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#41 Post by bigpup »

Slacko 6.9.6.7 (32 bit)

This computer has 16GB of memory.
All reporting programs show 2GB.

A non pae kernel should see 4GB of memory or something close to it.
Correct????

Report from Pup-Sysinfo
Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 2096 MB
Used RAM: 955 MB
Free RAM: 1141 MB
Buffers: 92 MB
Cached: 766 MB
Total Swap: 0 MB
Free Swap: 0 MB

Actual Used RAM: 97 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 1999 MB Free + (buffers + cached)


Memory Module 1
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB


Memory Module 2
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
This computer does not have a swap partition or file.

Why are kernels not made to be PAE?
They should be able to still work on computers with 4GB or less memory.
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#42 Post by bigpup »

Slacko64 6.9.6.7 (64 bit)

More info on graphics problem at boot.
At boot up when it gets to starting X.
Get errors and X does not start.
Type xwin
It seems to go to next step where nouveau driver takes over, but stops with start x errors.
Type xwin
Boots to working desktop.
This does happen when the xorg.conf is being accessed at boot up.

Maybe something here is a clue :idea:

From xerrs.log:
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
nvc0_screen_create:762 - Error allocating PGRAPH context for M2MF: -22
EGL_MESA_drm_image required.
/usr/bin/jwm
libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile
acpi daemon stopped.
Looking in '/etc/xdg/parcellite/parcelliterc'
Looking in '/etc/xdg/parcellite/parcelliterc'
Looking in '/etc/xdg/parcellite/parcelliterc'
Flag 0x0001, status 256, EXIT 1 STAT 1
acpi daemon started.
/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_funcs: line 451: [: too many arguments
/usr/local/pup_event/frontend_funcs: line 459: [: -lt: unary operator expected
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#43 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

I compiled a few things in Slacko64 6.9.6.7 today with it's devx for the lolz, like sidplayer (attached). :)

When zipping, typing these two commands failed with a "/bin/sh: compress: command not found" error:

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tar -cvZf name.tar.gz *
tar -cvJf name.tar.xz *
But doing it the long way instead worked:

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tar -cvf name.tar *
gzip name.tar

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tar -cvf name.tar *
xz -v9e name.tar
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#44 Post by 01micko »

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
01micko wrote:
Sailor Enceladus wrote:6.9.6.7-p 32bit is working good here so far for me too. The new flat icons are interesting. Except for not being able to open a rar I downloaded today in Rox/Xarchive (used the pet here to fix which I had laying around), I have no bugs to report... yet. :)
Unfortunately your pet for rar will break 7z extraction, however with some imagination it could be easily fixed :)
I am using your Slacko64 6.9.6.7 now (it's working nicely) and was able to open and extract both rar and 7z after I loaded the pet (7z seemed to use the 7za wrapper while rar used the 7z wrapper), perhaps both only still works for me by chance? :lol: What was the error you got? I'm quite sure there's a smarter way to do it though.
No, no.. I thought it would conflict.. but no.. old eyes :shock: .

As a matter of fact I added cbr and cbz as extensions.. (comic archives) but then I discovered they open perfectly in evince! (xarchive does open them with your wrapper so i left cbr and cbz there in case someone deletes evince for some reason). The wrapper will be in the next release.
Sailor Enceladus wrote:

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tar -cvZf name.tar.gz * 
Um.. try lower case 'z'. Works forever here.. and upper 'J' is fine for tar.xz.

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@rerwin.. I am testing the next version now and connection is now working at first boot. Thanks

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bigpup. RAM figures can be distorted for a number of reasons. I bet that beast has integrated graphics. Try this script and let me know how much RAM your graphics chip sucks up. Name it chk_vram.sh (or something), give it exec permission and run it on the CLI. If it works tell radke to include it in Pup-SysInfo :wink: Also the kernel and stuff sucks up some ram before the system proper starts. The shipped kernel has 4G enabled. I'm not being drawn into a PAE debate again. I will however ship a delta that changes the kernel in 64 bit back to 3.16x. That is the one you should run to keep your system happy. (NB: PAE only allows up to 4GB of RAM to be used by any one application. Just because it 'sees' all your RAM doesn't mean it actually uses it. 64 bit OS doesn't have this issue.)

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#!/bin/sh

# checks video memory size

CARD_ID=$(lspci | grep -i 'vga' | grep -o '^[0-9].*\.[0-9]')
lspci -v -s $CARD_ID | grep -v 'non-prefetchable' | grep -o 'size=.*[A-Z]'
As for video woes, that snippet gives no clue at all. There are ways to upload a tarball with all the info I need. Pup-Sysinfo is a clue. :wink:
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#45 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

01micko wrote:Um.. try lower case 'z'. Works forever here.. and upper 'J' is fine for tar.xz.
01micko: lol you're right! -cvzf works, and so does -cvJf. Don't know why I messed that up and used Z... "PEBKAC" :lol:

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#46 Post by Billtoo »

Google earth is run from the Google Chrome browser now, displays perfectly on this intel chip, all earlier Google Earth versions have problems with intel graphics (dark blocks all through the screen).

Nice :)
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#47 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

The JWM 2.3.x "clicking on the menu freezes the desktop" bug still happens for me occasionally in Slacko64 6.9.6.7 (where a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is usually required to regain any response when clicking on things). It doesn't seem computer specific because I'm on a newer Core2Duo laptop at the moment, using the default theme that came with the iso. I might compile a 64-bit version of jwm-905 today too then. I've also had the problem happen with Tahr and Xenialpup and Slacko632 with JWM 2.3.x.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109637

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anyone know about this?

#48 Post by belham2 »

Hi all,

I went to use "SFS-Download-Manager-0.14" that's included in Slacko-700b3 (32-bit) to download one of the SFS-options, specifically the "qt4-4.8.7_slacko-7.0.sfs" that pops up as a choice to download.

So I hit download, and it downloaded to the expected /mnt/home directory, but then it popped up a failed-integrity-check message. Anyone know what's up with this? Is it safe to use, lol?? Or is it just that's it hopelessly outdated now as mostly everything requires some form of qt5?

Thanks for any replies.
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#49 Post by Billtoo »

It works in this newer build of Slacko64 6.9.9.1
I guess 01micko fixed it.

EDIT: OOPS, didn't read carefully, you're talking about the 32bit Slacko beta, I haven't tried that one lately.

EDIT2: I just did a woof-CE build (rationalise branch) of the 32bit beta 6.9.9.1 and it has the same error that you're seeing in 32bit b3.
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#50 Post by norgo »

Sailor Enceladus wrote:The JWM 2.3.x "clicking on the menu freezes the desktop" bug still happens for me occasionally in Slacko64 6.9.6.7 (where a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is usually required to regain any response when clicking on things). It doesn't seem computer specific because I'm on a newer Core2Duo laptop at the moment, using the default theme that came with the iso. I might compile a 64-bit version of jwm-905 today too then. I've also had the problem happen with Tahr and Xenialpup and Slacko632 with JWM 2.3.x.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109637
I'm using currently Slacko-6.9.6.7 testing branch 2017-05-15 kernel 4.1.11 PAE and
can confirm the desktop freezing problem.
It happens very rarely but it happens.
Yesterday I had once again such a desktop freeze.
Had two applications opened and clicked at the window of the inactive application.
After that the only way was to restart the xserver using Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.

Up to now it happened on both of my computers,
both are using an intel graphics chip.

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#51 Post by bigpup »

01micko wrote:I'm not being drawn into a PAE debate again. I will however ship a delta that changes the kernel in 64 bit back to 3.16x.
The memory issue was in the 32bit version of Slacko.
The 64bit version is working correctly and seeing all memory.

This computer does have integrated graphics. It has a Intel i5 processor.
However, the integrated graphics is not being used.
A Geforce GTX 970 graphics card with 4GB of memory is providing graphics.
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#52 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

norgo wrote:
Sailor Enceladus wrote:The JWM 2.3.x "clicking on the menu freezes the desktop" bug still happens for me occasionally in Slacko64 6.9.6.7 (where a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is usually required to regain any response when clicking on things). It doesn't seem computer specific because I'm on a newer Core2Duo laptop at the moment, using the default theme that came with the iso. I might compile a 64-bit version of jwm-905 today too then. I've also had the problem happen with Tahr and Xenialpup and Slacko632 with JWM 2.3.x.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109637
I'm using currently Slacko-6.9.6.7 testing branch 2017-05-15 kernel 4.1.11 PAE and
can confirm the desktop freezing problem.
It happens very rarely but it happens.
Yesterday I had once again such a desktop freeze.
Had two applications opened and clicked at the window of the inactive application.
After that the only way was to restart the xserver using Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.

Up to now it happened on both of my computers,
both are using an intel graphics chip.
Thanks norgo. Both of mine are intel graphics too! I wonder if there is a connection. :)
01micko wrote:I will however ship a delta that changes the kernel in 64 bit back to 3.16x.
For what it's worth, the 4.4.67 kernel shows the battery icon level for me in color, but 3.16.43 always just shows it as gray/dead.
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#53 Post by sszindian »

On startup... if you press F2, you get the screen of boot options but... the cursor doesn't show up to do anything with them! Hitting escape-key gets you back to the first boot screen.

The update program feature that was in 6.9.6.4 (getting them direct from Slackware) was much easier and nicer to use instead of having to update the PPM then search for and install the updates... 'Mind you, just my opinion!

Overall, it's a very nice program and things seem to work as they should... 'so far'... Testing continues.

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PS: Thanks for the new Google Earth builds... the 64-bit works although slow, slow, starting up and doing any tilt-features etc., on this old Intel graphics card.

The Google Earth 32-bit will not run even with the 32-bit libs installed.

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Slacko64. Intel HD Graphics need "i915.modeset=0" in grub

#54 Post by Maurizio4Puppy »

Hi all,

Running a new installation made with "F2FS installer - Flash Drives" on a Mac mini (mid 2011) with Intel HD Graphics 3000 or on a Samsung ATIV Book 2 with Intel HD Graphics 4000, I receiving these errors in /var/log/messages:

On Mac:

May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 6:0:0xbb8ff7f8, in Xorg [5807], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU hangs can indicate a bug anywhere in the entire gfx stack, including userspace.
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] Please file a _new_ bug report on bugs.freedesktop.org against DRI -> DRM/Intel
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] drm/i915 developers can then reassign to the right component if it's not a kernel issue.
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] The gpu crash dump is required to analyze gpu hangs, so please always attach it.
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU crash dump saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error
May 23 20:41:19 puppypc25607 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang
May 23 20:41:51 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 23 20:41:51 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 6:0:0xbb8ff7f8, in Xorg [5807], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 23 20:41:51 puppypc25607 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang
May 23 20:41:57 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 23 20:41:57 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 6:0:0xbb8ff7f8, in Xorg [5807], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 23 20:41:57 puppypc25607 user.err kernel: [drm:i915_set_reset_status [i915]] *ERROR* gpu hanging too fast, banning!
May 23 20:41:57 puppypc25607 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang

On Sansung laptop:

May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 7:0:0xbb8ff7f8, in Xorg [5188], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU hangs can indicate a bug anywhere in the entire gfx stack, including userspace.
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] Please file a _new_ bug report on bugs.freedesktop.org against DRI -> DRM/Intel
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] drm/i915 developers can then reassign to the right component if it's not a kernel issue.
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] The gpu crash dump is required to analyze gpu hangs, so please always attach it.
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU crash dump saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error
May 23 21:41:44 puppypc25607 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang
May 23 21:41:50 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 23 21:41:50 puppypc25607 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 7:0:0xbb8ff7f8, in Xorg [5188], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 23 21:41:50 puppypc25607 user.err kernel: [drm:i915_set_reset_status [i915]] *ERROR* gpu hanging too fast, banning!
May 23 21:41:50 puppypc25607 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang


Adding "i915.modeset=0" argument in grub, solves the problem.
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#55 Post by norgo »

Intel HD4600

May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] stuck on render ring
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 7:0:0xbbaff7f8, in Xorg [6669], reason: Ring hung, action: reset
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU hangs can indicate a bug anywhere in the entire gfx stack, including userspace.
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] Please file a _new_ bug report on bugs.freedesktop.org against DRI -> DRM/Intel
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] drm/i915 developers can then reassign to the right component if it's not a kernel issue.
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] The gpu crash dump is required to analyze gpu hangs, so please always attach it.
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.info kernel: [drm] GPU crash dump saved to /sys/class/drm/card0/error
May 25 08:55:59 puppypc3523 user.notice kernel: drm/i915: Resetting chip after gpu hang

maybe change of "AccelMethod" from "sna" to "uxa" could help ?

update:

tried to force a GPU hang using "AccelMethod" "uxa"
result: no GPU hang up to now ( I gave my best :-) )

How to force a GPU hang
open a video player like SMplayer and play a video in high resolution
open a second application e.g. Abiword, grab a window corner and resize this window very fast multiple times
mostly GPU hang is the result

@Sailor Enceladus
Sailor I need a test object :-)

please create a text file 20-intel.conf with following content
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
EndSection
copy this file to etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

restart X-server

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#56 Post by bigpup »

Slacko64

Nvidia Geforce gtx 970

At boot up when it gets to starting X.
Get errors and X does not start.
Type xwin
It seems to go to next step where nouveau driver takes over, but stops with start x errors.
Type xwin
Boots to working desktop.

Installed Nvidia driver.
Now boots to desktop.
No errors.
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#57 Post by gyro »

norgo wrote:copy this file to etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
I have intel integrated graphics i915.
I got rid of my gpu hangs by using a similar file as "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf"

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#58 Post by sszindian »

Slacko64 6.9.6.7
Default Image Viewer:

When you click on a Picture (in your Pictures folder) the default image viewer works as it should and... when you select the 'slideshow' feature it works as it should selecting different pictures... however, when you go to 'full screen' it doesn't display all pictures full-screen size (as previous viewers did). If the original picture is only 2x3-inches, that's the size picture you get on full-screen.

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#59 Post by zigbert »

Default Image Viewer:
moving (drag) the image with the mouse errors if not releasing the mouse-button after the mouse-cursor is idle (not moving).

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#60 Post by bigpup »

Slacko 64bit version

Did not check the Slacko 32bit version, but I assume results would be the same.

Checked the offered help in all programs.
These programs had a help offered, but selecting help options offered no help documents.
Got error or nothing visible to see.

LibreOffice (all programs)
MtPaint
System Profiler and Benchmark
Xarchive
Pfind
Notecase
Document Viewer
Homebank
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