slacko64 6.3.2, new machine, no cd drive(solved)

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slacko64 6.3.2, new machine, no cd drive(solved)

#1 Post by RickGT351 »

I recently acquired a more powerful computer that, sadly does not have a cd drive. It has a NVIDIA GeForce GTX960 video card.
I am using slacko64 6.3.2
I have tried making a flashdrive to run on this machine but the old computer has a Radeon video card so shinobar's excellent getnvidia-1.0-64.pet from here has a tantrum when it doesn't detect the NVIDIA card.
Is there a trick I can use to get the new machine to boot so I can actually see what's on the screen?
It does boot. I just can't see what's on the screen. I have tried the nuveau and the modesetting video modes without success.
Here's what the screen looks like on the new computer
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#2 Post by cthisbear »

What are the PC specs, model etc?

Why not use a different Puppy.

I still like Woof CE Debian Stretch by ttuuxxx.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109789

Tried it on quite a few machines.

I'm hoping he'll do an update.

Even in NZ a usb shouldn't cost too much should it?


Kingston USB 3.0 DataTraveler 100 G3 8GB >> $6.64

https://pricespy.co.nz/category.php?k=168

Also

https://www.officemax.co.nz/search?Prod ... de:sw:SX44

https://www.officemax.co.nz/store-locator

Chris.

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#3 Post by mikeslr »

Agree with cthisbear. Knowing the details of your computer would help. As bigpup has often said, you are our eyes and hands. We can only know what you tell us. I'd add, there's often more than one way to solve a problem. The more we know, the more likely a solution can be found.

I don't have a nvidia card --pure luck. Didn't know they presented a problem. I kind-of recalled some posts about how to reach desktop without the proper driver being present by adding a boot code and did a Wellminded search, http://wellminded.net63.net/. Although James C's problem wasn't the same as yours, perhaps the solution would be: add nouveau.noaccel=1 to your kernel line. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 333#751333

To clarify what I have in mind: While you can use your old (or other than your new) computer to place Slacko on the USB-Stick, don't try to create the nvidia driver on that computer. Rather, while you still have the USB-Key plugged into your "old" computer, edit the kernel line of the USB-Stick's boot loader to include the above command. My understanding is that by such command Slacko/Any-Puppy is instructed not to use a builtin nouveau driver and will, instead, use the Vesa? driver. Vesa(xvesa? --not sure) does not enable accelerated. But, once you've plugged it into your new computer and reached desktop you should be able to use shinobar's pet to create the nvidia driver.

At least, that the idea. nouveau.noaccel=1 may not be the right boot command in your case. If it isn't, use the Wellminded Search to look for other posts. Placing "nouvea boot command" in its search box turned up this one: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 395#927395,

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#4 Post by RickGT351 »

I got it working using Tahrpup64. I really like slacko64 but if it doesn't work then so be it;
Here's the specs of the new computer
Computer
********


Summary
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-Computer-
Processor : 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4690K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Memory : 8109MB (315MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu Jun 22 12:11:42 2017
-Display-
Resolution : 0x0 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 256 bits)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter : PC-Speaker - pcsp
-Input Devices-
Power Button
Power Button
E-Signal USB Gaming Mouse
E-Signal USB Gaming Mouse
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
Brother_DCP-J125
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA INTEL SSDSC2BW24
ATA ST1000DM003-1ER1
WD Ext HDD 1021
Brother DCP-J125
SRT USB

Operating System
----------------

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.14.54 (x86_64)
Version : #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 1 17:54:26 GMT 2015
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.19 (stable)
Distribution : Puppy Linux
-Current Session-
Computer Name : jimbob
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown
-Misc-
Uptime : 23 minutes
Load Average : 0.02, 0.08, 0.06

Kernel Modules
--------------

-Loaded Modules-
iptable_filter : iptables filter table
ip_tables : IPv4 packet filter
cfg80211 : wireless configuration support
rfkill : RF switch support
ftdi_sio : USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver
usblp : USB Printer Device Class driver
psmouse : PS/2 mouse driver
snd_pcsp : PC-Speaker driver
snd_hda_codec_hdmi : HDMI HD-audio codec
nouveau : nVidia Riva/TNT/GeForce/Quadro/Tesla
ttm : TTM memory manager subsystem (for DRM device)
drm_kms_helper : DRM KMS helper
drm : DRM shared core routines
hwmon : hardware monitoring sysfs/class support
i2c_algo_bit : I2C-Bus bit-banging algorithm
snd_hda_codec_realtek : Realtek HD-audio codec
snd_hda_codec_generic : Generic HD-audio codec parser
snd_hda_intel : Intel HDA driver
snd_hda_codec : HDA codec core
snd_pcm_oss : PCM OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_mixer_oss : Mixer OSS emulation for ALSA.
snd_pcm : Midlevel PCM code for ALSA.
snd_seq_dummy : ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
snd_seq_oss : OSS-compatible sequencer module
snd_seq_midi : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer MIDI synth.
snd_seq_midi_event : MIDI byte <-> sequencer event coder
snd_rawmidi : Midlevel RawMidi code for ALSA.
snd_seq : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture sequencer.
snd_seq_device : ALSA sequencer device management
snd_timer : ALSA timer interface
snd : Advanced Linux Sound Architecture driver for soundcards.
e1000e : Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver
ptp : PTP clocks support
pps_core : LinuxPPS support (RFC 2783) - ver. 5.3.6
mxm_wmi : MXM WMI Driver
wmi : ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver
fan : ACPI Fan Driver
video : ACPI Video Driver
acpi_pad : ACPI Processor Aggregator Driver

Boots
-----

-Boots-

Languages
---------

-Available Languages-
en_US : English locale for the USA
en_US.utf8 : English locale for the USA

Filesystems
-----------

-Mounted File Systems-
rootfs / 1.04 % (3.8 GiB of 3.9 GiB)
/dev/sde1 /initrd/mnt/dev_save 19.13 % (11.8 GiB of 14.6 GiB)
tmpfs /initrd/pup_rw 1.04 % (3.8 GiB of 3.9 GiB)
tmpfs /initrd/mnt/tmpfs 99.47 % (1.0 MiB of 190.6 MiB)
/dev/loop0 /initrd/pup_ro2 100.00 % (0.0 B of 190.0 MiB)
tmpfs /initrd/mnt/tmpfs4 96.50 % (1008.0 KiB of 28.1 MiB)
/dev/loop4 /initrd/pup_z 100.00 % (0.0 B of 27.1 MiB)
unionfs / 1.04 % (3.8 GiB of 3.9 GiB)
devtmpfs /dev 0.00 % (3.9 GiB of 3.9 GiB)
shmfs /dev/shm 0.00 % (1.9 GiB of 1.9 GiB)
/dev/loop1 /initrd/pup_ro4 100.00 % (0.0 B of 56.5 MiB)
/dev/sdc2 /mnt/sdc2 99.70 % (917.1 MiB of 299.8 GiB)

Display
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-Display-
Resolution : 0x0 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.15.1
-Monitors-
-Extensions-
BIG-REQUESTS
Composite
DAMAGE
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
DRI2
DRI3
GLX
Generic Event Extension
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
Present
RANDR
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SGI-GLX
SHAPE
SYNC
X-Resource
XC-MISC
XFIXES
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XINERAMA
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
-OpenGL-
Vendor : VMware, Inc.
Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 256 bits)
Version : 2.1 Mesa 10.1.3
Direct Rendering : Y_es

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#5 Post by bigpup »

Your computer is similar to mine.
i5 processor with NVIDIA GeForce GTX970

Slacko seems to have issues with Nvidia hardware and trying to use the nouveau driver.

This used as a boot option seems to work for me.

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nouveau.modeset=0
(that is the number 0, not the letter o)

If using a boot loader.
Add to the kernel line of the boot menu entry.
Example:

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kernel /slacko646999uefik49FFLO/vmlinuz   psubdir=slacko646999uefik49FFLO pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck nouveau.modeset=0
If booting not using a boot loader.
When you see the Puppy boot screen.
Hit F2
Enter the option and boot.

Yes.
Getnivida program needs to be running on the computer you need the Nvidia driver.
A lot of what it does is look for specific stuff, on the computer it is running on, and setup for that computer.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#6 Post by Mike Walsh »

I have to pull exactly the same stunt on an elderly Dell with the truly horrible Intel 'Extreme Graphics' chip from the early 2000s. The only way to get the beast to play ball is to add

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i915.modeset=0
.....to the kernel line. That instructs Puppy not to load the 'Brookedale'-cored chip's kernel driver, but to use the 'nouveau' one instead. It's a workaround that does achieve the desired result, however; the 'Extreme Graphics' chip still produces a wonderfully crystal clear display (even at over 15 yrs old!), once you've faffed around with the necessary boot parameters.....


Mike. :wink:

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#7 Post by RickGT351 »

Update: I finally got slacko64 working on my new machine from a flashdrive.
I used grub4dos, added to the kernel line of the boot menu entry.

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nouveau.modeset=0	
So it runs, but performance is pretty sad compared with tahrpup,
Note: If you boot off a flashdrive that you haven't tweaked, an F2 boot option is not available

Thanks for the help guys. Looks like I will stay with tahrpup 64

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