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Quirky Xerus 8.3 for x86_64, released July 29, 2017
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linuxcbon

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 13:36    Post subject:  

doggone wrote:
Using a frugal install to HD. Everything I tested works well and as expected except that I can not ad a printer. When trying to ad a printer, the browser says, “The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost:631. Please check this out before releasing 8.2.

yes, executable permissions are missing, you can solve it with the command
Code:
chmod +x /etc/init.d/*


There are other minor bugs though :
Code:
# /usr/sbin/cups_shell
/etc/init.d/cups: line 183: echo_success: command not found
cups: stopped scheduler.
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 25: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 26: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 54: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/etc/init.d/cups: line 175: echo_success: command not found
cups: started scheduler.
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 16:08    Post subject: Printing works  

Barry,

I have used Libre Office Write for the first time in a Quirky and I expected it to kill my live-flash in 2GB of RAM. But it was only very slightly sluggish and it even printed (and without the leading blank line that was guaranteed by Abiword). And when I asked it to do too much the offending applications crashed without crashing X or the OS (unlike other Quirkys since 733)! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 16:23    Post subject:  

@linuxcbon & doggone

Sorry linuxcbon but I do not agree with your shotgun code approach i.e. making
everything in /etc/init.d/ executable.

In previous Pups Barry has usually had cups starting and running by default.
In other words ticked in "BootManager:Manage system services". In this beta Pup
IIRC he did not, which would explain doggone's error message.
If you do tick cups you need to then reboot for correct operation.

The composite shot below shows the relationship between "Manage system services"
and the content of /etc/init.d/
A tick toggles the item into an executable state. A blank box removes the executable
permission.

In the composite shot below I am displaying executable files in blue as is my habit.
It is handy in many folders to quickly see at a glance what is and is not executable.

There is no need to turn on items that you have no intention of using.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 19:52    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus 8.2 final is released, see announcement, release notes and download links:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00609

My previous experience is that there are always more bugs found after an official release, so probably 8.2.1 is not far away.
It is expected to be a simple Service Pack PET.

I have not released a Service Pack to upgrade from Xerus 8.1.6, as there were some problems reported awhile back regarding the Service Packs not working quite as expected.
I decided to get 8.2 out, and then examine the Service Pack mechanism at my leisure.

There is a post above about printing not working, and one post with a fix. I did test printing with an earlier beta build and it worked, so I thought that one was OK. I will check it out.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 20:03    Post subject:  

linuxcbon wrote:
doggone wrote:
Using a frugal install to HD. Everything I tested works well and as expected except that I can not ad a printer. When trying to ad a printer, the browser says, “The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost:631. Please check this out before releasing 8.2.

yes, executable permissions are missing, you can solve it with the command
Code:
chmod +x /etc/init.d/*


There are other minor bugs though :
Code:
# /usr/sbin/cups_shell
/etc/init.d/cups: line 183: echo_success: command not found
cups: stopped scheduler.
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 25: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 26: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/usr/bin/cups-config: line 54: dpkg-architecture: command not found
/etc/init.d/cups: line 175: echo_success: command not found
cups: started scheduler.


Oh, I see. That is why printing was reported as broken. The change that I made was to disable most of the daemons, including /etc/init.d/cups. This is done by clearing the "execute" permissions of the file.

The reason why I did this, is because I am becoming increasing paranoid about security, and any daemon is a potential security hole.

You can right-click on /etc/init.d/cups and choose "Properties" then tick the "Exec" checkboxes.

Or, Menu -> Setup -> QuickSetup
then click the "Manage daemons" button.
Edit:
Or, Menu -> System -> BootManager
then choose "Manage System Services"

Edit:
Ha ha, I have just spotted a bug, in that "Manage daemons" window. There is a checkbox labeled just "functions" (file /etc/init.d/functions). Do not tick that, it is not a daemon.
It doesn't matter if ticked anyway, as it is only a collection of functions. This file comes from the OpenEmbedded project, so I put it in there for compatibility with OE.

I will filter that out of the list, to avoid user confusion.

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PostPosted: Tue 18 Jul 2017, 20:36    Post subject: Re: Printing works  

zygo wrote:
Barry,

I have used Libre Office Write for the first time in a Quirky and I expected it to kill my live-flash in 2GB of RAM. But it was only very slightly sluggish and it even printed (and without the leading blank line that was guaranteed by Abiword). And when I asked it to do too much the offending applications crashed without crashing X or the OS (unlike other Quirkys since 733)! Very Happy


I have only used it on a laptop with 4GB RAM, and it is quite perky. No crashes, but then I have only given it fairly light duties.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 09:38    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64, released July 19, 2017  

I booted from the live dvd and installed to a 32gb SDHC card:

# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc936 Kernel: 4.11.11 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.2 xerus64
Machine: System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4 serial: PTS860X0348050CF642700
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 serial: 00000000 Bios: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 133x26 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 32.0GB (22.1% used)
Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 46 min Memory: 193.4/7991.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
#

I haven't finished setting up but it's working well so far.
Thanks.

EDIT: I finished installing my must haves with QPM, got sound working
with the TV speakers.
It's working well.
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Gordie

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 12:39    Post subject: No Mouse  

I have a wireless Microsoft Mouse and it won't work no matter what I try. Touchpad works.
The mouse works on Slacko64 but not Easy or Quirky

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Reneetje


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Location: The Netherlands, Fryslan - Foar de kofje net eamelje

PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 13:32    Post subject: I miss abiword 3.0.1  

Thank you mr. Kauler for the final release of Quirky 8.2
From your hands we get the one and only official and trustfull and stable distro, announced on distrowatch.com .

What works in Quirky 8.2 is
- pwidgets-2.5.6-x86_64.pet
- pmcputemp-0.63-x86_64.pet
- Google Chrome Version 59.0.3071.115 (Official Build) (64-bit)

What I miss, is abiword 3.0.1 like Quirky 8.0
Using package manager to install abiword 3.0.1 doesn't work.
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ETP


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Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 14:25    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64, released July 19, 2017
Subject description: Initial Test:
 

Install was to a 16GB USB2 stick using the 8GB image.
Items installed thus far:
    flashplayer-26.0.0.137-x86_64|Adobe Flash Player browser plugin and Preferences
    startup_sound-mk2|Startup sound with a few choices
    GetLatest64bitChromeVersionWoofQ-MK1|Get Latest Chrome Version
    libguess1_1.2-1.1|high-speed character set detection library
    librubberband2v5_1.8.1|audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting library
    libsdl2-2.0-0_2.0.4+dfsg1|Simple DirectMedia Layer
    libsndio6.1_1.1.0-2|Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD runtime libraries
    mpv_0.14.0|video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2
    google-chrome-stable_current_amd64|Access the Internet
    ListDD-2.0|List dynamic dependencies
    PupClockset-2.5|PupClockset manager
    PupSnap-2.5.1_Scrot-0.8_64Bit|PupSnap screen capture
    PupShutdown-2.3|PupShutdown manager
    PupControl-3.1.1|Control panel
    Target_uuid|Change DLNA Repository
    tree_1.7.0-3|displays an indented directory tree in color

The only issue so far was the poor quality/clarity of the fonts in Urxvt.(Very weak in HTOP with coloured background)
That was resolved by installing additional DejaVuSans fonts & using DejaVu Sans Mono:Bold with the settings and result
as in the following screenshot:
Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link below.
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09SEQ2U1lDdmJVMjQ

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 15:27    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64, released July 19, 2017
Subject description: Initial Test:
 

ETP wrote:

The only issue so far was the poor quality/clarity of the fonts in Urxvt.(Very weak in HTOP with coloured background)
That was resolved by installing additional DejaVuSans fonts & using DejaVu Sans Mono:Bold with the settings....

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B_iVVJCd9q09SEQ2U1lDdmJVMjQ



What? ETP, no offense, but what is heaven's name are you talking about here? You do know that Barry included URXT Terminal Setup Control (it is a Menu entry if one looked, common in all pups) where you have the choice of 16 different fonts and their variations, plus customizing font sizes, shapes, shades, etc. DejaVueSans is/was already installed....why a need was felt (HTOP jumps off my screens in terms of clarity after using URXT Terminal Setup to quickly adjust URXVT's fonts) makes no sense. But, as usual, I guess none of the world makes sense to me....like the previous poster above ETP complaining about missing Abiword 3.0.1 when LibreOffice---as in Libre-Blows-Abiword-off-Earth-Office---Barry already included. Absolutely unreal.

Barry, I will say it again, this 8.1.94-8.2 is by far the best thing you've put out since Precise 5.7. The work you did on it, especially from the other Quirkies (7.0s up thru Werewolf, Xenial & Slaq Quirks) & taking into account many of the comments/tips we made to you, is very noticeable. Thanks again for all your hard work. The 8.2-on is set to become a "classic" imho.
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 16:50    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64, released July 19, 2017  

Hi belham2,

If you have no problem with the existing fonts available in Urxvt Terminal Control then all well and good.

However, assuming that you looked at the screenshot, it troubles me that you failed to observe the Urxvt Terminal Control
window and the fact that the Monospaced font used is not present in 8.2

It may be that you need to take the advice in this video: Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQlKewo-kQY

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 17:23    Post subject:  

ETP wrote:
@linuxcbon & doggone

Sorry linuxcbon but I do not agree with your shotgun code approach i.e. making
everything in /etc/init.d/ executable.

Yes I know, but don't be so boring Twisted Evil . It was only a quick and dirty workaround. Barry does the "real" fixing. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 20:28    Post subject: Re: I miss abiword 3.0.1  

Reneetje wrote:
Thank you mr. Kauler for the final release of Quirky 8.2
From your hands we get the one and only official and trustfull and stable distro, announced on distrowatch.com .

What works in Quirky 8.2 is
- pwidgets-2.5.6-x86_64.pet
- pmcputemp-0.63-x86_64.pet
- Google Chrome Version 59.0.3071.115 (Official Build) (64-bit)

What I miss, is abiword 3.0.1 like Quirky 8.0
Using package manager to install abiword 3.0.1 doesn't work.


Awww, don't you like LibreOffice Writer? Smile

I am using Libreoffice now, for a few reasons, despite its size.

One reason is awhile back I had to download and fill in a form, that was a .docx file. It is a MS Office file, and had fields in it where I had to type in answers.
Anyway, Abiword just displayed a mess. LibreOffice displayed it perfectly and I was able to fill in the form and email it back.

Another reason. I discovered that Libreoffice is a very good WYSIWYG HTML editor, better than Composer in SeaMonkey -- with some caveats. Furthermore, now I'm trying to recall exactly what I did ...wanted to convert BaCon syntax-highlighted code from Geany to HTML, so as to be able to put it into a web page.
...no, can't recall exactly what I did, but did it with Libreoffice, SM wouldn't do it.

Then there's the LibreOffice Draw tool, I have gotten to like that.

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 20:32    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64, released July 19, 2017  

ETP wrote:
Hi belham2,

If you have no problem with the existing fonts available in Urxvt Terminal Control then all well and good.

However, assuming that you looked at the screenshot, it troubles me that you failed to observe the Urxvt Terminal Control
window and the fact that the Monospaced font used is not present in 8.2

It may be that you need to take the advice in this video: Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQlKewo-kQY


Note that for 8.2 I changed from Urxvtset to UrxvtControl.

The only reason I changed is because Urxvtset uses 'yad', and I reckon there are too many of those popup message thingies. Took the opportunity to get rid of one, as from the description Radky's UrxvtControl seems to do the same thing.

Let me know of any issues with UrxvtControl!

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