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#81 Post by bigpup »

Slacko 6.9.9.6-UEFI-k4.4-PAE 32bit version.
Frugal install on USB flash drive.

This boots directly to desktop, using the Nouveau driver

Tried to run glxgears.
It runs for about 2 seconds and stops with this error.

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illegal instruction
Also, in URXVT terminal.
Highlighting does not seem to copy.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#82 Post by 01micko »

@bugpup - I appreciate what you are saying re 'pale moon' but I have a compiled version that appears as 'new moon' - it has to be for the old comps or they get 'illegal instruction'. We can't use the official version. See Sailor Enceladus earlier post.

Also see 'about:buildconfig' in the address bar of palemoon (32 bit 3.16 version) to see the build options I used, .. something like '-march=pentium3 -msse -fpmath=sse' (IIRC - not in front of me right now).
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#83 Post by bigpup »

@bugpup

Not sure how to take that :lol:
I hope I am not bugging you!! :lol:

I understand what you are saying about Pale Moon.
That is probably why the Pale Moon Linux installer does not recognize your version of Pale Moon.

Good idea to make the 32bit version, as usable as you can, for older computers. :!: :!: :!:

Thanks for Slacko!!!!!
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#84 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to hard drive:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc15190 Kernel: 4.4.70 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1100/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 131x48 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1158.5GB (0.3% used)
Info: Processes: 158 Uptime: 20 min Memory: 201.0/1853.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko64 Puppy, version 6.9.9.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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It's working well so far,
Thanks for the new RC.
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#85 Post by 01micko »

bigpup wrote:
@bugpup

Not sure how to take that :lol:
I hope I am not bugging you!! :lol:

I understand what you are saying about Pale Moon.
That is probably why the Pale Moon Linux installer does not recognize your version of Pale Moon.

Good idea to make the 32bit version, as usable as you can, for older computers. :!: :!: :!:

Thanks for Slacko!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Was an honest typi .. honest! :lol:

Thanks for testing. :)
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#86 Post by proebler »

Some questions & comments:

I downloaded and installed the 32 bit version with the 3.16 kernel, then changed successfully to 4.4.70 using the 'change_kernels' GUI/utility obtained from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101144 .

It is a frugal install to HD using a small 64 MB savefile with full encryption .
Multi booting with Grub4Dos.

After setting the 'Country' in Quicksetup, which restarted X, the screen dimmed a lot and I had no means of brightening it up again.
To fix that, I put xbacklight into /usr/bin [I had downloaded/installed it on Slacko 5.7].
It might be an idea to have xbacklight installed by default.

Is there a way to get the system to recognize the function keys on the HP Elitebook 8460p laptop?

Sound worked out of the box and wifi connects automatically after setting it up with the Network Wizard.

Flashplayer download and installation as Add-on for New Moon worked ok.

Hardinfo is not available either through Pup Sys Info nor through Sys-Info System information.
Is this intentional?

Abiword: How do I get spellcheck to work?

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# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc3629 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2
Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8460p v: A0001D02 serial: CNU1311QYM
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 161C v: KBC Version 97.40 serial: PCCKA00QE1AHYW
BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68SCF Ver. F.03 date: 04/27/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-2540M (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2601 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)
driver: e1000e
Card-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi
Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (1.5% used)
Info: Processes: 178 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 208.9/3951.9MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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#87 Post by watchdog »

Slacko 700rc 32 bit and kernel 3.16. Changed Categories in psip.desktop from Internet to X-Internet. Now Psip is showed in Internet menu.

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#88 Post by gyro »

Sailor Enceladus wrote:When using pmedia=ataflash / PUPMODE = 13 on slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI, only the first save seemed to work, after that, any time I click on the save icon on desktop, it has the "Request to save" splash message but then the "Saving" message never comes up, so after every reboot the save icon will be where it was originally and "Updating layered filesystem" happens again.
Fresh install of slacko-6.9.9.6-k3.16-4G-PM-ABI in pupmode=13. Confirmed the problem.
FIxed "snapmergepuppy", problem gone.
Replace

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BASEMTP="$(df-FULL | awk '{print $6}' | grep "$BASE" | tail -1)"
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BASEMTP="$(stat -c %m "$BASE")"
fixed in woof-ce.

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#89 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Thanks gyro. I'm trying another build now too. :)
01micko wrote:--

Crashing intel graphics...
norgo wrote:Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
EndSection
@gyro,norgo,sailor,Maurizio4Puppy (any one else)

What is an elegant solution for this issue?

Sure, I can find out if you have 'intel' graphics but it is not a 'one-size-fits-all' solution. (Hmm.. probably if we were relying on udev instead of 'xorgwizard-automatic' to set up X then we would be ok...).

Compiling a database of chips that work with the 'fix' will be very tedious and very 'hit and miss'.

I'm open to ideas... anyone? Maybe I should add a script to do this and issue instructions in the release notes to execute this script if you have problems with 'Intel HD Graphics'?

Maybe you affected guys should post some logs. (/var/log/Xorg0.log maybe).
Here is kind of how it works: You click on the Menu on the bottom left, and instead of seeing the list appear or disappear after, you see it as just a gray rectangle with no menu items, and then nothing on the display is clickable. If whatever you opened last is focused on a text field, sometimes you can still type into that field and watch what this program is doing but not move and click on anything on the display with the mouse arrow. It's almost like JWM is frozen into that program only, and maybe the drawing of the menu is redirected into the program instead of onto the taskbar too. If you hit Ctrl-Alt-F3 and type in the root name and password, then type top, you can try doing kill # and kill random things until you find the one JWM is currently focused on to regain control of the display. This time it happened after I opened PupSysInfo then clicked on the menu, and finding the kill number for gtkdialog4 let me regain control of the desktop. Last time I think I had to find the kill number for Firefox, another time it was geany. If you find the right program and kill it, when you return to the desktop with Ctrl-Alt-F4 you can type jwm -restart, and the gray box that is supposed to be the menu will turn into an empty program that you can move around, but if you click on the X on this new program it will kill everything, so I just move this "ghost menu program" to virtual desktop 2 so it's out of the way, and after doing that, sometimes it disappears on it's own after a few minutes. I could not find anything in the /var Xorg or messages logs or in the tmp xerrs.log around the time it happens. It sounds like more of a JWM issue than a Intel gfx card issue to me but perhaps it's both: some kind of commit in JWM that tries to do some kind of "intel graphics acceleration display quirk" and fails... I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it's something that was changed between the last jwm 2.2.x and 2.3.0, so I might try reading every commit in between to see if something gives a clue as to what commit I can compile jwm 2.3.x without.

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#90 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to hard drive:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc32249 Kernel: 4.4.70 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.6
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1100/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 141x40 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1158.5GB (0.5% used)
Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 51 min Memory: 172.0/1927.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 6.9.9.6

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: intel

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 glx kbd mouse present

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Palemoon is working fine, plays youtube videos full screen.
Added kodi and some others.

No Problems so far,
Thanks.

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#91 Post by norgo »

Hi @Sailor Enceladus

seems to be a different problem in your case.
Without an error message or a logfile message very difficult to find indeed.
Would like to help but have no idea where to start searching.

I don't want to be delighted too early but since usage of uxa accel-method I had no hang or freeze any more.

But I found still another minor flaw concerning ROX-Filter.
If a file becomes copied into a folder containing a file with the same file name,
file becomes overwritten without to ask user for confirmation.

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#92 Post by zigbert »

The browser offline startup page includes link to the nabble development forum... Isn't this dead by now?

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#93 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

norgo wrote:But I found still another minor flaw concerning ROX-Filter.
If a file becomes copied into a folder containing a file with the same file name,
file becomes overwritten without to ask user for confirmation.
Hi @norgo,

I noticed that too. I think to get the old behaviour back, you can right-click on a file, then click on the "Options..." (with the screwdriver/wrench), and under "Action Window" remove the checkmark from Copy. I'm not sure why this was changed, maybe someone requested it. Next time I get the jwm desktop freeze I think I will save my entire initrd/pup_rw and upload it. The clue has to be somewhere, unless it's in RAM only :shock: :lol: edit: I still need to try your uxa accel-method idea too though
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#94 Post by zigbert »

Slacko64 (biggest rc iso):

- Printing works ! - after installed hplip from PPM. The printing setup still points to forum thread with 32-bit info.

- Wireless works ! - but to get reasonable speed, I had to connect with net-setup. Both SNS and Frisbee gives a reeeally slow connection. Device is rt2800usb.

- Installed Gimp-2.9.3 appimage without any issues !

... So, finally I am ready for 64bit computing. Still no wine available, but I guess there must be a solution somewhere... ?


Thank you Mick

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#95 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

zigbert wrote:Still no wine available, but I guess there must be a solution somewhere... ?
I wondered about this too. I tried compiling wine-2.9 in Slacko64 and it said "missing 32-bit development libraries" even after loading the 32-bit compatibility layer. Maybe I need 32-bit devx and 64-bit devx? Compiling it in 32-bit Slacko was easy though.

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pMusic 5.4.1

#96 Post by norgo »

pMusic Radio streamer 5.4.1

Hi @zigbert

unfortunately names of the radio stations are truncated at the end.
Could you increase the width of the text area a little bit please ?
There's still enough space :-)
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#97 Post by norgo »

Sailor Enceladus wrote: you can right-click on a file, then click on the "Options..." (with the screwdriver/wrench), and under "Action Window" remove the checkmark from Copy. I'm not sure why this was changed, maybe someone requested it
This I tried already but in this case ROX-Filter is asking for every copy action.
It’s not the same like an overwrite warning.

ROX-Filter has been updated a month ago
have a look at github puppylinux-woof-CE/petbuilds/rox-filter

You didn't try the uxa accelmethod until now ?
This gives me hope :-)

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#98 Post by zigbert »

Overwriting existing global theme gives wrong theme-icon in the pTheme gui.
Fixed in WoofCE

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#99 Post by zigbert »

norgo wrote:pMusic Radio streamer 5.4.1

Hi @zigbert

unfortunately names of the radio stations are truncated at the end.
Could you increase the width of the text area a little bit please ?
There's still enough space :-)
Hmmm, I see...
It probably seems like an easy thing to fix, but actually it requires some rewrite in the handling of the rc-file and how each frontend reads data from it. I don't think it's the right time to dig into this now, but I will for sure add it to the todo-list, and check this out after Slacko 7 is released.

Please use the main gui (pMusic), and you are able to adjust column width manually.

edit:
I was wrong - fixed in WoofCE
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#100 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

norgo wrote:
Sailor Enceladus wrote: you can right-click on a file, then click on the "Options..." (with the screwdriver/wrench), and under "Action Window" remove the checkmark from Copy. I'm not sure why this was changed, maybe someone requested it
This I tried already but in this case ROX-Filter is asking for every copy action.
It’s not the same like an overwrite warning.

ROX-Filter has been updated a month ago
have a look at github puppylinux-woof-CE/petbuilds/rox-filter
Ah you're right, changing Action Windows makes it ask every time you copy... even when you're not overwriting a file. hmm

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