FireFox requires PulseAudio for sound; how to install?
- spiritwild
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I had installed pulseaudio prior to hearing about apulse. Since I got FF to produce sound, I didn't feel the need to go undo things and try apulse.
I eventually tried it and had some kind of crashing issue with FF. I didn't really bother looking into why, I just went back to what was working.
I had read about FF dropping alsa on different forums, some were just dumbfounded that is has worked for 10 years would be no longer supported. Others defended it to the point of arguing. Suddenly it was as if Alsa was representing the democratic vote and Pulse the republican.
My only issue.... It's just a bump in the road but if you're new to linux/Puppy, these little bumps are road blocks. From what I read, it's very hit or miss depending on your distro.
I only run firefox from Wbar, so I just load a script with pulse and FF and get on with my business. I suppose you can change the .desktop EXEC , run the script, command line , etc
There were a few tweaks here and there with configs but it plays sound so I'm content.
Sound test.... https://hpr.dogphilosophy.net/test/
I eventually tried it and had some kind of crashing issue with FF. I didn't really bother looking into why, I just went back to what was working.
I had read about FF dropping alsa on different forums, some were just dumbfounded that is has worked for 10 years would be no longer supported. Others defended it to the point of arguing. Suddenly it was as if Alsa was representing the democratic vote and Pulse the republican.
My only issue.... It's just a bump in the road but if you're new to linux/Puppy, these little bumps are road blocks. From what I read, it's very hit or miss depending on your distro.
I only run firefox from Wbar, so I just load a script with pulse and FF and get on with my business. I suppose you can change the .desktop EXEC , run the script, command line , etc
There were a few tweaks here and there with configs but it plays sound so I'm content.
Sound test.... https://hpr.dogphilosophy.net/test/
I have found a way to get working pulseaudio-9.0 in slacko64 700 beta. Install it by PPM with pavucontrol and pulseaudio-ctl. Then edit /etc/pulse/default.pa commenting the following lines:
Now pulseaudio should work:
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### If autoexit on idle is enabled we want to make sure we only quit
### when no local session needs us anymore.
#.ifexists module-console-kit.so
#load-module module-console-kit
#.endif
#.ifexists module-systemd-login.so
#load-module module-systemd-login
#.endif
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pulseaudio --start
firefox
pulseaudio --kill
I was testing google-chrome viewing web page videos and experienced a
very annoying repetitive clicking sound. Uninstalling apulse fixed the
problem.
Edit: I've written script wrappers for Firefox (32 and 64 bit) that enable
apulse only while Firefox is active. Now I can test or use alternate browsers
without interference.
Art
very annoying repetitive clicking sound. Uninstalling apulse fixed the
problem.
Edit: I've written script wrappers for Firefox (32 and 64 bit) that enable
apulse only while Firefox is active. Now I can test or use alternate browsers
without interference.
Art
OscarTalks wrote:As an alternative, try installing this apulse package
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.8-i686-wz.pet
Then just run Firefox as normal.
Just a library so no need to start and stop daemons.
Compiled in Wheezy but tested briefly and worked in Slacko 5.7
Works for me & frugal slacko5.7 npae with FFv53 on a Dell Latitude E6420
--- quad booting Slacko57NPAE, Slacko56NPAE, Slacko55PAE (with OO4, devx, Gimp) & WXP on DELL Dimension 2400 PC & DELL Latitude 630 Laptop using grub.
---USB-Flash booting same on Samsung N110 WXP Netbook and Lenovo q100 WXP netPC.
---USB-Flash booting same on Samsung N110 WXP Netbook and Lenovo q100 WXP netPC.
- Mike Walsh
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Mm. Couldn't agree more, TBH.spiritwild wrote:I had installed pulseaudio prior to hearing about apulse. Since I got FF to produce sound, I didn't feel the need to go undo things and try apulse.
I eventually tried it and had some kind of crashing issue with FF. I didn't really bother looking into why, I just went back to what was working.
What I take away from all this is very simple; find what works for your system, your hardware, your Pup.....and stick with it. What works for one won't necessarily work for everyone.
The apulse pet wasn't needed for me in Tahrpup 6.05, because I'd already got PulseAudio as part of watchdog's Skype workaround. I installed FF52 to try it out (I'm not an FF user, really.....more of a Chrome guy).....and for me, there was no 'issue' with the sound. It was just there. After mulling it over, I realised why.....and just as quickly thought, 'If it works, don't 'fix' it..!'
So, it's a case of YMMV.... If it's fully functional, leave it the hell alone. Mind you, telling a geek not to 'tinker' is like trying to forbid the sun to rise in the mornings..!
Mike.
- Mike Walsh
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- Location: King's Lynn, UK.
Yeah, also jumped ship. I use Palemoon and Light most often nowadays (yes I know they're mozilla forks but...). and finding myself in FF gives me the same queasy feeling that IE does
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Noticed this yesterday too, and reverted to ESR 52.2. How hard can it really be to consistently play audio through a browser? I'm pretty sure we had that feature in 1997...artsown wrote:Firefox 54 eliminates audio again in spite of apulse. Other things are
broken with 54 as well. I installed a recent ESR version of FF for the time
being.
Will this crap never end?
Art
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What distributions are you guys running?
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
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tahrpup-6.0.5 PAE (upgraded from 6.0 =>6.0.2=>6.0.3=>6.0.5 via quickpet/PPM=Not installed); slacko-5.7 occasionally. Frugal install, pupsave file, multi OS flashdrive, FAT32 , SYSLINUX boot, CPU-Dual E2140, 4GB RAM[/color]
FF 52 ESR works fine (HTML5 audio). FF 54 does not. Same hardware, same (minimal) plugins, same location, no flash. I'm no newbie: I've been doing this stuff for decades.B.K. Johnson wrote:What distributions are you guys running?
Where have you got FF installed?
Do you use Flash? What add-ons?
What hardware?
FF and Seamonkey have been installed on my tahr for an eternity; my FF updated itself yesterday to 45.0; I don't have apulse installed and I use VLC and DeadBeef to play my local .mp3s (even as I type this) and listen to youtube offerings (just did). I have YouTube ALL HTML5 as an add-on. You guys are giving FF a bad rap! Got to be another reason/reasons for your failures.
It's not hugely surprising that 54 doesn't do what ESR 52 does, as even Google warns that there are ongoing changes to FF that render some media playback - even Google hangouts video - 'temporarily' unusable on FF for now.
I'm not giving FF a bad rap. FF 52 ESR is the most effective 32-bit Linux browser I've found for HTML5 media. But 54 is, at least in that respect, a big step backward.
Apulse is defective. I realized it first using skype 4.3 and then recent Firefox. My package pulseaudio-4.0-tahr606-i386.pet is working in slacko 700rc, thar6.0.6 and other recent puppies:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 288#947288
Tested working firefox 54.0.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 288#947288
Tested working firefox 54.0.
If you are going to try pulseaudio in 64 bit puppies then I have posted some experiments:artsown wrote:@watchdog
What about 64 bit versions of tahrpup and xenialpup?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 004#957004
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 004#951004
Hi folks,
I am currently using Waterfox64 instead of Firefox when pulseaudio is an issue. (eg Quirky Xerus 64)
The author is sticking with alsa. You may wish to give it a try.
Direct download link for pet follows:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... UVaSlptbnc
I am currently using Waterfox64 instead of Firefox when pulseaudio is an issue. (eg Quirky Xerus 64)
The author is sticking with alsa. You may wish to give it a try.
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https://drive.google.com/uc?export=down ... UVaSlptbnc
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@ watchdog
Success! In Xenialpup64, I followed your suggestion to install pulseaudio
via the PPM even though it claims it's already installed. I installed all
three of the "already installed" including pulseaudio_8.0
I use a Startup script:
pulseaudio --system
pulseaudio --start
and that's it! I checked and made sure that no pulseaudio --kill seems to
be required. Other browsers don't seem to be affected. Audio in music
and video players aren't affected.
Firefox 54 is now working well. I haven't yet tried to follow your
suggestions for tahrpup64.
I appreciate your help! Thanks.
Art
Success! In Xenialpup64, I followed your suggestion to install pulseaudio
via the PPM even though it claims it's already installed. I installed all
three of the "already installed" including pulseaudio_8.0
I use a Startup script:
pulseaudio --system
pulseaudio --start
and that's it! I checked and made sure that no pulseaudio --kill seems to
be required. Other browsers don't seem to be affected. Audio in music
and video players aren't affected.
Firefox 54 is now working well. I haven't yet tried to follow your
suggestions for tahrpup64.
I appreciate your help! Thanks.
Art