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#41 Post by Max Headroom »

Thanx ETP 4 Responding, Actually there isn't any 1 configuration, since the Plan is 2 install it Locally on a Variety of ( ReFurbished ) Laptops & Desktops, so that in mind I Need the Best Vanilla Process, Also I've Yet 2 Remaster it as I Need 2 Do...

it's assumed that there'll be a Minimum 40GB HDD ( Total ), Minimum 512 MB RAMemory & 1GHz CPU, so Considering those Spex & it's possible age it may not Boot from USB, so I'll Need 2 Remaster Both V1 & V2.

BTW I've installed V1 on a Dell Latitude C610, 1.2GHz Pentium 3 w/ 512MB RAMemory, Unfortunately because the Main Battery is Dead it Needs 2 be Plugged in2 the AC, But I have Done All the OB-Precise Updates Via Eth0 & installed the Programs I want, But Chrome Won't start, so I'm Guessing that there's a Hardware Limitation, Just Too Old!?

Perhaps I'm a little Unrealistic about How Much otherwise ( ie. Physically ) Working Hardware I can Divert from the Landfill. Please Comment.

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#42 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

This Pup is specialised in that it is as released,intended to emulate a Chromebook.
To that end OOTB,it includes Google Chrome stable 39.0.2171.95 – pepper flash 16.0.0.235.
That must not be upgraded as later versions became problematic and do not contain the vital
features such as the desktop "search facility" and working "OK Google"
Loss of those features would negate the Pup's primary purpose.
Later versions of Chrome require more modern Pups. The included version of Chrome should work
OOTB even on old hardware.

If I had the task of installing a Pup on old refurbished laptops/desktops I would probably
install one of the current 32-bit "official" Pups.
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#43 Post by Max Headroom »

But ETP w/ All Due Respect I Really Like Your ChromeBook Pup, so I'll take My Chances w/ your Puplet, it's Not 2 say that I Actually like the Real ChromeBook McCoy, 2 the Contrary ( They're Budget Quality & Features No Optical Dr, etc ), rather it's the Familiarity Factor that I'm Banking on.

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#44 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Puppy is all about experimentation. If you are game and want everything on the hard disc rather than booting
from the stick with a modified syslinux.cfg you could try the following. I stress that I have not validated
this approach but cannot see why it should not work.

Instead of targeting a USB stick with the V2 extracted/decompressed image, target the hard disc sda

The code to do so is as follows: (sda must not be mounted)

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# xz --decompress --stdout chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz > /dev/sda 
# sync
(Only issue the sync command when the 1st command has finished)

Everything on the hard disc will be lost and you should finish up with 2 partitions - sda1 and sda2

Mount sda1 and change /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg as follows:

Original OOTB:

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# Boot Chromebook Pup V2 ETP 18th Dec 2014
default /vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash psavemark=2


Modified version:

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# Boot Chromebook Pup V2 ETP 18th Dec 2014
# default /vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.gz pmedia=usbflash psavemark=2                               # Original single active line
default /vmlinuz initrd=/initrd.gz pmedia=atahd pupsfs=sda2:/obprecise_14.07.26.sfs pdev1=sda2 # Revised active line
If the above works it should better suit your intended purpose.
The 2 partitions will only take up about 4GB of the hard disc and the remainder should show in gparted as unformated.
A third partition may be created in that free space in a Linux format of your choice.
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#45 Post by Max Headroom »

ETP, I'm getting No such file or directory

I'm Not sure if it matters which Terminal or Console I use, Urxvt Terminal eMulator opens w/ a Hash
#
like your Code eg. But I can't Paste into it ( because I'm Unsure if there's spaces ) or
ROXTerm Opens w/
sh-4.3#
which I Can Paste into?

Thanx 4 your Patience ETP

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#46 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Urxvt will do. See below assuming your chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz file is in the Downloads folder.

To copy the command line including the deliberate spaces highlight it with your mouse (Do not add extra spaces at the start or end)

Paste into the Urxvt terminal by clicking your mouse scroll wheel.

Check and double check again that it is an exact match before pressing enter.

The second command can just be typed in once the first completes (20-30 minutes)
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#47 Post by Max Headroom »

ETP I'm Still getting No such File or Directory
Yes the chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz File is in Downloads Folder

sda1 isn't mounted & is Formatted as f2fs

How Hard can it be I Hear Jeremy Clarkson say :)

Thanx again ETP 4 your Patience...

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#48 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Open a window on the directory that contains the chromebook_pup_v2.img.xz file.

Press your ` key to open up a terminal.

In the window that opens type ls then press enter. (That lists all the files which should include the above)

If you can see the file listed you can then copy and paste the first command highlighted in blue in the last screen-shot.

Triple check it before pressing enter. The cursor will flash for 20- 30 minutes whilst the image is written to the HD.

You can then issue the sync command when the prompt appears again.
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#49 Post by Max Headroom »

Good News & Bad News ETP
The installation Worked, altho there were sum Anxious moments, Mainly a GParted Bug that turned out 2 be a Red Herring & sda2 didn't appear until I ReBooted

But on the other side of the Ledger the Wireless isn't happening, this is on 3 identical Toshiba Tecra M5's, w/ intel Centrino Duos, 2 GHz CPUs, 1 or 2 GB RAMemory, 60 or 80 GB HDD, Same Fawlt on All w/ SNS as in the Attached Screen Captures, of course I've followed the instructions, Retried & Rebooted, & Tried w/ Frisbee & the Network Wizard. ( Hopefully My eXtremely Ltd CLi is Helpful )

I've installed your per_desktop_wallpaper, that Works Great Thanx again, So far I've been using Eth0 to Set this Laptop up, installed the Programs I Want on it Once I get on top of the Wireless issue I Need 2 Create a Vanilla ReMaster.

But Let's Count This eXperimentation as PROGRESS!

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#50 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

That is welcome news. I have uploaded a pet to the same location as previously which hopefully will
sort out your Intel iwl 3945 missing firmware issue. The Intel firmware is in the zdrv.sfs file but I have extracted it
and created a pet to simplify matters.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... sp=sharing

Install the pet then shutdown making shure that you save the session.

Remove the ethernet lead then power up again and see if it gives you wireless.
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#51 Post by Max Headroom »

Hay that's Magic ETP,... There's Lite @ the eNd of the Tunnel, Yippee...

Now the Final Frontier, The Remastering, it Only just Dawned on Me, How is this Remastered Back 2 the USB Stick rather than CD or if it Saved as an img.xz File? is that How yoU Built ChromeBook Pup from Blue Pup?

Can I Faithfully Follow the instructions in The Puppy Simple CD Remaster Window or aRe there any Gotchas, that I Need a Heads-Up 4? Please.

Thanx!

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#52 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Can I assume that wireless is now working?

Chromebook was not built from Blue Pup but there are some similarities in that they are both issued
as images. Neither is Chromebook V1 (Hybrid ISO) or V2 (img file) normal in Puppy terms.
You can forget remastering as that is intended only for normal standard Puppy ISOs which do not
possess the features that Chromebook Pup has.

Once you are happy with the build on one hard disc you need to use the CD or USB stick version of Clonezilla Live to
image/backup the working hard disc and then to write that backup/image to another hard disc.
In effect you clone the build you have.

http://clonezilla.org/

http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php

http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php#make

You will need a USB drive or stick to back up to. A 16GB stick should suffice as there is very little
data and only used blocks are imaged and compressed.
Clonezilla will warn you if that is insufficient.

One thing I would suggest is that you increase the size of the save file which is only 512MB OOTB.
Use the Utility/Resize personal-storage-file menu option to add 1024MB.
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#53 Post by Max Headroom »

G'day there again ETP, Sorry in Me eXCitement of Me Last Post that I wasn't Clear about the Success of Working Wireless.

As it stands, I Think I've got a Mostly Working Build ( eXcepting GCompris Not starting from the Menu, I haven't yet tried Starting it via Command Line, ( I've Done a Dependency Check & that's All Good ), But I'm in the Process of a 2nd Attempt @ Cloning w/ Clonezilla, after the Previous Effort didn't work, this time I'll see if "sync" Helps? ) Maybe My Version of Clonezilla is too Old? ( about 5 years ), This Clonezilla seems rather Slow, Maybe dd or Pudd will be Faster, I Need 2 Do More Testing!

Update 2nd Attempt was in Vain... Ke*nel Panic, Not Syncing

I Did Remember 2 Edit & Add the 3rd Line to the syslinux.cfg File, Altho I'm Unsure if that is Appropriate in this Cloning Process as Opposed 2 Copying / Transferring that yoU Previously Mentioned?

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#54 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

I do recommend using the latest version of Clonezilla rather than dd or Pudd (A Gui for dd) as it
will give you compression. I have therefore uploaded clonezilla-live-2.5.0-25-amd64.iso plus the
Windows app LinuxLive USB Creator 2.9.4.exe should you wish to place the ISO on a USB stick rather
than burn the ISO.

Ideally an external USB drive should be used for saving the complete hard disc image to and then restoring from to
another hard disc.
Both the backup and the restore must be done using Clonezilla live.

I am guessing from your post that you are doing builds on more than one of the laptops before deciding which
one to clone. A kernel panic is generally caused by an incorrect syslinux.cfg entry. If the first build is
working copy over the good syslinux.cfg from that.

If you clone a working build over to another hard disc it will be an exact copy with no need to edit anything
on the second machine. I am assuming that your 3 identical laptops contain hard discs that are identical in size.
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#55 Post by Max Headroom »

Thanx ETP 4 Uploading Clonezilla, it's Running from Me USB, But B4 I Do Clone Me Virtually Working Modified KromeBook Pup. I'd Better Fix this GCompris Crash... it Begins 2 start from the Fun Menu, But then Crashes, the Dependency Checker doesn't eXpose Anything missing, So this is the Output from the Console as Attached...

Also so far it's still Running from Me USB Flash Dr, Until I get this GCompris Problem solved.

BTW I think I've run into a Bug, in that the Puppy Package Manager & Dependency Checker Report that TuxMath & TuxType need kmod, But when I install it, it Breaks ( ie. I Lose ) Me Sound & Networks Both Wireless & Eth0 ( & I Dunno Wot eLse ), Yet Both TuxMath & TuxType seem 2 Work Fine without kmod?!

Looks like I'm a Crash Test Dummy!

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#56 Post by Max Headroom »

While I'm @ it ETP, Do yoU have any other Recommendations of Free Educational Software Appropriate 4 Primary School aged Kids? Please

STOP Press ETP, Looks like I'm Digging Meself Deeper, while Attempting 2 Fix a writetype ( A Childrens Educational Program ) Dependencies sip-api-8.1 & kmod, the internet search suggesting the solution was installing python-sip_4.13.2-1_amd64.deb, But now it seems I've Broken Chrome & it either Crashes or just displays Aw Snap! I haven't installed kmod either 4 Reasons mentioned in the Previous Post... Calling WriteType again from Console says IOError: invalid Python installation:... ?

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#57 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Some general points:

1. Any package you install must be obtained via PPM within the Pup that you are using (Chromebook Pup in this case) and be installed
via PPM together with all its dependencies using PPM. Any package obtained from another source is unlikely to work.

2. Even doing that correctly is no guarantee of success in every case as the packages are built to be compatible with
Ubuntu rather than Puppy which is very different in its basic structure.

3. Kmod is in every Pup which makes me think that some of the packages were not obtained via PPM in this Pup. The 3 "must have"
packages are available in PPM. (see attached screenies)

4. You have mentioned installing python-sip_4.13.2-1_amd64.deb ..... That will break it as Chromebook Pup is a 32-bit Pup.

Possible way forward:

Stop being a crash test dummy and simply install the latest Ubuntu on the hard discs if the laptops have at least 2GB of memory.
The packages you require are all available in their software center. It contains multiple games and educational software.
Sorry, but I am not familiar with stuff for primary school aged kids so cannot make any specific recommendations.

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/games/

http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/writetype

5. You can if you wish, still run your modified version of CB Pup if at boot time, you have the stick plugged in and at the top of your boot order.
Boot without it plugged in and you will launch Ubuntu.
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#58 Post by Max Headroom »

Lesson Learned ETP Guru ( = Teacher, Respectfully :-) ), re Not installing from alternative sources, But I Did install All of those Programs ( TuxMath, TuxType, GCompris, ChildsPlay & WriteType ) via PPM ( Clicking on the eXamine Dependencies Button ) & likewise kmod from the PPM, which Broke Me Sound & Network interfaces, But I am Frustrated that According 2 Your 2nd General Point I may have 2 Give Up on ChildsPlay, wRiteType & GCompris Working w/ Your CB Pup that I rather Prefer Over Both Ubuntu & ChromeBook, All because of that Cursed Common IOError: invalid Python installation:... Problem! as per My Previously Attached ScreenShots

Thanx again ETP, But I still Wish there is a Solution...?

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#59 Post by ETP »

Hi Max,

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. One last idea/attempt.

Use PPM to install the following. Start with the bottom item and install it plus all deps.

Use PPM to install seperately anything on the list that it does not pull in.

python2.7_2.7.3|Interactive high-level object-oriented language version 2.7
python2.7-minimal_2.7.3|Minimal subset of the Python language version 2.7
python-cairo_1.8.8|Python bindings for the Cairo vector graphics library
python-gobject-2_2.28.6|deprecated static Python bindings for the GObject library
python-gtk2_2.24.0-3|Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set
python-minimal_2.7.3|minimal subset of the Python language default version

If still no joy go for Ubuntu.
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#60 Post by Max Headroom »

Thanx ETP 4 going the eXtra Mile w/ this, But alas that attempt was in Vain, Returned the same out as B4, However 1 Last idea Occurred 2 Me that I Wish yoU'd Consider it's Merits, if We were 2 Build & Run them as sfs Packages, Rather than pets. If yoU Think it's Worth eXploring & yoU're Up 4 it, I'm a Great Testes... Please, Wot Do yoU Reckon? Coz I Really don't know, altho I Certainly Wish I Did! & of Course I'm Lacking Your Skills 2 Do it!

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