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smokey01


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 17:52    Post subject:  

For USB installs I prefer to format to ext2 and use a save folder.
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musher0


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 20:21    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
What's the difference between backing up a save file to another location versus a save folder? In either case, it's drag-and-drop.

If a savefile is X MB in size but only half-full, you are still backing up X MB. But a save folder is only as big as what it contains.

Hello, rcrsn51.

That depends on what tool you use for your back-up.

I don't drag and drop. I use SFR's PackIT, usually in lzop mode - maximum
compression. If I have a 1 Gb save file with nothing much in it, like soon
after I installed a Pup, I may get a ratio of 1/10th or even 1/15th -- since
2fs files and the like are basically uncompressed sfs's.

When the pupsave file gets fuller, one will likely get 50 % compression with
this method -- which is still quite respectable.

BFN.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 20:58    Post subject:  

Could you not do the same thing with a save folder? Tar it into one file, then compress it?
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 22:44    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Could you not do the same thing with a save folder? Tar it into one file, then compress it?
To each his own, I suppose.
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davids45


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Apr 2017, 18:59    Post subject: Frugals of both
Subject description: Manual 'install' to frugal partition
 

G'day Wildman69,

Quickly tried both your latest efforts.

Isos downloaded, mounted, and files copied to pre-named sub-directories on my Frugals partition (sda7).
Added appropriate new lines to Grub's menu.lst for my Frugals and booted each new Frugal. No problem.

I was surprised that each Pup was visually different in its first-run setting-up - both coming from woof-CE, I was expecting Stretch & Xenial to go through the same views but no, not the same pictures at all.

After creating a save-folder for each, I added my usual array of sfs (on sda7) and have had no problem with any sfs.

I installed a lm-sensors pet so pwidgets can report CPU temperature, etc.

I fixed my Gimp-2.8 problem of jpg files not being found by Gimp, by adding the missing lib files listed in running Gimp from a terminal - different libs needed between the two Pups.

I made a simple svg wallpaper with Trio's wallmaker (sfs) that included the Pup's name so I could easily see which Pup I was running (this also is on top of my pwidgets, but not in such a big font).

Substituted the drive icons for one of Mike Walsh's set, after removing the drive label from the initial set-up (not enough room for both drive name and label on my desktop computer).

Programs whose profiles or configs I run via symlinks to my data partition all look good, as well as my personal preference of browser+email, Seamonkey, which I run directly by a single symlink of its executable from my data partition to /usr/bin. I change the defaultbrowser and defaultemail in /usr/local/bin to seamonkey and 'seamonkey -mail' as well.

For simplicitiy, if not also efficiency, I then add icons to the pinboard/desktop of my frequently used programs.

My compliments to you for both these Pups - and of course, to BK and the woof-CE teams who probably have done all 'the hard metres' that simple users like me don't realise or too often forget about.

David S.

PS: Do I need to re-name your first xenialpup-7.0.6 to non-PAE as well as its different kernel to this later Xenial-7.0.6? Or have I got this back-to-front?
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Wildman69


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Apr 2017, 21:07    Post subject: xenial 7.0.6
Subject description: Specs
 

Greetings davids45 ,
Thank you for the feedback. Greatly appreciated.
The 7.0.6 build with the 4.1.30 has the PAE.
HAND

Yes and Many Thanks to The Folks at woof-CE for making it all possible.
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davids45


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Apr 2017, 19:29    Post subject: A little more testing of both  

G'day Wildman69,

First, I apologise for getting your name wrong in my wallpaper for the Deb Pup - it's now 69 not 68 Embarassed .

Both Pups displayed a warning from Debian when I installed some old .pets (see screenshot). Ignoring whatever this message meant and proceeding with the installs seemed OK as the .pets are running in both Pups. Is this a woof-CE issue?

I managed to crash the DebPup with Slimjet while over-vigorously playing Geoguessr (somewhere on an interesting trail in a mountainous North Thailand Forest Park) but on re-booting, the recovery process went through without dramas so I think that's a good result for the Pup.

I ran into a 'filter failed' error when trying to install my usb+network connected Epson XP-200 printer in the Deb Pup. I used a .pet of the Epson driver for this (epson_inkjet_printer_escpr-1.4.0.pet) as I can't work out how to set this up as an .sfs.
The same .pet install process was fine in the Xenial-706 Pup where I can print with my printer.
The scanner side of the printer is fine in both Pups as is the inkgui program that checks the ink left.
I've had this 'filter failed' problem before and need to look back at past threads to see what our forum's printer-miracle-worker rcrsn51 did to fix this problem for me. He must tire of us slow-learners.

Anyway, nothing really bad to report about your Pups so far.

Thanks,

David S.
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Wildman69


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PostPosted: Mon 03 Apr 2017, 23:11    Post subject:  

Greetings davids45,
The debian build is something I did for someone else. I am not that fluent in that flavor. Thus I did not know about the reported issues. Apologies for my exuberance. I got carried away.

All I can take credit for is fingering out the woof-CE.
I am currently running my xenial 7.0.6 with the 4.9.13 kernel and the only program I can not get to run is the googleearth 7 sfs; the 6 works fine though. In the long run I can Update my system when I'm ready as I go.
Gotta Love Puppy.

Thank You Mr. Barry Kauler.

I myself would like to see a return to a straight puppy, like 4.3.1; before it got tied to the other distros.
Ahh! The good old days.
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8Geee


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Location: N.E. USA

PostPosted: Tue 04 Apr 2017, 15:00    Post subject:  

About that epson printer fail...
Two things to check

/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.7.0.0 (is it there or just a symlink?)
/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.44.0 or 0.57.0

These two are used for printing, even though there are other versions of the same file (libjpeg.so.8, and libpng14.so) used for other stuff. I had a heck of a time figuring out this problem, even after reverting bash in my recent slacko5.7 spins.

HTH
8Geee

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