemode and started eaglemode.

Aqualung item appeared in the applications bar and runs from that item.

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Pete


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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 04:25    Post subject:  

TyroBGinner wrote:
.... fsv was inspired by one of SGI's graphical file managers - it famously appeared in the movie Jurassic Park.
....


This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxIPcbmo1_U



@LazY Puppy

You've done quite a bit of work already and have inspired me to try it out.
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 10:27    Post subject:  

I downloaded the 64-bit AMD .deb. Just clicking on it installed it without any problem in Quirky Werewolf 64. After fiddling with it for half an hour, I decided it wasn't for me and closed it out. When I went back to using the Internet, I found that I had learned to expect the scroll wheel to zoom instead of scrolling. That slowed me down for a while until I unlearned it.

Eagle Mode is an impressive piece of work, but no use to me.

I noticed that it incorrectly reports the size of directories. Why is that so hard to do?
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TyroBGinner

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 13:46    Post subject:  

Could you give some detail on the incorrect reporting of directory sizes?
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PostPosted: Fri 07 Oct 2016, 17:12    Post subject:  

When I was looking at a directory that contained, say, 200 MB of files, the number that Eagle Mode showed was something like 64 kB, or at any rate much less than the correct size, and all the directories showed the same number. All the file managers I've seen do pretty much the same thing, except ROX, which shows nothing at all for the size of a directory. At least ROX is honest. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Nov 2016, 16:45    Post subject:  

Very special thingie!

Visually thrilling, spectacular and 'universe-in-mind'ing one. WOW!
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