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#501 Post by Robert123 »

Wow made the changes and booted to a vesa like desktop with the wrong resolution and my connection with SNS was stuffed up so rebooted with the following change


# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.2
color white/blue black/cyan white/black cyan/black
#splashimage=/splash.xpm
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

# Full installed Linux

title Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1 (sda2/boot)
uuid 1f2a5e67-6206-4f3f-ad5a-4e911013fc9d
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ro radeon.modeset=1
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#502 Post by rcrsn51 »

When you had those boot options on separate lines, they were not doing ANYTHING.

Once you put them on the kernel line where they belong, they are doing SOMETHING, but it may not be what you want.

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#503 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

Here is an easy remedy for the Debianized gcc's "pie", SYN file-type
instead of EXEC file-type, bug,

Fire up your editor and add the following line as the last alias in your
/root/.bashrc file:

Code: Select all

alias cnfgr="configure CFLAGS\='-no-pie' CXXFLAGS\='-no-pie'"
Please notice how the equal signs are escaped within the expression.
Save, exit your text editor and type

Code: Select all

source ~/.bashrc
in console to activate it. (Alternatively, you can restart X or reboot.)

(That solution was found and shared by mavrothal, here.)

Now, next time you wish to compile some code, you simply type < cnfgr >
instead of the full

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./configure CFLAGS='-no-pie' CXXFLAGS='-no-pie
Plus the required parameters, such as --prefix=/usr, etc.

Of course, one could select a different word as an alias. I chose "cnfgr"
because it's the word "configure" with the vowels squeezed out. It's easy
to remember and hard to confuse with any other word.

IHTH.

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Reminder -- You can also use elfedit to rectify an already compiled hybrid
executable, as mentioned by OscarTalks here.
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#504 Post by Billtoo »

I did a manual frugal install to the usb-3.0 hard drive, computer is a
HP mini which is connected to a 32" TV by hdmi cable.

# inxi -F
System: Host: puppypc17808 Kernel: 4.9.20-4G i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial:
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial:
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
clock speeds: max: 1400 MHz 1: 1000 MHz 2: 1000 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: intel tty size: 122x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1 Intel 8 Series HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA v: k4.9.20-4G
Card-2 Intel Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac:
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n
IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1166.5GB (1.2% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_SDSA6MM size: 32.0GB
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Overdrive_3.0 size: 126.3GB
ID-3: /dev/sdc model: MQ01ABD100 size: 1000.2GB
ID-4: USB /dev/sdd model: USB_Flash_Drive size: 8.0GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdc2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 177 Uptime: 1:06 Memory: 149.2/1917.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
#
No problems so far.
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#505 Post by Billtoo »

I did a new build, it's using the 4.4.60 kernel:

# inxi -F
System: Host: puppypc12117 Kernel: 4.4.60-4g i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Gateway model: FX6860 serial:
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 04/19/2011
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-2600 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
clock speeds: max: 3401 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1800 MHz 3: 2000 MHz 4: 2200 MHz 5: 1800 MHz 6: 2200 MHz
7: 1800 MHz 8: 1600 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia tty size: 145x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1 NVIDIA GF110 High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.60-4g
Card-2 Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
IF: wlan0 state: down mac:
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac:
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (2.0% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDS72302 size: 2000.4GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 17.18GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 212 Uptime: 34 min Memory: 237.5/3018.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
#

I'm using the proprietary nvidia driver.
I don't need to use "intel_pstate=disable" in the kernel line, the
CPU Frequency Scaling Tool works fine and defaults to Ondemand.

*********************************************************************
EDIT:
I did another build that uses the 4.9.22 kernel:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc4677 Kernel: 4.9.22-4g i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Gateway model: FX6860 serial:
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 04/19/2011
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-2600 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3401 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia tty size: 133x43 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (2.3% used)
Info: Processes: 242 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 174.9/3017.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
#

The 4.4.60 kernel has also been updated to 4.4.61
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#506 Post by musher0 »

Hi gang.

Great rock guitarists and famous classical pianists practice their scales
every day. It's what makes them great.

Have you noticed? Billtoo is a virtuoso too, but instead of doing scales, he
woofes Puppies !!! :D ;)

BFN.
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#507 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

I just asked two questions about RAM usage in Puppy Stretch here.
(belham2's thread)

If you could kindly have a read and see if you've experienced similar
concerns?

TIA, BFN.
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#508 Post by Robert123 »

So what is wrong with Vlc. Why is it not playing mp4's - what is missing ???
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#509 Post by Billtoo »

I did a fresh install of woof-CE and did a build of Stretch-7.0.0a1,
it's using the 4.9.22-pae kernel compiled with the kernel kit.

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc21485 Kernel: 4.9.22-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6
Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial:
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: Hexa core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 110x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (9.0% used)
Info: Processes: 188 Uptime: 1:10 Memory: 229.2/8091.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
#

Installed packages show as shared libs, Vlc,Kodi, etc work well.

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#510 Post by OscarTalks »

Stll experimenting with manually remastering the version posted some time ago.
Some people have commented about JWM
I have always liked it.
The configuration methods are changed in these recent JWM versions
Some of the tags are different so the jwmrc-theme file and also the jwmrc template file in /etc/xdg/templates need modification. Not sure if this has been done in WoofCE yet.
Use jwm -p to test for config errors.

Dpup Stretch has JWM 2.3.6 which is latest release but I have compiled snapshot 1592 which is 2.3.7 dev.

I did some corrections and tweaks to the DeepBlueBold theme which was the only one included in the .iso and I implemented the decorations="motif" attribute which gives it a look which some may find quite elegant.
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#511 Post by Billtoo »

I did another build, this one is using the 3.16.43 kernel compiled with
the kernel kit.

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc22402 Kernel: 3.16.43-4g i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: Dpup Stretch 7.0.0a1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: p7-1246s serial:
Mobo: Foxconn model: 2ADA v: 1.00 BIOS: AMI v: 7.12 date: 06/07/2012
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i5-3550 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3301 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia tty size: 132x42 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (1.1% used)
Info: Processes: 134 Uptime: 36 min Memory: 187.1/3515.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
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The proprietary Nvidia driver is installed.

All installed applications show up as shared libs, kodi,vlc, etc work
well.
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#512 Post by rufwoof »

I've seen a few desktop pictures like yours Billtoo, extra wide. Is that because you have a extra wide monitor/resolution (3200x900 perhaps)? Looks like it from your 4 desktops in the desktop pager.

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#513 Post by Billtoo »

rufwoof wrote:I've seen a few desktop pictures like yours Billtoo, extra wide. Is that because you have a extra wide monitor/resolution (3200x900 perhaps)? Looks like it from your 4 desktops in the desktop pager.

Hi,

I'm using 2 monitors, configured with arandr.
JWM defaults to 4 desktops, I just now changed the setting to 2 virtual
desktops.
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#514 Post by rufwoof »

Thanks

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#515 Post by musher0 »

OscarTalks wrote:Stll experimenting with manually remastering the version posted some time ago.
Some people have commented about JWM
I have always liked it.
The configuration methods are changed in these recent JWM versions
Some of the tags are different so the jwmrc-theme file and also the jwmrc template file in /etc/xdg/templates need modification. Not sure if this has been done in WoofCE yet.
Use jwm -p to test for config errors.

Dpup Stretch has JWM 2.3.6 which is latest release but I have compiled snapshot 1592 which is 2.3.7 dev.

I did some corrections and tweaks to the DeepBlueBold theme which was the only one included in the .iso and I implemented the decorations="motif" attribute which gives it a look which some may find quite elegant.
Such patience you have with jwm, OscarTalks... :lol:
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#516 Post by musher0 »

Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.
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#517 Post by Billtoo »

musher0 wrote:Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.
You need to compile it with the kernel kit, I'll attach my build.conf to save you some time.
Once it has created the woof-CE/kernel-kit/output/huge-3.16.43-stretch.tar.bz2 put it in the huge_kernel folder and when you get to the ./3builddistro step it will use it, if there are more it will be among those that you can choose from.

The gz is a fake, just rename it.
It will also compile the kernel source sfs and a kernel modules file that I rename to fdrv_stretch_i686.sfs

Edit: you'll see j6 in the build.conf when I'm using my dual core compaq I set that to j2
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#518 Post by OscarTalks »

Billtoo wrote:You need to compile it with the kernel kit
Hello Billtoo,

The Stretch remaster that I am tinkering with and is working very well is based on the one you posted with the 3.14.79 kernel.

Do you by any chance have the kernel sources for this?
It might be nice to see if I can at least compile ndiswrapper for example.
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#519 Post by Billtoo »

OscarTalks wrote:
Billtoo wrote:You need to compile it with the kernel kit
Hello Billtoo,

The Stretch remaster that I am tinkering with and is working very well is based on the one you posted with the 3.14.79 kernel.

Do you by any chance have the kernel sources for this?
It might be nice to see if I can at least compile ndiswrapper for example.
Hi,

I did 3.16.43, that's the LTS kernel that's good until 2020 or so.

I think you can get the 3.14.79 kernel sources from ttuuxxx.

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#520 Post by musher0 »

Billtoo wrote:
musher0 wrote:Hi Billtoo.

Where did you find that 3.14.63 kernel for the Puppy Stretch, please? I
couldn't find it in the "huge-kernels" section at ibblio.

Also, I just built the newer Puppy Stretch, like you did, and it seems to offer
only the 4.1.38 kernel.

Thanks in advance.
You need to compile it with the kernel kit, I'll attach my build.conf to save you some time.
Once it has created the woof-CE/kernel-kit/output/huge-3.16.43-stretch.tar.bz2 put it in the huge_kernel folder and when you get to the ./3builddistro step it will use it, if there are more it will be among those that you can choose from.

The gz is a fake, just rename it.
It will also compile the kernel source sfs and a kernel modules file that I rename to fdrv_stretch_i686.sfs

Edit: you'll see j6 in the build.conf when I'm using my dual core compaq I set that to j2
I'm always learning, I guess. Thanks Billtoo.
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