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#261 Post by Billtoo »

@01micko

I was curious and tried your instructions to @gyro on my Macmini
install.
I placed the /mnt/home/slacko-6999-4475/ydrv_slacko_6.9.9.9.sfs and
rebooted, it loaded along with the /mnt/home/slacko-6999-4475/zdrv_slacko_6.9.9.9.sfs
I exited to the prompt and ran xorgwizard and selected the intel
driver,resolution,and bit depth, then xwin back to the desktop.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 30 Jun 2017 on Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9 Linux 4.4.75-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1015x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.2

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1200 3: @1200 MHz

It could be my imagination I guess but the streaming videos in kodi and
smtube seem perfect, they were good the first time I ran xorgwizard
(yesterday) but not perfect.

FWIW

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#262 Post by 01micko »

@Billtoo

Thanks for testing :)

Did the mac-mini show any graphics problems before? As in gyro's case on my wifes macbook I have problems opening geany and adding the uxa fix fixes it. I had to do the same with the updated driver.

moving on.. I dusted off an old P4 compaq evo. I was searching frantically to find some RAM for the thing and found a ddr 512MB stick which worked. I couldn't find a hdd that worked so am posting from it now in a usb install (I dare not use PPM :lol: - else the thing will RAM crash!)

Anyway, I applied the uxa fix to to see if there were any detrimental effects. Seems ok, in fact better. Palemoon and geany are rendering faster. They did work before but a little slow - and this old thing has only 8 MB brookdale graphics! It was a horrible chipset when it first came out!

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# lspci -nn | grep -i 'vga'
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)
:lol:

I might just add the uxa fix anyway as I'm guessing it will cause far more problems without it. I might also upload the supplementary Y drive and add installation procedure to the release notes.

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# inxi -b
System:    Host: puppypc4952 Kernel: 3.16.43 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2
           Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Compaq product: Evo D510 USDT serial: H232KPBZ0575
           Mobo: Compaq model: 07ECh serial: H232KPBZ0575
           BIOS: Compaq v: 686O1 v1.05 date: 05/28/2002
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-UP-) speed: 1700 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Integrated Graphics Device
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network:   Card: Intel 82801DB PRO/100 VM (LOM) Ethernet Controller
           driver: e100
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 4.0GB (20.2% used)
Info:      Processes: 96 Uptime: 27 min Memory: 122.5/487.6MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8 
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#263 Post by gyro »

@01micko,
Sorry, I haven't tried the new x.org yet.
But just an observation if you are intending to include the "uxa" workaround in slacko;
It seems that it's always "intel" graphics, that has the problem.
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#264 Post by Billtoo »

01micko wrote:@Billtoo

Thanks for testing :)

Did the mac-mini show any graphics problems before? As in gyro's case on my wifes macbook I have problems opening geany and adding the uxa fix fixes it. I had to do the same with the updated driver.
Hi,

I haven't had any problems with geany, streaming videos had slight tearing, not terrible but there.
Streaming videos are solid now in kodi and smtube.
My older imac has a radeon chip and is using the galium driver, streaming videos a good, also good with nvidia driver on my dual core lenovo.
Anyway, the intel driver wasn't as good but seems much better now.
I also run Xubuntu on the macmini and streaming videos aren't great under that either.

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#265 Post by 01micko »

@Billtoo

Thanks for the report. I'll test the new driver on this old clunker and if it is a positive test then I might include the driver by default, once I get some more results.

I now have a working 40GB hard drive in the old Evo and it happened to have an old install of slacko-5.4 on it and a swap partition; performance is notably better. :)

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# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:         499252       98216       20088      168300      380948      208228
Swap:       1022972      111052      911920
@gyro

No rush. :) I hope it does something for your graphics woes. I suppose that including the uxa work around isn't ideal but I can't think of a better option. I think xorg sorts the config files based on name, in case of the uxa fix the file I'm proposing to use is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf. There is already an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-touchscreen-rightclick.conf which has no detrimental effect if there is no touchscreen present, but works well enough with a touch screen.

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#266 Post by gyro »

@01micko,
Did the test, and unfortunately it failed to fix issue.
But I noticed a couple of things.
1. According to "PupSysInfo->Devices->Display->Summary" X.Org is still 1.18.3 and Mesa is still 11.2.2, no change.
2. The build file contained a " --enable-uxa \" line, so I removed that and ran the script again, it did compile a heap of stuff again, but did not fix the issue. Although maybe the "banning!" message came a bit sooner.

When I have the problem, eventually I get an error message in "dmesg" ending in "banning!", and after that everything is fine.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find out what it's "banning".

Note: I don't consider them "woes", once the uxa workaround is in place there's no big problem.
The only problem is that it detects my 2 monitors as a single extended monitor, but gets them back to front. But I easily fix that with an "xrandr" script in "/root/Startup"

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#267 Post by gyro »

01micko wrote:I suppose that including the uxa work around isn't ideal but I can't think of a better option.
I agree, add the uxa workaround directly in puppy_slacko_n.n.n.sfs for now.
If we ever become aware that this upstream bug is fixed, the workaround can easily be removed.
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#268 Post by Billtoo »

I made two usb flash drive installs identical except one has the ydrive
loaded and the other doesn't.
I can't see much difference, streaming videos work well on both,
screenshot is with ydrive loaded so at least it doesn't break anything
:)

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 1 Jul 2017 on Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9 Linux 4.4.75-pae i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1015x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.2

Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc29185 Kernel: 4.4.75-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1000/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 117x39 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 63.5GB (6.1% used)
Info: Processes: 160 Uptime: 30 min Memory: 135.8/1926.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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Sound from 2 videos at once gets a little confusing :)
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#269 Post by Tman »

hi Mick and all!

Wow, it's been a long time since I've posted anything.
I tried both the 32-bit an 64-bit versions. I have not done any rigorous testing but video and sound work out of the box, which is good, because older pups no longer do for me, ever since I purchased an Nvidia 750ti videocard.
Mick, I like all the new gui for customising Jwm. :)
Well, I just wanted to stop in and say hi. Here's an updated Jwm theme for those who wanna try it. (for those who don't know how) just save the text as a -jwmrc file in /usr/jwm/themes.
Cya later y'all!

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<JWM> 

  <WindowStyle> 
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font> 
    <Width>3</Width> 
    <Height>24</Height>
    <Corner>4</Corner>
    <Foreground>#143051</Foreground> 
    <Background>#384A65:#4C7093</Background>
    <Outline>black</Outline> 
    <Active> 
      <Foreground>white</Foreground> 
      <Background>#32455A:#9BBDDD</Background> 
      <Outline>black</Outline> 
    </Active> 
  </WindowStyle> 

  <TrayStyle> 
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font> 
    <Foreground>gray</Foreground> 
    <Background>#384A65:#1E2B3F</Background> 
    <Outline>#384B66</Outline>
    <Active>
      <Foreground>white</Foreground> 
      <Background>#32455A:#A0C3E3</Background>
    </Active> 
  </TrayStyle> 

  <PagerStyle> 
    <Outline>black</Outline> 
    <Foreground>#798796</Foreground> 
    <Background>#324964</Background> 
    <Active>
      <Foreground>white</Foreground> 
      <Background>#546F8D</Background> 
    </Active>
  </PagerStyle> 

  <PopupStyle> 
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font> 
    <Foreground>black</Foreground> 
    <Background>#A7D27E</Background>
    <Outline>#A7D27E</Outline>
  </PopupStyle> 

  <MenuStyle> 
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-10</Font> 
    <Foreground>black</Foreground> 
    <Background>#E3C0A0</Background> 
    <Outline>gray</Outline>
    <Active>
      <Foreground>white</Foreground> 
      <Background>#D96FBD:#7AAAD6</Background>
    </Active>
  </MenuStyle> 

</JWM>


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#270 Post by Billtoo »

I installed to a 32gb flash drive for use on my HP mini Stream:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc27225 Kernel: 4.4.75 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: 200-009 serial: 3CR51504YY
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 2B38 v: 1.02 serial: 138922010004188
UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: 80.03 date: 12/15/2014
CPU: Dual core Intel Celeron 2957U (-MCP-) speed/max: 1100/1400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: intel tty size: 138x44 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 64.0GB (5.8% used)
Info: Processes: 163 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 167.1/1853.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 3 Jul 2017 on Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.9 Linux 4.4.75 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1016x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.2

Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

The 32bit install that I reported in an earlier post is a pleasure to use, this 64bit install is working
well so far, expect it will be the same.

Thanks.
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#271 Post by bigpup »

Update for my wifi issue.

Cuts off and on slow speed.

First, thank you 01micko for looking at possible causes in Slacko 6.9.9.9!!!
Also, others for suggestions!!

I will call this issue not a Slacko 6.9.9.9 specific problem.

This is wifi and a lot of things can affect wifi.

What has helped and made it usable:
Updated firmware/driver for the RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter.
Update to dhcpd
Using a newer Linux kernel.
Moving my wifi router to a different location.
Changing the transmit channel on the wifi router to a set channel, not auto.(I think this fixed the cuts off and on)
Applying wifi router firmware update.
Not using the internet for a few minutes after bootup, to let every possible function get fully loaded.
It seems to get better the longer I use it.

Other factors that could possibly be contributing to this.
My service is cable internet. It changes as people get on and off my section of the cable. Normal for cable internet. Band width gets split between the users that are connected.
Running Slacko from a frugal install on a USB portable hard drive.
Puppy thinks it is a ata hard drive, so the save is directly accessed and read and written to all the time. Pupmode=12.
I know you can get it to run in pupmode=13, but I am testing like a new user, that is only going to use what got initially setup by Puppy.
Using Grub4dos boot loader and it put pmedia=atahd in the menu entry.

Just some info for you 01micko, so you know your efforts were not lost!!!!!!!
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#272 Post by Billtoo »

I built a new Slacko64-6.9.9.9 which I'm using with my imac:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc24422 Kernel: 4.4.76 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop System: Apple product: iMac8 1 v: 1.0 serial: W8811GXLZE2
Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F226BEC8 v: PVT serial: 1
BIOS: Apple v: IM81.88Z.00C1.B00.0802091538 date: 02/09/08
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8135 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/2400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: radeon tty size: 124x33 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n driver: b43-pci-bridge
Card-2: Marvell 88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (3.0% used)
Info: Processes: 163 Uptime: 3:10 Memory: 261.2/3934.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 5 Jul 2017 on Slacko64 Puppy 6.9.9.9 Linux 4.4.76 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT]

X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.18.3
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (444x277 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 11.2.2

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Core 0: @800 1: @800 MHz

This isn't built with the newest woof-CE but a slightly older version (which works fine) the newest version builds okay
but on first boot it doesn't get to the desktop,running xorgwizard doesn't help.

This is booting from the live DVD with a savefile on the hard drive.

Thanks.

EDIT: I downloaded guvcview-1.7.1-x86_64-2.txz from the Fatdog 710 packages and installed it, it needed portaudio from PPM added but now works fine with the built-in iSight camera in this imac.

EDIT2: I did a slacko-6.9.9.9 build with the latest rationalise branch of woof-CE and it's working well (screenshot2)
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low resolution Radeon 3000

#273 Post by mister_electronico »

The maximum resolution that I get with my card :

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000] is 800 X 600 .

Any idea to get more resolution?

Thanks

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Re: low resolution Radeon 3000

#274 Post by Billtoo »

mister_electronico wrote:The maximum resolution that I get with my card :

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000] is 800 X 600 .

Any idea to get more resolution?

Thanks
Hi

You can exit to the prompt and run xorgwizard, it produces a menu with
4 options.

1.Set video driver.. (specify radeon)
2.Set screen resolution.. (specify your desired screen resolution)
3.Set color bith depth.. (16 or 24)

Then highlight Done and press enter.
Now xwin to get back to the desktop.

It works for me.

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Many thanks.

#275 Post by mister_electronico »

Many thanks Billtoo, everything now works perfectly, and the graphics card function to 1920x1080.

Thanks... see you

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#276 Post by Billtoo »

New 6.9.9.9 build booting from DVD with a savefile on the usb SSD (has no
hard drive)

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc11730 Kernel: 4.9.36-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4 serial: PTS860X0348050CF642700
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 serial: 00000000 BIOS: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: nvidia tty size: 137x34 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 126.3GB (3.5% used)
Info: Processes: 189 Uptime: 14 min Memory: 393.9/8096.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
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Using a 32" TV as a monitor via hdmi cable.
It's working well,
Thanks.
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#277 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Is it just me, or does pEqualizer (in Menu -> Multimedia) not do anything in Slacko 6.9.9.9? I tried moving the knobs up and down, selecting different profiles, even putting them all to 0, and my sound/music output still sounds exactly the same. :)

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#278 Post by bigpup »

I feel this is still something to try and troubleshoot.

My WIFI issues.

Can read my post for info on what I have done.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 864#959864

After all the things I have tried, I have only one remaining issue.
Slow connection speeds.
Not that slow, but slower than I get when using other Puppy versions.

I am comparing speed using Xenialpup64 7.0.8.5 K4.9.15 and Slacko64 6.9.9.9 K4.9.30.
Same computer and hardware.
Same network setup settings, using Network Wizard.

In Slacko64 6.9.9.9
Internet speeds are 10% to 15% slower in download speed and 70% slower in upload speed.

The only thing I can think, may be causing this, is something in the Linux kernel, that deals with WIFI.
Some kernel setting not correct. :idea:

So far, I have not found anything that is not the same as in Xenialpup64's kernel.

Any ideas??????
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#279 Post by rcrsn51 »

Do you get the same results when using your USB WiFi adapter? What driver does it use?

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#280 Post by bigpup »

Yes, about the same speeds.
USB wifi adapter Netgear WNA1100 using a ath9k_htc driver.

Just seems to act like some setting just not correct or the best.

I tried comparing the linux kernel wifi settings, but that gets a little deep for me and I am not totally sure I am look at the correct stuff.
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/

I could go back to trying the 4.9.15 kernel in Slacko64 6.9.9.9, but this is test of what is offered with a normal Slacko64 6.9.9.9 iso.
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