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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 17:03    Post subject: gtkdialog  

Hi wanderer/anyone-interested,

Here is a gtkdialog sce. It's the one used in XenialDog converted to an sce, which I'm using on my dCore-xenial system. It will work with ash, though if you want to use Puppy gtkdialog utilities on your corepup, most of these will require you to use bash (and modify your system to use default shell bash rather than sh).

EDIT: Since it was converted from a single deb file, it may need extra dependencies installed. I don't remember (but I don't think it did) - just let me know if you have problems with it.

William

EDIT2: More details and the actual gtkdialog sce download now in my dCore-xenial HowTo here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=946639#946639

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 21:56    Post subject:  

Note that you need both the sce and the sce.md5.txt to put into your /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/sce folder for the gtkdialog sce in the post above to be recognised (followed by an sce-load command).
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 21:58    Post subject:  

cool mcewanw

messing with it now

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 22:03    Post subject:  

I always enjoyed playing with tinycore in the past, though considered it a bit of an effort to build a working system. I'm REALLY enjoying my dCore-xenial system - it's so close to using a proper Debian-live compatible system like XenialDog but more like playing with a Lego kit, which I love. Once it is built up, it's a great toy and also a serious work/user-desktop platform. Look and feel is just a matter of loading and configuring the desktop window manager you prefer, but I have to say I kind of enjoy the frugal utility of flwm-topside, but I am looking forward to trying out your corepup build wanderer, and specially the configuration and build you use for JWM.

The other aspect of 'puppyfying' is the ability to handle Puppy utilities - I'll provide more information on that later (I'm busy trying to get my own wex program to work (which is a complex util since it allows recording audio/video and screencast with ffmpeg at SSR type quality) - almost there (have gtkdialog working with loaded bash okay), but have a wee problem I'm trying to suss out just now - not sure what the issue is yet though). Generally speaking, I think it is usually best just to rely on the utils provided by tinycore devs instead - some Puppy utils unfortunately assume running as root user (wex doesn't though).

William

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 22:17    Post subject:  

mcewanw

its great your doing the dcore thing
it was a little beyond me

by the way
how do i put a picture on the thread
i have some screenshots of corepup

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 22:28    Post subject:  

wanderer wrote:
mcewanw

its great your doing the dcore thing
it was a little beyond me

by the way
how do i put a picture on the thread
i have some screenshots of corepup

wanderer


Just make a jpeg of dimensions no more than 800 pixels wide, and add as attachment wanderer.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 22:58    Post subject:  

hi all

this is a screenshot of corepup
with artwork and hacked jwm and wbar

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 23:02    Post subject:  

here is another with another background
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 23:07    Post subject:  

thanks james c

couldnt figure it out

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 23:57    Post subject:  

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thanks james c

couldnt figure it out

wanderer


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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 04:38    Post subject: EDE small and fast desktop environment
Subject description: Equinox Desktop Environment
 

Yes, JWM is quite nice and reasonably efficient. But what I love about Fast Light Window Manager FLWM (with topside decorations), which should not to be confused with FVWM is highlighted here:

Quote:
The "taskbar" (or iconbox), "start menu", Alt+Tab window switching, multiple desktop switching, "panel", and "start menu" are all merged into a singe pop-up menu that takes zero space when not being used. Same popup menu can be brought up by clicking on desktop, right-clicking on window border, or Alt+Tab


So even if you have an app window fullscreen, simply clicking Alt-Tab brings up that pop-up menu (maybe JWM can do similar? I haven't tried but usually end up wasting time minimising window to get back to JWM panel or desktop background... annoying...).

I'm pretty sure you could add a panel (like tint2) to flwm_topside if you wanted that.

Of course JWM looks friendlier to ex-Windows users (really harks back to Win98 look). If you like that and want a pretty complete desktop environment also using FLTK then EDE looks interesting (I haven't yet tried it):

https://equinox-project.org/

http://equinox-project.org/wiki/AboutEde

Unfortunately, I can't find a version from tinycore repositories. Indeed, may need to be compiled from source unless this experimental Debian (Jessie) version would do:

http://ede.elderlinux.org/repos/_experimental/debian/jessie/i386/

For that Debian version, also see:

http://equinox-project.org/wiki/edeondebianlinux

Source code here:

http://equinox-project.org/wiki/download

An older basic JWM is also pretty great in terms of efficiency of course...

William

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 05:26    Post subject: FLIT: an FLTK-native "tray
Subject description: with clock, sound control, and battery monitor
 

Quote:
FLIT: an FLTK-native "tray" with clock, sound control, and battery monitor


is available from tinycore repository. I obtained a copy here for converting to an sce for my dCore-xenial system (which uses flwm_topside window manager):

http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/7.x/x86/tcz/

I've still to try it though.

EDIT: okay, quickly changed the tcz to an sce simply by renaming the extension to .sce instead of .tcz and creating an md5.txt file using command:

Code:

md5sum flit.sce > flit.sce.md5.txt


It is as trivial as that to convert any core tcz into an sce suitable for use in dCore... (and the other way round for converting sce into tcz of course, which should usually remain compatible as long as using same dCore and core versions since same kernel and more used in both - many simple extensions will work in both anyway)

To use it just stuck flit.sce and flit.sce.md5.txt into /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/sce, and issued command "sce-load", chose flit and then ran the command in a console. Looks nice and neat and efficient. Don't know if can stay "on top" though.

William

NOTE/EDIT: Though 'free' and 'top' utilities are usually present anyway, one of the first system resources testing apps I always install on any system is "lxtask" task manager program - it has very few dependencies and runs very light. It can be downloaded from dCore repositories with:

Code:

sce-import -br lxtask


followed by sce-load to load it ready to run from console or wherever.

As for the time: you could always just type this in a console!
Code:

echo `/bin/date +'%I:%M:%S%p'`


Above from the more sophisticated version running in small aterm:

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13794.0.html

or C program:

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13793.msg77140.html#new

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 12:54    Post subject:  

wow mcewanw

reading all your stuff now

its hugh

thanks much

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 13:06    Post subject:  

oh by the way
one of the reasons im messing with jwm is because
its written in c only needs xlib and i can hack it
i intend to try to do some major hacks on it
to do cool things and also learn c
i have a few other little c programs
that i intend to make part of corepup
like lovell's libc editor and a tiny shell
i want to write stuff in busybox ash and tcc-run c
in the spirit of minimalism

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