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#241 Post by backi »

Hallo Wolfgagang !
Du brauchst/darfst keinen changes folder manuel anlegen ....müsste automatisch geschehen.
Lösche den manuell angelegten changes folder wieder und starte einfach mit dem oben genannten Startmenue . Falls du damit zum Desktop booten kannst .....
ändere einfach mal die Wallpaper (HintergrundBild ).....und mach einen reboot ...
beim runterfahren müsstes du gefragt werden ob die Änderungen speichern oder nicht speichern willst .

Alles sehr seltsam.Normaler weise angegeben wie oben .....narrensicher.
Hast du vielleicht noch einen freien Usb-Stick den du nur mit Xenial Dog bestücken könntest .(Formatiert als ext4 mit grub4Dos mit oben genannten menu.lst Einträgen )

Ich habe selber mehrere "Dogs" auf meiner HardDisk frugal installiert (auf unterschiedlichen ext4 Partitionen ) .....auf dieser HardDisk ist auch eine ntfs Partition.Sowas habe ich niemals gesehen .
Macht mich echt ratlos .

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#242 Post by backi »

Andere Frage .
Hast du das XDOG ISO extrahiert und den live Folder auf den Stick kopiert oder hast du den Installer benutzt ?

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#243 Post by backi »

Ich glaube ich weiss jetzt wo der Fehler liegt .

Mach mal folgendes :
Die Zeile :

kernel /casper/vmlinuz from=/ noauto changes=EXIT:/

Häng mal casper/ dran :

kernel /casper/vmlinuz from=/ noauto changes=EXIT:/casper/

Das Ganze muss so aussehen:

title XenialDog - porteus-boot - save on EXIT changes=/changes folder
find --set-root /casper/vmlinuz
kernel /casper/vmlinuz from=/ noauto changes=EXIT:/casper/
initrd /casper/initrd1.xz

Ich entschuldige mich jetzt schon mal für meine Schusseligkeit .

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#244 Post by der-schutzhund »

Teste ich gleich mal aus....
backi wrote:Ich glaube ich weiss jetzt wo der Fehler liegt .

Mach mal folgendes :
Die Zeile :

kernel /casper/vmlinuz from=/ noauto changes=EXIT:/

Häng mal casper/ dran :

kernel /casper/vmlinuz from=/ noauto changes=EXIT:/casper/

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#245 Post by der-schutzhund »

Hallo Dr. Backi!

Booten mit Speicherdatei geht nach deinem letzten Vorschlag!
Ein Problem gelöst! Super Danke!

Jetzt zum zweiten Problem.
Nach einem "apt-get update" und einem "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-xenial" sind ja nun die aktuellen Treiber geladen.
Nach dem neuen booten ändert sich am Desktop nichts.
Vermutlich muss man von Hand irgendwie den passenden Treiber aktivieren.
Das kann dann aber nur von der Console aus funktionieren oder es gibt im Desktop auch eine Tastenkombination?

---------------------------------------------

Booting with memory file goes after your last suggestion!
A problem solved! Super thanks!

Now to the second problem.
After an "apt-get update" and "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-xenial" are now the current drivers loaded.
After the new boot, nothing changes on the desktop.
Probably one must activate by hand somehow the appropriate driver.
This can then only work from the console or there is also a keyboard shortcut in the desktop?

Wolfgang

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#246 Post by backi »

Hi Wolfgang !
Ich kenn mich mit dem Krempel überhaupt nicht aus ........aber ......
Ist es möglich einen Video Treiber durch einen Eintrag im Boot-Menue (oder sonstwo ) beim Startup zu laden/aktivieren ?
Vielleicht gibts dafür irgeneinen Parameter .
Vielleicht solltest du dein Problem NOCHMALS genau schildern ( in englisch) und speziell danach fragen .

Vielleicht muss man
radeon.modeset=0
oder
nomodeset
mit in das Boot-Menu einfügen ( WO?)

Hier hab ich einen link der sich mit dem Problem befassen KÖNNTE :

Fixing the black screen after grub boot-up (screen/video settings mismatch)

Problem: You got a black screen in place of the friendly graphical login screen at the end of the Linux Mint boot sequence.

Display misbehaving presentation includes:

Blincking cursor at top-left corner
Centered garbled lines of colorful squares
A plain black screen (but this may be related to other issues)
A kind but sticky message that X11 has re-started n times in n minutes
The Linux Mint rotating 'in process' icon

https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/842

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#247 Post by der-schutzhund »

Hi!

After I can save changes, I now have to fix the graphics error.
If I xenialdog boats then the wallpaper is displayed correctly. As soon as the buttons and menus appear, triangles are displayed and the texts can only be guessed. Xenial works in the background and menus etc. can be opened. But everything is somehow illegible and superimposed with triangles.
An update I have made with "apt-get update" and then loaded the driver with "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-xenial" and then saved and rebooted.

The error has not changed.
Then in the desktop as far as it was possible the resolution and the frequency changed. The error has not changed.
Under Windows is set: ATI Radeon X1200 Series with a resolution of 1200 x 800.
The approach with the setting in the boot menu of Grub4dos I have looked and tested. The TAB function does not work as described.
The question is, how can I activate the appropriate driver?

greetings

Wolfgang

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#248 Post by wiak »

It may be that xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-xenial is the wrong driver.

After running command:

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apt-get update
you could try:

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apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-radeon
and also:

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apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video-ati
to see other likely relevant opensource driver possibilities to try out.

EDIT: I suggest trying either:

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apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati


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apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
or 'perhaps' (less likely maybe):

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apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
Maybe best to purge previous one installed (such as radeon-lts-xenial) and then apt-get install the new one followed each time by a reboot.

The following site suggests xserver-xorg-video-ati might be the correct open source package required:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver

Whatever you try, you should check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see if there are error messages or anything to tell what is going on.

Unfortunately, I don't have a computer with your radeon card so can't test.

wiak

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#249 Post by der-schutzhund »

Hello Dr. wiak!

Success! Success!
With xserver-xorg-video-ati I have a clean picture!
Are the 600 lines from /var/log/xorg.0.log still interesting?
The keyboard layout is converted to german. So far OK!
Now I would like to know how the menus can be transferred into the German.

I have loaded language-pack-de and language-pack-de-base but this, however, obviously does not change anything.
Does the language still need to be changed somewhere?
Probably there is then additionally for each program a language translation?
A little problem I still have right with the congy on the right.

Wolfgang
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#250 Post by backi »

Hallo !
A little problem I still have right with the congy on the right.
All: the conky config files need a fix for the "NET: EXT:" display (website "http://ip.tupeux.com" for to show IP is down, probably forever)
Extract the attached archive "xenialdog-conky-fix.tar.gz", then open folder "xenialdog-conky-fix" and copy the files .conkyrc-live and .conkyrc-port to /root (overwrite existing)
Or: if you don't need the "NET: EXT:" display just delete only this string in the existing conkyrc-.. files:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &id=108706
Hier wird das Thema besprochen:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 549#901549

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#251 Post by backi »

Hallo !
Die in xenialdog-conky-fix.tar.gz Dateien .conkyrc-live und .conkyrc-port sind hidden (deswegen siehst du sie eventuell nicht.Du musst den Filebrowser hidden Dateien anzeigen lassen) .

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#252 Post by der-schutzhund »

Hi Dr. Backi!

Problem in conky is solved!
Next i have to change the Infos and Menu to german!
How can i do this?

How can I prevent this info from appearing every time you restart.
There is no point dock in the application menu!

Wolfgang
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#253 Post by backi »

Hallo Wolfgang !
Hast du hier diese Locales schon probiert :

https://github.com/DebianDog/xenialdog/ ... 1.squashfs
Sind allerdings für Xenial-Dog 32 bit .

Die Xenial Dog 64 Locales .....der Link funktioniert nicht .
Schau mal hier .....bißchen weiter unten ...
https://github.com/DebianDog/xenialdog

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#254 Post by der-schutzhund »

Hallo backi,

99-locales-XenialDog-2016-05-21.squashfs habe ich geladen wobei ich glaube es schon von Anfang an geladen zu haben.
Irgendwie ändert sich dadurch garnichts!

Muss noch irgendwo deutsch aktiviert werden?
Bei Trinity gibt es dafür ja einen Menüeintrag!

Wifi-Netzwerk ist übrigens auch eingerichtet!
Geht nun über autostart.

Wie bekomme ich diese blöde Infotafel zu ObenGL weg?

Ach übrigens, ich verwende jetzt erst mal die 32bit-Version!

LG

Wolfgang

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#255 Post by backi »

Hallo Wolfgang !
I am using in the moment Xenial Dog 32.......don`t have a 64 bit Machine .
Did load the locales.squashfs (for Xenial Dog 32).......but can not find any menu entry .Where to change locales ?How to make it work ?
A while ago did manage to make them work .
But can not exactly remember how .
Info ObenGL .....no clue .

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#256 Post by fredx181 »

Hi backi, wolfgang,
Did load the locales.squashfs (for Xenial Dog 32).......but can not find any menu entry .Where to change locales ?How to make it work ?
A while ago did manage to make them work .
But can not exactly remember how .
Here's what I would do:
The locales squashfs download for 64-bit:
https://github.com/DebianDog/xenialdog/ ... 8.squashfs
After downoad, mount it (by clicking on it)
From mounpoint "/mnt/+root+Downloads+99-locales-Xenialdog64-2017-01-18.squashfs/usr/share/locale/" copy folders de and de_DE
and paste in to /usr/share/locale folder in the filesystem.
Install locales package and configure:

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apt-get install locales
dpkg-reconfigure locales
And choose de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 (press 'Space' key)
Last step choose as default: de_DE.UTF-8

Reboot with save

The openbox menu is probably not translated then, there's some trick for it but can't remember.
Wolfgang wrote:How can I prevent this info from appearing every time you restart.
RE: cairo-dock message at start
At the right of "Remember this choice" there is checkbox (kind of invisible, but it's there) (theme bug ?)

EDIT: Changing menu items language (partial), go to Advanced settings > Obmenu-generator > Menu Config
Find almost at the end the line starting with "name_keys" replace the whole line with:

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  "name_keys"           => ['Name[de]', 'GenericName[de]', 'Name'],
Category names still in english, (most) official Ubuntu application names should be in German

EDIT2: Category names can be changed manually in Menu Schema (from obmenu-generator advanced), see this block:
Change the "LABEL" names as desired to your language

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    #          NAME            LABEL                ICON
    {cat => ['utility',     'Accessories', 'applications-utilities']},
    {cat => ['development', 'Development', 'applications-development']},
    {cat => ['education',   'Education',   'applications-science']},
    {cat => ['game',        'Games',       'applications-games']},
    {cat => ['graphics',    'Graphics',    'applications-graphics']},
    {cat => ['audiovideo',  'Multimedia',  'applications-multimedia']},
    {cat => ['Modules',     'Module Tools','application-x-squashfs2']},
    {cat => ['network',     'Network',     'applications-internet']},
    {cat => ['office',      'Office',      'applications-office']},
    {cat => ['other',       'Other',       'applications-other']},
    {cat => ['settings',    'Settings',    'applications-accessories']},
    {cat => ['system',      'System',      'applications-system']},
     {cat => ['audio',      'Audio',      'applications-multimedia']},  
Fred

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#257 Post by der-schutzhund »

HI Fred and backi!

Thank you for the instructions! Worked. My dog now speaks German (in any case partial).
Slowly it becomes more and more as I imagine it!
I noticed now that no sound is heard.
How can I activate the speaker?
EDIT: Believe the sound goes now!
RE: cairo-dock message at start
At the right of "Remember this choice" there is checkbox (kind of invisible, but it's there) (theme bug ?)
There are only the two buttons for yes and no. There is no matter what I click! A selection button is not there and where should I then click?

For my Variomenü I have to edit the file in the is defined where on the desktop is a button. Can someone tell me how the name of this file and where to find it?
There is certainly a command to rebuild the desktop without going to the console?

wolfgang

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#258 Post by fredx181 »

Hi Wolfgang, nice you have language set to German working now !
Quote:
RE: cairo-dock message at start
At the right of "Remember this choice" there is checkbox (kind of invisible, but it's there) (theme bug ?)

There are only the two buttons for yes and no. There is no matter what I click! A selection button is not there and where should I then click?
Did I understand well that you said you don't want to display the message about opengl everytime ?
In that case, just on the right of "Remember this choice" (which probably now is in German for you) click with the mouse and you'll see small 'v' (checked) clicking again it will be unchecked, it's a bit inconvenient, I admit.
After you did check the checkbox, I'd recommend clicking No (no opengl), and you should not see the message again.
For my Variomenü I have to edit the file in the is defined where on the desktop is a button. Can someone tell me how the name of this file and where to find it?
There is certainly a command to rebuild the desktop without going to the console?
Sorry, don't understand what you mean, can you elaborate some more ?

Fred

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#259 Post by der-schutzhund »

No problem!

I have a completely separate menu organization.
With the Variomenu the buttons in the WBar stand for groups.
Each group can then have many programs.

For example, In the WBar the button for Internet pressed so I delete all buttons on the desktop except the buttons for the drives.
Then the new buttons for the Internet group are displayed on the Desktop.

Thus, many programs can be displayed in a structured manner. Otherwise, there are only two other ways to manage many programs:
1. You have all buttons for all Programs on the desktop which is very confusing
2. In a text menu where you must always search and work with sub-levels
In my Variomenu there are only two levels:
1. The group button
2. The program

Via the groups buttons I start a script for example scriptinternet.sh
This script overwrites the file in which the shown buttons are defined with the file which has the position and name of the buttons for Interent. Then I let the desktop rebuild. The extremely clear menu system is finished!

Of course there are still a few things like the installation of new programs on a page such as a new browser which also goes automatically.
But this is not a big problem!
Perhaps the Variomenü would be something as a module for the dogs?

Wolfgang
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#260 Post by der-schutzhund »

In that case, just on the right of "Remember this choice" (which probably now is in German for you) click with the mouse and you'll see small 'v' (checked) clicking again it will be unchecked, it's a bit inconvenient, I admit.
Found :D

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