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Fatdog64-710 Final [4 Dec 2016]
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drunkjedi


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PostPosted: Wed 15 Mar 2017, 23:14    Post subject: Re: 10 min review of fatdog  

steff99 wrote:
I also love thunar file manager and the xfce desktop. I tired multiple times to get that working but it was impossible. perhaps a derivitive would go well?
Our friend Gobbi has posted an sfs file for xfce desktop in our contributed software thread.
See following link.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=947746#947746
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 15:25    Post subject:  

@drunkjedi - thanks for the info.

@stemsee: What do you want to know? I've some info here: http://lightofdawn.org/wiki/wiki.cgi/SonyLinuxUefiBoot.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 09:46    Post subject:  

Another review: https://itsfoss.com/fatdog64-linux-review/

Greetings!

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 03:17    Post subject:  

Nice review. Thank you for the info.
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dr. Dan

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 21:33    Post subject:  

@jamesbond: Thanks for the getjava update! Will xfe be updated soon? There's a useful bug fix.

I've modified that battery script, in hopes of greater usability. Anyone's feedback will be appreciated.

Dan
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PostPosted: Thu 23 Mar 2017, 05:18    Post subject: Re: Question about humongous initrd and base sfs file sizes  

jd7654 wrote:

And I always split out the fd64.sfs from the humongous initrd due to the booting being so painfully slow on all the machines I tried it on.


Furthermore, netbooks like Acer Aspire ES1-132 with UEFI don't load humungous initrd at all, resulting in "error: couldn't find suitable memory target", but small initrd loads OK. Since this netbook model requires at least 4.9 kernel (yet last available for Fatdog 710 is 4.7.1) the new Fatdog release IMHO shall have small initrd on ISO.

Also, according to this: https://community.acer.com/t5/E-F-and-M-Series-Laptops/ES1-132-cannot-install-other-OS-than-Windows-10-BIOS-options/m-p/490737/highlight/true#M15238 EFI install is specific for these models.

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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 14:05    Post subject:  

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Furthermore, netbooks like Acer Aspire ES1-132 with UEFI don't load humungous initrd at all, resulting in "error: couldn't find suitable memory target", but small initrd loads OK.
Curious, since it has 2G of memory. But it is what it is, some UEFI implemention is really odd.

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Since this netbook model requires at least 4.9 kernel (yet last available for Fatdog 710 is 4.7.1) the new Fatdog release IMHO shall have small initrd on ISO.
We don't have a kernel higher than 4.4.x yet. Anything higher than 4.4.x are actually "test" kernels; and all of them have problems one or another. Kirk may be coming out to compile newer kernels soon.

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Also, according to this: https://community.acer.com/t5/E-F-and-M-Series-Laptops/ES1-132-cannot-install-other-OS-than-Windows-10-BIOS-options/m-p/490737/highlight/true#M15238 EFI install is specific for these models.
Tell me about it .... all UEFI BIOS **have** problems one way or another.


@Dr. Dan: I will test your script (in time ... hopefully soon).

I've uploaded the latest XFE. It requires updated FOX toolkit too, make sure you get 1.6.53 (if you do it from gslapt this should be automatic).

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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 15:38    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

all UEFI BIOS **have** problems one way or another.

fyi here is full log of my experiment:
1) i dd'ed official fatdog710 iso to flash drive.
2) booted it as usb hdd.
3) passed refind efi menu then grub menu.
4) at stage of loading initrd: "error: couldn't find suitable memory target" and kernel panic about missing initrd after 2 minutes of blank screen.
5) remastered iso with small initrd and dd'ed to flash.
6) new iso wasn't "visible" to uefi.
7) dd'ed official fatdog710 iso back to that flash drive.
8 ) copied vmlinuz, small initrd and fd64.sfs to another flash drive.
9) booted and at stage of grub manually specified boot from second flash drive via cli with args "basesfs=device:sdc1:fd64.sfs"
10) blank screen for more than 10 mins.
11) downloaded fatdog boot images for another kernels, repacked initrd with kernel_modules.sfs, copied to second flash drive and tried to boot them.
12) after several fails with other kernels, fatdog with kernel 4.7.1 boot succeeded after 2 mins of blinking cursor (which was different from blank screens from another kernels).
13) boot was very slow but finally resulted in X started.
14) as hardware is more newer than kernel, got mesa/gallium emulation of dri and not functional touchpad.
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