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belham2

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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jun 2017, 15:36    Post subject: Re: Menu text  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Hi,
Having worsening eyesight, I want to enlarge the Menu items text
a bit more but can't just see how that's done.
Could someone enlighten me please.
Thanks.


Hi Rodney,

I think your best (and easiest) bet is to play with the "Global-Font" size for the system (the dpi). Currently it is set at 96 in most all pups. You'll find it either under the Desktop menu category called "Font Size", or it will appear when you open JWM Desktop Manager. I am currently using 120DPI, which is about the limit you can go before a lot of things start getting squeezed all throughout the pup. Here's some pics (and, yes, I also use big-honking 40-DPI icons):



P.S. If the above doesn't work for you, next stop is to try this:
1) Open file /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc in a text editor, find the <MenuStyle> section:

<MenuStyle>
<Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font>

Increase the font size and save.

2) Open a console window and run following commands:

fixmenus

jwm -restart


And if this doesn't work for you, most likely then you'll want to play with the GTK-theme: The font style of program menus can be controlled by the GTK theme. There is probably a GTK theme chooser in your "desktop" menu - it should have an option to change the font and text size. If it doesn't, go straight to the theme folder in /usr and change the font size there.
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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jun 2017, 22:34    Post subject:  

@Rodney,
If you use Chrome, chromium or any of the chromium derivative browsers, the Global Font size (dpi) increase belham2 outlined above is definitely the way to go as the toolbar and menu fonts in those browsers don't follow the system or GTK theme fonts (thanx googly). They will follow a dpi bump. I use anywhere from 102 to 120 dpi depending on screen size and the user, mostly for those recalcitrant fonts.

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 02:37    Post subject:  

Second pair of spectacles works for me. Most large opticians offer 2-for-1, just ask for "computer prescription" and tell them the distance you sit from the screen. If you're living in the USA or anywhere else that rips off their clients, send your prescription mail order to www.glassesdirect.co.uk or any other more rational nation's opticians where they support proper healthcare!
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 04:06    Post subject: Re: Menu text  

Rodney Byne wrote:
I want to enlarge the Menu items text

I don't think there's a specific control for just this item.....

Menu -> Desktop -> Change Appearance -> Theme - Font selection (at bottom of window) allows you to increase the font size but will change other displays as well as the menu.....( you may need to do a Window Manager Restart from the Session menu to see the changes).

@Belham2 has provided JWM advice which does not completely apply to LXDE..... but global fontsize via Font Manager does work - but ignore bits about fixmenus and jwm restart!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 05:38    Post subject: Re: Menu text  

peebee wrote:
Rodney Byne wrote:
I want to enlarge the Menu items text

I don't think there's a specific control for just this item.....

Menu -> Desktop -> Change Appearance -> Theme - Font selection (at bottom of window) allows you to increase the font size but will change other displays as well as the menu.....( you may need to do a Window Manager Restart from the Session menu to see the changes).

@Belham2 has provided JWM advice which does not completely apply to LXDE..... but global fontsize via Font Manager does work - but ignore bits about fixmenus and jwm restart!!!!



Hmmm, you mean these poor users of LxPupSC in the 32-bit world don't have the option & luxury of switching back and forth from LXDE and JWM? Just right there another reason to dump LxPupSC and put more effort behind LxPup64---which, by the way gang, Peebee gives you both desktop mgr options of doing with its own menu entry to switch back & forth. I just made the mistake that you all still running LxPupSc 32-bit have the same creature comforts & power that we do in Peebee's 64-bit world of LxPup64. Wink

Apologies Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 06:02    Post subject: Re: Menu text  

belham2 wrote:
running LxPupSc 32-bit have the same creature comforts & power that we do in Peebee's 64-bit world of LxPup64.

LxPupSc has the same desktop switching as LxPup64 - but for both, the primary desktop manager is LXDE and it's the LXDE menu that needed adjustment.....

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Rodney Byne

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 10:13    Post subject: Re Menu text size  

Thanks gents for all your various ideas on this.

As no progress made, I'm abandoning experimental
LxPupSc 32 and going back to my favourite distro Xslacko 4.2.

I don't like switchable dual window managers
in principle anyway, if only to avoid confusion and
improve user satisfaction on the necessary features.

imho think concerted effort should be focused on just perfecting
the considered better one of the two for the job in hand.

As a side benefit, with a big chunk of WM code removed,
the iso size will be reduced to the delight of those on
very slow broadband.

Best regards.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 12:50    Post subject: Re: Re Menu text size  

Rodney Byne wrote:
Thanks gents for all your various ideas on this.

As no progress made, I'm abandoning experimental
LxPupSc 32 and going back to my favourite distro Xslacko 4.2.

I don't like switchable dual window managers
in principle anyway, if only to avoid confusion and
improve user satisfaction on the necessary features.

imho think concerted effort should be focused on just perfecting
the considered better one of the two for the job in hand.

As a side benefit, with a big chunk of WM code removed,
the iso size will be reduced to the delight of those on
very slow broadband.

Best regards.



Rodney,

Sorry the advice didn't pan out (I'm surprised it didn't). I fool with menus and font sizes in all pups and pup-derivatives, no matter the WM. Oh well, it's not like X-slacko 4.2 isn't nice, because it is. We just need rg66 to come back and update x-slacko 4.2. Make sure you've got things like openssl and other stuff updated (a lot of stuff is posted for this) in it.

Take care.
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Jun 2017, 14:56    Post subject:  

Change resolution to 1024x768 or get an older laptop with 1024x768 screen was my solution. Anything else is just wacky. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Jun 2017, 06:03    Post subject:  

firefox is now version 52.2.0esr from slackware. see https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/LxPupSc/browsers/

If you have a folder /usr/lib/firefox in your savefolder this will need to be deleted and a reboot done before the new version will run.

The versions of the browsers as of 21-jun-2017 with their md5sums are:

chromium-59.0.3071.86+pepper_26.0.0.131 :8a69c7f0080ea4a723479336abda305e

firefox-52.2.0esr :585ac2a6d378827ddc26426982dc0ff4

opera-stable_45.0.2552.898_i386 :a9c303bacea28ecf81964ae1a63b0d34

palemoon-27.3.0-i486-1alien :0d946b97191599b1bc4765a660dd6ef0

seamonkey-2.46 :a7e8216ba4821129798b80a16d459b67

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jun 2017, 04:43    Post subject:  

Updated 24-jun-2017

Interim delta to 17.06.25T

BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;60ddd23;2017-06-21 09:01:47 +0800'
Slackware Current components as of Fri Jun 23 20:11:00 UTC 2017
Kernel 4.11.7

Openbox round corners available in main theme....

Opera has gone 64-bit only so no longer available to download....
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Jun 2017, 23:41    Post subject:  

Hi peebee;

peebee wrote:
Openbox round corners available in main theme...


Whoa! Shocked Cool - is that now a new "official" feature of the latest Openbox? Would love to have a play with this in my Ubuntu-based Openbox Pups/Dogs...

Bob
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun 2017, 02:03    Post subject:  

Moat wrote:
Hi peebee;

peebee wrote:
Openbox round corners available in main theme...


Whoa! Shocked Cool - is that now a new "official" feature of the latest Openbox? Would love to have a play with this in my Ubuntu-based Openbox Pups/Dogs...

Bob

Unofficial.....patch found at:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?pid=46711#p46711

32-bit deb from the same forum:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxKgGOEUcdFTak9IUk9sUWFsSm8

Effect differs by theme - some work ok others need the radius set to 0 (square corners)

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun 2017, 04:04    Post subject:  

Grabbed it... thanks, peebee. Smile Time to play...

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jun 2017, 05:59    Post subject:  

Neat! Cool

peebee wrote:
Effect differs by theme - some work ok others need the radius set to 0 (square corners)


Yes; the contrasting borders themselves (in the themes that have them) are not being rounded - but a bit of Compton drop shadow appears to "soften" that glitch somewhat, making a number of them quite usable as-is. A little tweaking could make 'em even better, I'm thinking...

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