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#41 Post by anewuser »

kerl, back. smokey01 ty (about notecase)

I guess we're back on track. Do we have a deadline in the sense "we'll publish at"? I guess we'll be writing about personal interests which will make whatever we come up with or whatever it's named very frankestenian, which is an amazing in itself.

I'll start writing. Who compiles material? Kerl?

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#42 Post by smokey01 »

@kerl I hope you don't mind but I've already started working on the first edition. Some of the topics I suggest are: A basic editorial each month, a distro update, maybe a small biography about some of the significant contributors, various articles about tweaks, packages and developments.

I guess anything that people want to contribute should be considered. At times there will need to be some form of control so we don't lose our way. I don't think this should be a place to discuss highly controversial matters especially at the detriment of Puppy Linux or it's users.

If you have something you wish to contribute please email me at smokey01@internode.on.net.

If anyone else want to take on the task of editor I'm happy to step aside and be a contributor. I'm just helping get it started. We shall see what develops.

Cheers

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#43 Post by musher0 »

Great! Many thanks Smokey01!

As for me, for this edition, maybe I'd like to contribute a little something to
showcase pekwm on Puppy. Can you suggest a word count for this article?
Or generally what would be your preferred format?

Edit: Almost forgot! What's your deadline/timeline? TIA

TWYL
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#44 Post by smokey01 »

@musher0
I guess we are not restricted by word count although we should keep it short enough to be interesting but long enough to be conclusive. I guess if we need a number, how does <1000 words measure up?

As for a deadline, I've been thinking about this but haven't really nailed it.
I think we should put out a taster for the new year. My dilemma is, do we call it Jan-2017 and cover activities in December or do we call it December and release it in January? I'm thinking the former.
musher0 wrote:Great! Many thanks Smokey01!

As for me, for this edition, maybe I'd like to contribute a little something to
showcase pekwm on Puppy. Can you suggest a word count for this article?
Or generally what would be your preferred format?

Edit: Almost forgot! What's your deadline/timeline? TIA

TWYL

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#45 Post by kerl »

Hi all,
I've got a monumental cold so don't wait for me!
I'll check out smokey01’s notebook asap.
I can be useful asking newbie questions and being Mr. Kerl Bookmarker.
I see this more like a way to present interesting threads of the forum, links between them, projects and why are important, small how-to for advanced and newbie users..
I'd vote for a section called "make puppy look like xp" :)
Of course there should be an option to subscribe by email. It'll be nice for casual visitors to be expecting the goodies of the forum on their mail box

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#46 Post by musher0 »

smokey01 wrote:@musher0
I guess we are not restricted by word count although we should keep it short enough to be interesting but long enough to be conclusive. I guess if we need a number, how does <1000 words measure up?

As for a deadline, I've been thinking about this but haven't really nailed it.
I think we should put out a taster for the new year. My dilemma is, do we call it Jan-2017 and cover activities in December or do we call it December and release it in January? I'm thinking the former.
musher0 wrote:Great! Many thanks Smokey01!

As for me, for this edition, maybe I'd like to contribute a little something to
showcase pekwm on Puppy. Can you suggest a word count for this article?
Or generally what would be your preferred format?

Edit: Almost forgot! What's your deadline/timeline? TIA

TWYL
Hi Smokey01.

One thousand words ~= 3-4 pages at 250-300 words per page. Should be
more than enough to give a good overview of most subjects. (IMO)

As to dating the newsletter, I suppose it's up to you. If you go to a news-
stand and look at the magazine issues, a lot of them bear the date
January 2017 and I'm writing this on Dec. 14, 2016.

Perhaps simply indicate the date you publish it on when you publish it.
Readers will understand no one can write about the future! ;)

What I meant is: will you be giving contributors a deadline? E.g.:
"musher0, your pekwm article has to be in by such_and_such_a_date,
else it won't be included in this issue."

Or is this editor more laid-back? With say, an attitude of "We publish
when we've got N notecase nodes filled."

IHTH. BFN.

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PS. Thanks for taking on this role, BTW. I'm sure the entire Puppy
community will be grateful.
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#47 Post by smokey01 »

musher0 wrote: As to dating the newsletter, I suppose it's up to you. If you go to a news-
stand and look at the magazine issues, a lot of them bear the date
January 2017 and I'm writing this on Dec. 14, 2016.

Perhaps simply indicate the date you publish it on when you publish it.
Readers will understand no one can write about the future! ;)

What I meant is: will you be giving contributors a deadline? E.g.:
"musher0, your pekwm article has to be in by such_and_such_a_date,
else it won't be included in this issue."

Or is this editor more laid-back? With say, an attitude of "We publish
when we've got N notecase nodes filled."
I think the deadline would work at the 20th of each month. This would give about 10 days to publish on the 1st of each month. Some months may have more content than others. It shouldn't take long to cobble things together in Notecase and about a week for the proof readers, hopefully we will get a few volunteers.

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#48 Post by kerl »

This is an example of bookmarking with tags and descriptions while browsing the forums. It can be exported to html.
If you send me an email I can grant you permission to edit this folder: https://bookmarkos.com/f/RVHepRbueJM

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#49 Post by smokey01 »

I have a fair chunk of the first newsletter done.

Send in those articles so I can include them. All articles for the Jan17 edition need to be sent to me by 20th Dec16 at smokey01@internode.on.net

My progress can be seen here: http://smokey01.com/newsletters/

Not finished, but it's a start.

Come on guys, are we going to do this or what?

No what's please :wink:

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#50 Post by TyroBGinner »

I wasn't planning on commenting on this, but this is so crazy...is that really a picture of Kauler? That is wild. I never envisioned him as being so furry. There were some links to descriptions of his personal experiences, namely, exploring frontier areas. The whole Australian countryside thing does seem to have some romantic appeal. Well, good luck with the effort....carry on.

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#51 Post by tlchost »

smokey01 wrote: My progress can be seen here: http://smokey01.com/newsletters/
Nice work
Thom

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#52 Post by Mike Walsh »

tlchost wrote:
smokey01 wrote: My progress can be seen here: http://smokey01.com/newsletters/
Nice work
Thom
Have to agree with Thom. Not bad at all..!


Mike. :wink:

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#53 Post by musher0 »

Smokey01?

Your first typo!!! ;)

"is" verb is missing, first sentence, Software part. It should read:
"Each month this is where new or updated software will be announced."

Also for the title, black type on dark blue background... Maybe we
can use more contrast? ;) How about white type?

As a web page, the articles cannot fold like in an original notecase
document, right?

So maybe a way can be found to bring out the titles of the articles,
perhaps with underline, bold and larger font? For a minute, there, I
was a bit lost, not knowing where one article finished and the next one
started.

~~~~~~
Great mock-up you put together though!

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Now it just needs a bit more Puppy food ;), in the form of articles. I
don't know if I made it clear: as for me, I'm on that pekwm article!

We continue!
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#54 Post by anewuser »

smokey01 wrote: My progress can be seen here: http://smokey01.com/newsletters/
So far Good looking!

I'd bold sections (Distro updates, software, compiling, etc)

In the Compiling section I'd limit the howtos and test cases to code under 200k only or at most 500k (we wouldn't be showing how to compile massive applications like gcc, or seamonkey) - The reasoning: to keep things simple, to show common errors that could happen, and needed requirements, and to get people used how to hack.

Maybe a Misc section for things that don't fit anywhere else?

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#55 Post by LazY Puppy »

musher0 wrote:Smokey01?

Your first typo!!! ;)

"is" verb is missing, first sentence, Software part. It should read:
"Each month this is where new or updated software will be announced.
There's also Contibutions (the blue rectangle with white text).

Edit:

There's also doubles (tahr64 listing):
mtp-connect, pmcputemp, mtp-connect,
RSH

"you only wanted to work your Puppies in German", "you are a separatist in that you want Germany to secede from Europe" (musher0) :lol:

No, but I gave my old drum kit away for free to a music store collecting instruments for refugees! :wink:

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#56 Post by anikin »

Trying to understand what's the ultimate goal of this effort. What purpose does it serve? What's the target audience? Is there any demand for this product? Or, is it just another outburst of claptrap?

*If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read it, you are misinformed*
- Mark Twain

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#57 Post by tlchost »

Mike Walsh wrote:[
Have to agree with Thom. Not bad at all..!
Mike. :wink:
Careful....the Guilt by Association mode may be turned on.

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#58 Post by anewuser »

anikin wrote:Trying to understand what's the ultimate goal of this effort. What purpose does it serve? What's the target audience? Is there any demand for this product? Or, is it just another outburst of claptrap?

*If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read it, you are misinformed*
- Mark Twain
I saw it as magazine like, but ultimately a newsletter is a summary of the happenings. So it should be seen as if you are not interested in boards or are too busy to weed out the threads and posts then the newsletter is the next best thing.

But it's a newsletter with a twist it seems (which is cool because it's unusual and puppian in spirit) with articles from board members within their interests.

Proposed goals:
Inform the community. (newsletter)
Let members publish more polished technical information within their interests (which already happens on the board but scared around)
Engage the community in more communication.

This is a test, if it fails, it'll be ok. It's not a business, it's due out of love to puppy. It's a pasttime activity for others. It's not forced, it's a collaboration effort.

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#59 Post by smokey01 »

musher0 wrote:"is" verb is missing, first sentence, Software part. It should read: "Each month this is where new or updated software will be announced."
Fixed
musher0 wrote:Also for the title, black type on dark blue background... Maybe we can use more contrast? Wink How about white type?
I thought it looked nice but I can try white.
musher0 wrote:As a web page, the articles cannot fold like in an original notecase document, right?

So maybe a way can be found to bring out the titles of the articles,
perhaps with underline, bold and larger font? For a minute, there, I
was a bit lost, not knowing where one article finished and the next one
started.
If you're suggesting manually editing the html file then than would create quite a bit of additional work. What I have done is place a space before and after articles to increase the separation. There is a way to add titles but I can't remember how to do it.
musher0 wrote:Now it just needs a bit more Puppy food Wink, in the form of articles. I don't know if I made it clear: as for me, I'm on that pekwm article!
Yes I'm waiting for it.
anewuser wrote:In the Compiling section I'd limit the howtos and test cases to code under 200k only or at most 500k (we wouldn't be showing how to compile massive applications like gcc, or seamonkey) - The reasoning: to keep things simple, to show common errors that could happen, and needed requirements, and to get people used how to hack.

Maybe a Misc section for things that don't fit anywhere else?
I don't suggest we put large chunks of code in, just the commands to compile the source.

We could have a Misc section or the article could just have it's own section.
LazY Puppy wrote:There's also Contibutions (the blue rectangle with white text).
Added the "r".

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#60 Post by musher0 »

@Smokey01

About clear delimitation of the articles:
-- I didn't mean to impose any extra work on you. I wasn't thinking of any
fancy markup.

Perhaps the good old journalists' code for End at the bottom of an article

Code: Select all

-- 30 --
would do the trick, OR
a long line of "#"'s, bash script style,

Code: Select all

###########################
or similar character , OR
even simpler:

Code: Select all

## END ##
BarryK uses this one a lot at the end of his scripts.

Just a few thoughts. BFN.
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