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Chloe X-Tahr
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Moat
 Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Chloe X-Tahr is just my fat, amateur-ish, heavily re-mastered X-Tahr 2.0, by the Master Xfce Pup guru, rg66 - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=99849 Lots of eye candy (themes, icons, fonts, wallpapers, custom default Greenbird Gtk2/3 theme [looks proper in late Firefox] w/Whisker menu decorations, etc), Firefox 51.0.1 w/my preferred selection of addons and about:config tweaks, games, Gimp, cairo clock, Pwidgets... and quite a bit more. Why she's a fattie. 
Pretty close to what I think a Pup could/should be OOTB. Not perfect by any means - I had spent quite a bit of time months ago polishing away at it - only to discover a seemingly insurmountable issue (for noobish me, anyways) with Gimp creating un-explainable whiteout files in /root/.thumbnails/normal... so I just sorta ran out of steam. And here it sits - just thought I'd throw it out here, for anybody whom may be interested. 
When running frugally with a savefile (my preference), it'll default to no periodic saves, and ask at shutdown with a 10 second timeout without saving - so a relativly quick shutdown process that leaves the savefile "pristine", by default. Select shutdown, and walk away. The custom Whisker theme will eventually go all wonky if you switch to a different Gtk theme than the default Greenbird - in that case, delete the .gtkrc-2.0 file in the /root/ directory, and rename the orig.gtkrc-2.0 file back to .gtkrc-2.0 - then refresh the desktop via the purple-ish far-right tray button... Whisker should then pick up the new theme. A spare copy of the deleted Greenbird/Whisker .gtkrc-2.0 file can be found in the /usr/share/themes/Greenbird/ directory, if you want to go back. Another Whisker .gtkrc-2.0 theme similarly exists for the custom Tempora theme, as well. Check out the tweaked Clearlooks window titlebar buttons' 'prelight' color changes... I modified a number of the window manager themes to do that prelight/pressed thing. Surprised all themes don't have that feature enabled, as it's available/supported...!?! Hopefully this link will work - https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfb78xruq2l65k5/Chloe_X-Tahr_2.0r9.iso?dl=0 MD5sum should be fc785aec85f5f04752f361584a0d5ef0 I'm not very active here these days (not that I ever was in the first place), but any feedback appreciated. Hope somebody might like this little fattie! 
Bob
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ally
 Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 1919 Location: lincoln, uk |
mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_Chloe
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Fantastic! Thanks, ally!!! I'm honored! 
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ally
Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 1919 Location: lincoln, uk |
you're very welcome
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Colonel Panic
 Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2109 |
Thanks for this one. I downloaded it yesterday and it's working well except that I can't get sound to work on it (and that's not a deal-breaker since I could do with a quiet Pup for night time), BTW, I really like the title bar font - very much like Saluki's (it may even be the same one). _________________ Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (AMD Athlon 3800+, 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive) running Sparky 2019.08 (current), Absolute 64, Mint Debian 3.0, Siduction 18.3.0, VLocity 7.2, Puppy Fatdog 8.0.2 and Pardus 17.5 Deepin. |
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Hi Colonel - thanks for giving it a spin!
Interesting. Have you fussed with the ALSA or Retroval wizards at all, in an attempt to get sound up and running? Aside from such basic initial tweaks, I can't think of anything I've done that would have broken sound... it should all be the same as rg66's stock X-Tahr, underneath. Working on all of my boxes around here (with a tweak here or there), so far. Hmmm...
Yes - Cherry Cream Soda is the font, and is the same as Saluki/Carolina. Modern and "playful", yet perfectly legible and classy - my fav titlebar font, for sure. Hope you otherwise enjoy Chloe X-Tahr - the little desktop tweaks and aesthetic polish, Firefox's set-up, and extra applications. Sorry about it's size - there were a few small programs I installed via PPM, and they just so happened to pull in a few huge libs... but I wanted the apps, so left it all as-is. Thanks!
Bob
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°) |
ah i am excited by screenshots, and the menu graphics. Chloe will be my next test-bench.. "very much like Saluki's (it may even be the same one). " that would be perfect.. 
Ally when wireless better. Feed back next days. 448mbs ! _________________ Passenger Pelo ! don't ask him to repair the aircraft. Don't use him as a demining dog .... pleeease. Last edited by Pelo on Tue 26 Sep 2017, 07:44; edited 1 time in total |
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Colonel Panic
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2109 |
You're welcome. It's worth it - you've clearly put a lot of work into it.
Yes, I have, and still no dice. Sorry.
If it's any consolation, I can't be sure that X-Tahr would work either. One thing I've learnt from posting here (and reading blogs like Dedoimedo's) is that computers are very individual things - what works on one won't necessarily work on another. It's probably one reason why I've never wanted to produce a Puppy derivative myself (at least not for general release).
Yes, I think it's mine too.
I'm sure I will - and as I said, I could do with a Pup for night time when it's important that I not disturb my neighbours, especially since I can't turn off my desktop speakers at the moment (long story).
Not a problem at all, as long as it fits on a CD. In fact I've also run EMSee's Ultra distros, which weigh in at more than 2 gigabytes.
You're welcome! I also like the choice of clocks. Here's a song which might be appropriate; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkUsUKZefy0 Cheers, CP . _________________ Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (AMD Athlon 3800+, 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive) running Sparky 2019.08 (current), Absolute 64, Mint Debian 3.0, Siduction 18.3.0, VLocity 7.2, Puppy Fatdog 8.0.2 and Pardus 17.5 Deepin. |
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Colonel Panic
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2109 |
P.S. One last thing Moat - did you by any chance turn off Javascript in Firefox? It's easily enabled if you need to (and I needed it to log into my e-mail provider), but given the choice I'd prefer to have the option of being able to turn it on or off from a toolbar, as you can if you install an extension like QuickJS; https://www.ghacks.net/2013/07/30/how-to-disable-javascript-in-firefox/ _________________ Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (AMD Athlon 3800+, 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive) running Sparky 2019.08 (current), Absolute 64, Mint Debian 3.0, Siduction 18.3.0, VLocity 7.2, Puppy Fatdog 8.0.2 and Pardus 17.5 Deepin. |
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Yes, but a toolbar extension is already there... notice the red "JS", "F" and "A" buttons on FF's toolbar, just right of the address bar - simply click the "JS" to toggle to blue, enabling JavaScript. "F" is for Flashplayer, "A" is animated images - all part of the Quick Java addon (it has other options available in the Menu>Add-ons>Extensions>Preferences menu, as well). It's a simple, handy addon. Red for "off", blue for "on" - and can be set to automatically re-load the page when toggled, too. BTW, I have Firefox set to cache completely in RAM - it'll save passwords, cookies and browsing history, but empties all other cached page data on closing - flushing baddies/bugs. A tiny bit slower to load re-visited pages on fast connections (meh - barely noticable), but worth it unless on very low-speed connection or dial-up, for the security and session space saved.
Love the Elton John - beautiful, tasteful guitar solo!
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Ha, yeah - I think I know what you mean. I was quite hesitant to "release" this Pup, as I have neither the expertise or time/energy to adequately support it (eh... it's essentially rg66's X-Tahr, so what applies here mostly applies there anyway). But at the same time, I think I've accomplished enough neat little things with it that it may, at least, be of some interest/use to others around here - maybe even inspiring somebody who actually knows what they're doing to incorporate some of these ideas into a more "official" Puppy release.
Everybody's ideas and needs are different, of course, but I think this Pup is especially likable in that I can boot to a $0.30 CD, import my bookmarks from the cloud, and immediately get right on with doing what I want/need to do, in a comfortable, complete and snappy computing environment - already set up just how I like it. For those with same/similar needs and preferences, this Pup could be a really good choice. For what it's all worth! Bob |
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Colonel Panic
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2109 |
More bad news I'm afraid Bob - both Firefox and Seamonkey crashed and kept on crashing as soon as they were started. In the end I deleted the savefile and will start again tonight with a fresh one. (This is, to be fair, a problem I've also had with other Pups than Chloe, and there's no suggestion otherwise.) _________________ Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (AMD Athlon 3800+, 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive) running Sparky 2019.08 (current), Absolute 64, Mint Debian 3.0, Siduction 18.3.0, VLocity 7.2, Puppy Fatdog 8.0.2 and Pardus 17.5 Deepin. |
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Seamonkey from the PPM? Maybe a conflict of some sort - if I get some time, I'll install Seamonkey and try to reproduce. Hmmm... I wonder if the same happens on a clean X-Tahr... By itself, Firefox has been running perfectly here. Damn! 
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Colonel Panic
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2109 |
Thanks for replying Bob.
No, extracted from the tar.bz2 file. I could only get version 2.26 from the PPM. I'm trying it that way this time round to see if it makes a difference, only using software I've installed from the PPM, and so far (touch wood) it's been OK.
To be honest I'm puzzled as to what's going on. All I was doing was extracting seamonkey and thunderbird to the my-applications folder, so it shouldn't have made a difference. However, I'd say don't bother with it on my account. If I get any more crashes from the programs I've installed in the orthodox way (using the PPM), then maybe it would be worth your time looking into it. Best, CP . _________________ Packard Bell iMedia 6020 (AMD Athlon 3800+, 4 GB of RAM, 250 GB hard drive) running Sparky 2019.08 (current), Absolute 64, Mint Debian 3.0, Siduction 18.3.0, VLocity 7.2, Puppy Fatdog 8.0.2 and Pardus 17.5 Deepin. |
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Moat
Joined: 16 Jul 2013 Posts: 966 Location: Mid-mitten |
Hi Colonel - glad you seem to have gotten it sorted, via the PPM's Seamonkey. I've just now had the time to give this a play; Downloaded the seamonkey-2.46.tar.bz2 from the official website, extracted to /root/my-applications/, and fired off the 127.0 kB seamonkey executable from there (or an absolute symlink placed on the desktop) - and as you can see in the screenshot, both are running fine so far in my brief testing. No idea what may be the issue for you!?!
This is running the liveCD with an ext4 savefile on the laptop's HD. Bob
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