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01micko


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jun 2017, 04:14    Post subject:  

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
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The k3.16 version is reuploaded with correct pal-moon version.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jun 2017, 08:41    Post subject:  

Thanks 01micko. Streaming music and chatting on Palemoon (New Moon) on the new 260MB iso now. Smile

edit: When I go here http://groups.yahoo.com/ and click on a group, Palemoon crashes. I'll keep playing around with it though.

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Slacko64 6.9.9.6 with 4.9.30 kernel
Frugal on USB flash

No icons on desktop.
Hidden Tray of icons, on left side of desktop, visible when mouse pointer is placed near left edge.

OK!

There is no icon for the trash.
Trash needs a desktop icon to work correctly.

Needed for drag and drop.
needed for icon right click menu that gives options for trash.

No trash in the menu.

Looked in Rox.
No trash in right click menu.

So, just how do you put something in trash?


The lock desktop icon missing.

Does this no longer apply?

From Puppy documentation on how Puppy works:
Quote:
About the Lock Icon.

The PuppyPin file allows for placing icons relative to the left edge. Since Puppy also wants to place some icons along the right edge, it needs to first find the screen width and then do a little arithmetic to determine what value to put in the PuppyPin file for those icons. This is why we have fixPuppyPin.
With no "lock" icon, fixPuppyPin will no longer move any icons.

That's the "Icons desktop arrangement (apps)" called Minimal. I've never used the Trash and always disliked the "Recycling Bin" middle-man in Windows but I do like the Puppy Standard desktop icon arrangement for easy clicking too. The "Original Pup" theme in Menu -> Desktop -> Puppy Theme Manager has it as default, if you click that and press Apply they should come back.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jun 2017, 16:46    Post subject:  

When using pmedia=ataflash / PUPMODE = 13 on slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI, only the first save seemed to work, after that, any time I click on the save icon on desktop, it has the "Request to save" splash message but then the "Saving" message never comes up, so after every reboot the save icon will be where it was originally and "Updating layered filesystem" happens again. I used the save to folder option on an ext4 partition. In the past this happened when something was "open" and it was waiting for that thing to finish, I watched /tmp/snapmergepuppyrequest come up and then disappear though. The saving at shutdown is the same way, it says that it's saving, but it really doesn't. I added some pets, and it saved their entries to the menu but not the actual pets into the savefile, so "part of" ppm manages to write to the savefile there. I'll look for more clues.

edit: I narrowed it down to woof-CE commit 5213 saves successfully in pupmode 13 and commit 5281 doesn't... so far.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 04:00    Post subject:  

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
When using pmedia=ataflash / PUPMODE = 13 on slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI, only the first save seemed to work, after that, any time I click on the save icon on desktop, it has the "Request to save" splash message but then the "Saving" message never comes up, so after every reboot the save icon will be where it was originally and "Updating layered filesystem" happens again. I used the save to folder option on an ext4 partition. In the past this happened when something was "open" and it was waiting for that thing to finish, I watched /tmp/snapmergepuppyrequest come up and then disappear though. The saving at shutdown is the same way, it says that it's saving, but it really doesn't. I added some pets, and it saved their entries to the menu but not the actual pets into the savefile, so "part of" ppm manages to write to the savefile there. I'll look for more clues.

edit: I narrowed it down to woof-CE commit 5213 saves successfully in pupmode 13 and commit 5281 doesn't... so far.


I can confirm the bug on F2FS filesystem (save folder) too but works fine in a save file. I'll raise an issue on github. I think I know the commit that did the damage.

Thanks for report!

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 05:30    Post subject:  

The Pale Moon browser has a separate Linux Installer program (script file).
http://linux.palemoon.org/download/installer/

You install and run the program to do updates.

In Tahrpup this is what had to be used to check for and do updates to Pale Moon.
The process built into the browser did not work.
It was added to Tahrpup and given a menu entry in menu->Internet.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 06:03    Post subject:  

Slacko 6.9.9.6-UEFI-k4.4-PAE 32bit version.
Frugal install on USB flash drive.

This boots directly to desktop, using the Nouveau driver

Tried to run glxgears.
It runs for about 2 seconds and stops with this error.

Code:
illegal instruction


Also, in URXVT terminal.
Highlighting does not seem to copy.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 06:08    Post subject:  

@bugpup - I appreciate what you are saying re 'pale moon' but I have a compiled version that appears as 'new moon' - it has to be for the old comps or they get 'illegal instruction'. We can't use the official version. See Sailor Enceladus earlier post.

Also see 'about:buildconfig' in the address bar of palemoon (32 bit 3.16 version) to see the build options I used, .. something like '-march=pentium3 -msse -fpmath=sse' (IIRC - not in front of me right now).

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 06:19    Post subject:  

Quote:
@bugpup

Not sure how to take that Laughing
I hope I am not bugging you!! Laughing

I understand what you are saying about Pale Moon.
That is probably why the Pale Moon Linux installer does not recognize your version of Pale Moon.

Good idea to make the 32bit version, as usable as you can, for older computers. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Thanks for Slacko!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 06:57    Post subject: slacko-700 rc  

Manual frugal install to hard drive:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc15190 Kernel: 4.4.70 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1100/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 131x48 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1158.5GB (0.3% used)
Info: Processes: 158 Uptime: 20 min Memory: 201.0/1853.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko64 Puppy, version 6.9.9.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
It's working well so far,
Thanks for the new RC.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 07:23    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
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@bugpup

Not sure how to take that Laughing
I hope I am not bugging you!! Laughing

I understand what you are saying about Pale Moon.
That is probably why the Pale Moon Linux installer does not recognize your version of Pale Moon.

Good idea to make the 32bit version, as usable as you can, for older computers. Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation

Thanks for Slacko!!!!!

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Was an honest typi .. honest! Laughing

Thanks for testing. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 09:43    Post subject: slacko-700 rc 32bit  

Some questions & comments:

I downloaded and installed the 32 bit version with the 3.16 kernel, then changed successfully to 4.4.70 using the 'change_kernels' GUI/utility obtained from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101144 .

It is a frugal install to HD using a small 64 MB savefile with full encryption .
Multi booting with Grub4Dos.

After setting the 'Country' in Quicksetup, which restarted X, the screen dimmed a lot and I had no means of brightening it up again.
To fix that, I put xbacklight into /usr/bin [I had downloaded/installed it on Slacko 5.7].
It might be an idea to have xbacklight installed by default.

Is there a way to get the system to recognize the function keys on the HP Elitebook 8460p laptop?

Sound worked out of the box and wifi connects automatically after setting it up with the Network Wizard.

Flashplayer download and installation as Add-on for New Moon worked ok.

Hardinfo is not available either through Pup Sys Info nor through Sys-Info System information.
Is this intentional?

Abiword: How do I get spellcheck to work?

regards
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# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc3629 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2
Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8460p v: A0001D02 serial: CNU1311QYM
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 161C v: KBC Version 97.40 serial: PCCKA00QE1AHYW
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68SCF Ver. F.03 date: 04/27/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-2540M (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2601 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)
driver: e1000e
Card-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi
Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (1.5% used)
Info: Processes: 178 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 208.9/3951.9MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 11:25    Post subject:  

Slacko 700rc 32 bit and kernel 3.16. Changed Categories in psip.desktop from Internet to X-Internet. Now Psip is showed in Internet menu.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 11:48    Post subject:  

Sailor Enceladus wrote:
When using pmedia=ataflash / PUPMODE = 13 on slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI, only the first save seemed to work, after that, any time I click on the save icon on desktop, it has the "Request to save" splash message but then the "Saving" message never comes up, so after every reboot the save icon will be where it was originally and "Updating layered filesystem" happens again.
Fresh install of slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI in pupmode=13. Confirmed the problem.
FIxed "snapmergepuppy", problem gone.
Replace
Code:
BASEMTP="$(df-FULL | awk '{print $6}' | grep "$BASE" | tail -1)"
with
Code:
BASEMTP="$(stat -c %m "$BASE")"

fixed in woof-ce.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 11:59    Post subject:  

Thanks gyro. I'm trying another build now too. Smile

01micko wrote:
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Crashing intel graphics...

norgo wrote:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
EndSection


@gyro,norgo,sailor,Maurizio4Puppy (any one else)

What is an elegant solution for this issue?

Sure, I can find out if you have 'intel' graphics but it is not a 'one-size-fits-all' solution. (Hmm.. probably if we were relying on udev instead of 'xorgwizard-automatic' to set up X then we would be ok...).

Compiling a database of chips that work with the 'fix' will be very tedious and very 'hit and miss'.

I'm open to ideas... anyone? Maybe I should add a script to do this and issue instructions in the release notes to execute this script if you have problems with 'Intel HD Graphics'?

Maybe you affected guys should post some logs. (/var/log/Xorg0.log maybe).

Here is kind of how it works: You click on the Menu on the bottom left, and instead of seeing the list appear or disappear after, you see it as just a gray rectangle with no menu items, and then nothing on the display is clickable. If whatever you opened last is focused on a text field, sometimes you can still type into that field and watch what this program is doing but not move and click on anything on the display with the mouse arrow. It's almost like JWM is frozen into that program only, and maybe the drawing of the menu is redirected into the program instead of onto the taskbar too. If you hit Ctrl-Alt-F3 and type in the root name and password, then type top, you can try doing kill # and kill random things until you find the one JWM is currently focused on to regain control of the display. This time it happened after I opened PupSysInfo then clicked on the menu, and finding the kill number for gtkdialog4 let me regain control of the desktop. Last time I think I had to find the kill number for Firefox, another time it was geany. If you find the right program and kill it, when you return to the desktop with Ctrl-Alt-F4 you can type jwm -restart, and the gray box that is supposed to be the menu will turn into an empty program that you can move around, but if you click on the X on this new program it will kill everything, so I just move this "ghost menu program" to virtual desktop 2 so it's out of the way, and after doing that, sometimes it disappears on it's own after a few minutes. I could not find anything in the /var Xorg or messages logs or in the tmp xerrs.log around the time it happens. It sounds like more of a JWM issue than a Intel gfx card issue to me but perhaps it's both: some kind of commit in JWM that tries to do some kind of "intel graphics acceleration display quirk" and fails... I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it's something that was changed between the last jwm 2.2.x and 2.3.0, so I might try reading every commit in between to see if something gives a clue as to what commit I can compile jwm 2.3.x without.
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Jun 2017, 12:05    Post subject: slacko-700 rc  

Manual frugal install to hard drive:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc32249 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1100/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 141x40 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1158.5GB (0.5% used)
Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 51 min Memory: 172.0/1927.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 6.9.9.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Palemoon is working fine, plays youtube videos full screen.
Added kodi and some others.

No Problems so far,
Thanks.
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