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Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - December, 2016
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sindi

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PostPosted: Thu 23 Mar 2017, 22:56    Post subject: b43 NOT found in sulu1 this time, works n tahr
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This time Sulu1 could NOT connect with b43 on DELL B130 laptop, but it still could with Tahr 6.0.5 (SNS).
Perhaps it would do so in Sulu1 if I rebooted directly to it like I think I did before.

Let me know whether to send pdiag files for b43 in sulu1 or retro-kernel lucid.
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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 00:32    Post subject:  

Just a general note - The official puppy releases will give the least problems. I stick with Wary, Racy, Precise, Tahr.
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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 08:37    Post subject:  

Puppy is all about choice.
I like Lucid as well.

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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 12:16    Post subject: SuperSulu PPM choose archives  

SuperSulu PPM choose archives to get packages and dependancies downloaded
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 14:49    Post subject:  

@sindi: The WiFi trouble-shooting checklist here may be helpful.
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rerwin


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PostPosted: Fri 24 Mar 2017, 23:42    Post subject: Re: Acer TravelMate 4000/TravelMate 4000, BIOS 3A03 07/07/20  

sindi,
Thanks for the pdiag via PM -- for the 2004 Acer 4001LCI? It shows indications of 3 separate wifi or ethernet cards. SNS shows "eth4|Wireless|orinoco_cs|pcmcia". Frisbee shows "interface: eth3". No information was captured for netwiz -- I am updating pdiag to get that info.

The messages log shows the Broadcom device in only 3 messages:
    b44 0000:02:02.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKD] -> GSI 6 (level, low) -> IRQ 6
    ssb: Core 0 found: Fast Ethernet (cc 0x806, rev 0x04, vendor 0x4243)
    ssb: Core 1 found: V90 (cc 0x807, rev 0x01, vendor 0x4243)
    ssb: Core 2 found: PCI (cc 0x804, rev 0x02, vendor 0x4243)
    ssb: Sonics Silicon Backplane found on PCI device 0000:02:02.0
    b44: Broadcom 44xx/47xx 10/100 PCI ethernet driver version 2.0
    b44 ssb0:0: eth0: Broadcom 44xx/47xx 10/100 PCI ethernet driver 00:c0:9f:45:13:7d
So, it was detected but not used. But later the messages:
    udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth2
    udev: renamed network interface eth1 to eth3
So, the Broadcom b44 is now eth2 and the IPW2200 eth3. The last eth2 message is "eth2: waiting for carrier". But eth3 got a carrier -- was that with frisbee?

My understanding is that we are trying to get the "b43" card working. It appears to use the b44 driver instead of b43. I think we need to try to get it working without any other wifi card present. I think this is the first time I have seen a b44, so I would like to work with it in isolation.

The bigger issue, though, is the presence of multiple wifi cards.

Back to SNS and the Orinoco card, that must be a leftover that would confuse the connect wizard and its friends -- without the net_setup-20170316-lucid package you installed.

What next? Can you remove the ipw2200 (and any other wifi card) and leave only the Broadcom b44 card in the laptop? Then avoid confounding the experiment by running only the network wizard. Specifically:
    - Boot sulu2 to a fresh pupsave.
    - Install the net_setup-20170316-lucid package (available at
    http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=948712&sid=613af106564ae9dc1be0352b62400800#948712)
    - Install the pdiag update package, attached.
    - Using the "connect" desktop icon, start the network wizard.
    - Select the appropriate interface button and Network Wizard.
    - Configure the wireless network and click on 'Auto DHCP'.
    - Wait until a connection is made or fails.
    - If it fails, run pdiag and stop; otherwise reboot, creating a new pupsave file.
    - If the connection is not started during he reboot, run pdiag and stop.
    - If the connection is up, try disconnecting and then reconnecting, using a right-click on the network tray icon; expect it to take a minute or two to reconnect.
For either of the ipw2200 or orinoco cards, you can do the same exercise with them -- individually. To avoid confusion, please run these exercises on the same laptop, so we don't get fooled by differences among the laptops.

Once we have established which of the cards can be made to work in sulu2, we can work on the issue of multiple wifi cards with SNS, netwiz and frisbee. I have a more complete net_setup package built for tahr and xenial pups and am about to backport the logic to a version for lucid pups. That will be the basis for changes to support multiple cards. I believe that all of the network managers assume there is only one connection to the internet. It will be interesting to see how the other connections are handled by each manager.
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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Mar 2017, 02:20    Post subject: 5287 causes laptop to run hot  

Hi to all,

Trying out Revitalised Lupu is ok but....
Starting first thing in the morning with a stone cold laptop,
then booting and running 5287 flashdrive just to desktop has
the cooling fan tearing out its bearings in only a few minutes.

Something in the code structure must be making this
dual-core cpu work very hard to run so hot in no time.
This situation can't be tolerated guys!

What a relief to return to a Slacko 6.3 flashdrive again.
Fan is now back to a gentle tickover speed.

Regards.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Mar 2017, 16:05    Post subject: b43 SOMETIMES works perfectly with lupu-retro and sulu1 ?///  

DELL Inspiron B130.
Yesterday b43 did not work with lucid-retro (all 3 wizards) then it
did with sulu1 (SNS) then it did NOT with sulu1 and not with retro.

So today I was hoping to send pdiag for b43 with retro kernel but it just worked perfectly with SNS, Frisbee and Network Wizard in that order.

I will try to follow instructions above after we get back from hardware store. I have not been notified every time someone replies here.
(Trying to build a house when not playing with linux).

b44 is ethernet (I think in both Acer and Dell). Orinoco pcmcia and ipw2200 mini-PCI were both in Acer but I can test one at a time later.
eth and wlan have new numbers for each added card. Up to eth7 at one time.

Tahr is not as usable on my older computers because it insists on more
than 512MB RAM. It chooses memory-intensive programs. Also checks the whole partition each time it boots (from a 4GB slow drive).

The B130 in theory should work with a 1.6GHz Pentium M socket 479 but would not boot so we put back the 1.4GHz. Computer commented that it had been overheated. Fried 1.6GHz cpu? 1.4GHz is just barely fast enough for Flash most of the time. Review commented on the quiet fan. No dust. Runs pretty cool with lupu2016 and fan is often off.
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sindi

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PostPosted: Sat 25 Mar 2017, 16:09    Post subject: run pdiag before or after network wizards?  

I think you originally said to run pdiag BEFORE the network wizards and this time to run it after. I ran it before.

My results are not reproducible. This last time I booted straight to Lucid-retro from off and it worked. Yesterday I did the same and it did not work.

I will test the B130 with b43, lucid-retro, and sulu1. Do I also need sulu2?
Tahr is on here too. Drive is full.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 Apr 2017, 23:59    Post subject: Super Lucid 3.0.25, Precord missing  

Super Lucid 3.0.25, Precord missing...
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2017, 13:08    Post subject: sulu2 with framebuffer console  

Having demonstrated the superiority of sulu2 for Xorg and also for using b43 mini-PCI cards (they require 3.2 or later kernel for the firmware to load
consistently), I asked rerwin for help getting framebuffer console to work. He said kernel config is in /etc/modules/DOT*.

I compared lupu2016 (kernel 2.6) and sulu2 (kernel 3.2) and found the significant difference. FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE_DETECT_PRIMARY is set to N in the 2.6
kernel and Y in the 3.2 kernel. The latter will 'select primary display device' as console (VGA) and the former will 'select first framebuffer device
loaded'.

Lupu loads fbcon and associated modules during boot (or maybe as part of the kernel), so lupu2016 loads fbcon (first framebuffer device) while sulu2 loads
VGA console (primary display device). If I understood correctly.

According to kernel config help, to bypass the 'Y' setting add after the pfix=XXX (end of that line) fbcon=map:

Kernel config may give clues to why certain network cards work in puppy 4 but not lupu. Xircom 16-bit and cardbus 2-slot ethernet are two such cards.
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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2017, 14:28    Post subject: Re: 5287 causes laptop to run hot  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi to all,

Trying out Revitalised Lupu is ok but....
Starting first thing in the morning with a stone cold laptop,
then booting and running 5287 flashdrive just to desktop has
the cooling fan tearing out its bearings in only a few minutes.

Something in the code structure must be making this
dual-core cpu work very hard to run so hot in no time.
This situation can't be tolerated guys!

What a relief to return to a Slacko 6.3 flashdrive again.
Fan is now back to a gentle tickover speed.

Regards.


Sorry to bring up an older post,..but I just now saw this. Just this morning I was trying to revive an old Dell Optiplex 270 (about 2.8 Ghz--1G ram). I put 5287 on it ,....and when I booted into the newly installed system,..it did just what you described! The fan sounded like it was trying to take off into orbit. When I installed Racy 550 on it,...the fan was fairly quiet. Shocked

EDIT: Yea!!! I revitalized an older (2005) IBM Lenovo ThinkCentre with Lupu 5287,....and it works great on that computer! Really flies.
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