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perdido


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PostPosted: Wed 23 Aug 2017, 06:04    Post subject:  

Battery icon not showing in tray

666philb wrote:
hi ttuuxxx,

the battery monitor powerapplet_tray is missing icons and isn't showing in the tray. the one from tahrpups repos works and it also has pemasus low battery warning.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Aug 2017, 06:57    Post subject:  

perdido wrote:
Dogradio from fredx runs great on ttuuxxx debian stretch.
It requires three packages available from debian stretch repository to run. This the best internet radio program I have ever seen.

dogradio available here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_gaN1QXLwtkVUNlSFYzSF8yUXc/view?usp=sharing
Hosted by stemsee - Thanks stemsee Exclamation

Libs needed for dogradio available here
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/conky/conky-all_1.10.6-1_i386.deb

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/liba/libaudclient/libaudclient2_3.5~rc2-1_i386.deb

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmms2/libxmmsclient6_0.8+dfsg-18_i386.deb

Rock On! Thanks fredx Exclamation

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Thanks perdido !

Newer version 0.0.7 can be downloaded from here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=932152#932152

I'm surprised btw that you need libaudclient2 and libxmmsclient6
I thought just yad , mplayer and conky are required.

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Aug 2017, 07:24    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:


Newer version 0.0.7 can be downloaded from here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=932152#932152

I'm surprised btw that you need libaudclient2 and libxmmsclient6
I thought just yad , mplayer and conky are required.

Fred


Does not need libaudclient2 and libxmmsclient6, thanks for straightening me out Exclamation

Fixed my other post to reflect that.

Thanks fredx!

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Aug 2017, 08:28    Post subject:  

Have a look at radiotray available in the Debian repositories (apt-get install radiotray) as a possible alternative to DogRadio. Running it adds a aerial type icon to the tray and right click ... configure radios ... you can add/edit/remove stations as desired.


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PostPosted: Thu 24 Aug 2017, 00:34    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
Have a look at radiotray available in the Debian repositories (apt-get install radiotray) as a possible alternative to DogRadio. Running it adds a aerial type icon to the tray and right click ... configure radios ... you can add/edit/remove stations as desired.



Fine, but I think it is good to support app/util development done on the forum - most of which are tiny and can be used/modded to work on either Puppy itself or on the various Dogs. Otherwise, just use full Debian and what Debian provides and don't bother with development work here so just close the forum! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Aug 2017, 01:46    Post subject:  

radiotray dependencies size:
Code:
puppy@debian:~$ sudo apt-get install radiotray
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
.............................................
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gconf-service gconf2 gconf2-common gir1.2-glib-2.0 gstreamer0.10-gconf
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly liba52-0.7.4 libaa1
  libass5 libavc1394-0 libblas-common libblas3 libcdaudio1 libdca0
  libdirac-encoder0 libdv4 libdvdnav4 libenca0 libfaad2 libfftw3-double3
  libflite1 libgconf-2-4 libgfortran3 libgirepository-1.0-1 libgme0
  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
  libgstreamer0.10-0 libgudev-1.0-0 libiec61883-0 libkate1 liblapack3
  libmhash2 libmimic0 libmodplug1 libmpcdec6 libmpeg2-4 libofa0 libopenal-data
  libopenal1 libopencore-amrnb0 libopencore-amrwb0 libpython-stdlib
  libpython2.7 libpython2.7-minimal libpython2.7-stdlib libraptor2-0
  librasqal3 librdf0 libshout3 libsidplay1 libslv2-9 libsoundtouch0
  libspandsp2 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtwolame0 libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0
  libvisual-0.4-0 libvo-aacenc0 libvo-amrwbenc0 libwavpack1 libwildmidi-config
  libwildmidi1 libxslt1.1 libyajl2 libzbar0 libzvbi-common libzvbi0 python
  python-cairo python-dbus python-dbus-dev python-gi python-glade2
  python-gobject python-gobject-2 python-gst0.10 python-gtk2 python-libxml2
  python-lxml python-minimal python-notify python-numpy python-support
  python-xdg python2.7 python2.7-minimal radiotray
0 upgraded, 93 newly installed, 0 to remove and 104 not upgraded.
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After this operation, 118 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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dogradio dependencies size:
Code:
puppy@debian:~$ sudo apt-get install dogradio
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  conky conky-std gtk2-engines-murrine liblua5.1-0 streamripper
Suggested packages:
  apcupsd audacious moc mpd xmms2 kstreamripper streamtuner
Recommended packages:
  murrine-themes
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  conky conky-std dogradio gtk2-engines-murrine liblua5.1-0 streamripper
0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 107 not upgraded.
Need to get 1470 kB of archives.
After this operation, 5004 kB of additional disk space will be used.
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Aug 2017, 07:51    Post subject:  

saintless wrote:
radiotray dependencies size: ....

Radiotray is obviously using python which in your example case gets installed as a dependency. If python were already installed, such as if Openshot/Blender were already installed then the to-be-installed dependencies comparison would be different. For instance if radiotray versus dogradio were already installed on two systems, and both then installed openshot and blender, you might look and see that the former system was pulling in fewer dependencies for that openshot/blender install.
wiak wrote:

Otherwise, just use full Debian and what Debian provides and don't bother with development work here so just close the forum!

Or ... such additions/changes could be targetted to be incorporated into the main core i.e. Debian repositories and/or WoofCE. As a example Debian LiveCD looks to be in its death throes due to lack of support/development interest.

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Aug 2017, 16:12    Post subject:  

rufwoof wrote:
Radiotray is obviously using python which in your example case gets installed as a dependency.

It would be obviously if you give link to the package dependencies like:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/sound/radiotray
Python application depending on gstreamer plugins or much smaller gtkdialog/yad alternative is the real question and the winner is obvious for Puppy linux like system. Keep linux small and fast is the point of this forum and Debian live suicide has nothing to do with this subject.

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Aug 2017, 17:10    Post subject:  

saintless wrote:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/sound/radiotray
...
Debian live suicide has nothing to do with this subject.

Has nothing to do with Jessie either.

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 07:43    Post subject:  

This pet fixes the error "fail to launch /unable to load" when running the following programs from the JWM Menu.
Menu-->Graphic-->Image Viewer (gpicview)
Menu-->Documents-->ePDFview (epdfview)
Menu-->Business-->mtCelledit (mtcelledit)
Menu-->Multimedia-->Gnome-Mplayer (gnone-mplayer)
Menu-->Business-->xcalc (removes broken xcalc from menu)

This pet fixes the .desktop files of the mentioned programs by removing the environmental variable from the program execution and then runs fixmenus to fix the menu.

Edit: added 3 other menu items, original pet was just gnome-mplayer
Edit: added xcalc fix that removes broken xcalx from the menu

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PostPosted: Mon 28 Aug 2017, 02:02    Post subject:  

Hello all.

If you ever need to edit comments (aka tags) in ogg files, mp3, flac, etc.,
I puppy-fied the Debian Stretch package for EasyTag-2.4.3.

Download site for the deb archive:
https://debian.pkgs.org/9/debian-main-i386/easytag_2.4.3-1_i386.deb.html

The EasyTag site:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/EasyTAG

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Comments Wink :

Simple to use, handy when you need it.

It's a Gnome app.

The rendering on my monitor was not terrible, but it does the job.

Don't let it search for your music files, it will take forever. Drill down the
file tree manually, it will be faster to get to the music dir containing the
files you need to process.

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Available here for the next month:
easytag_2.4.3-1_i386.pet (executable, plus the libopus library that's
missing in our DPupStretch-7.0. I installed and tested this pet package
and you don't need anything else.)
http://www107.zippyshare.com/v/6JYVO0MN/file.html

easytag_2.4.3-1_i386_NLS.pet (locales only)
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/bLI0FCw0/file.html

IHTH someone.

Have a great day!

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 14:00    Post subject:  

Hello all.

I built another DpupStretch-7.0a1 yesterday evening from the "rationalize"
branch of woof-CE.

It went ok. It took me about an hour and a half to build it. The only choice
of Linux kernel for this DPupStretch is Linux kernel 4.1.38.

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Four bugs, AFAICT, easily fixed:

-- netsurf didn't have its exec, but everything else. Thanks to gjuhasz
for an easy fix. The title of his thread says version 3.4, but gjuhasz is
offering the latest v. 3.6 of Netsurf in the smokey01 repo.

-- 01micko's netmon_wce is missing. You need it because otherwise you
don't really know if you're on-line. It's available in this thread, or import
it directly from slim6 or similar slacko Pup. It hasn't changed since 2015.
Don't forget to make a link of it in /root/Startup.

-- jwm was always showing a blue title bar for windows, whatever its
theme. Annoying if you do not have a background in tones of blue. So I
installed icewm as the main WM, from the PPM. You can get some
beautiful modern themes for icewm at
https://www.box-look.org/browse/cat/142/ord/latest

Again, once you've installed icewm, don't forget to put a link from
/usr/bin/icewmtray in /root/Startup, otherwise your tray icons won't show.

-- Time setting is always the pits, for me, anyway. To cure it, you may
want to install htpdate ASAP, because some sites you need to access at
this set-up stage (including the Debian repos, haha) won't let you in if the
time "is late" on your computer.

For that reason, a "petification" of the htpdate deb archive is attached
below. Please recycle X to get it working after install. The time in the tray
bar may take a couple of seconds to adjust.

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-- If you wish to write or calculate, you'll have to install abiword and
gnumeric from PPM. They are not included in the build. It's easy to do, so
it's barely inconvenient.

-- As to major web browsers, you may wish to refer to Mike Walsh's and
other forum members' threads on this forum to install your choice of browser.

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A screen capture is attached. As you can see the rest is customization.

I hope this revives people's interest in the stable and excellent DPups.

BFN.

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P.S. Credit for backdrop in screen capture:
Photo # 272157 by Simon Matzinger on unsplash.com
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 18:09    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
The only choice
of Linux kernel for this DPupStretch is Linux kernel 4.1.38.

Do we know if it is possible to compile in a different kernel if we edit the build conf file in woof-CE? I did my first ever woofing the other day and was looking at this.
musher0 wrote:
-- jwm was always showing a blue title bar for windows, whatever its
theme.

This is because the theme configuration in JWM was changed quite fundamentally. Newer JWM will not recognise the older themes and so the windows default to that blue colour. I have always liked JWM and am running the latest 2.3.7 release. I made a few themes for it which have the "motif" border decorations. I could post those but folks may want to produce their own themes in accordance with personal taste.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 19:11    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
was looking at this.
musher0 wrote:
-- jwm was always showing a blue title bar for windows, whatever its theme.

This is because the theme configuration in JWM was changed quite fundamentally. Newer JWM will not recognise the older themes and so the windows default to that blue colour. I have always liked JWM and am running the latest 2.3.7 release.

I'm running 2.3.6 and prefer just having the single .jwmrc file (no themes or configuration via gui dialogs etc.) My current contains ...
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<JWM>


 <!--------------------- Startup --------------------->


    <StartupCommand>sleep 10;openoffice-4.1.3 -quickstart -nologo -nodefault</StartupCommand>
    <StartupCommand>pcmanfm --desktop</StartupCommand>
    <StartupCommand>sleep 7;osmo</StartupCommand>
    <StartupCommand>sleep 9;volumeicon</StartupCommand>
    <!-- <StartupCommand>setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp</StartupCommand> -->


 <!---------------------- Icons  --------------------->

    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/pixmaps</IconPath>
    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/apps/</IconPath>
    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps</IconPath>
    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/actions</IconPath>
    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/devices</IconPath>
    <IconPath>/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/places</IconPath>


 <!--------------------- The root menu. --------------------->


    <RootMenu onroot="12">
        <Program label="Edit .jwmrc" icon="/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/actions/edit-select-all.png">leafpad /home/user/.jwmrc;jwm -restart</Program>
        <Program label="Exit jwm" icon="/usr/local/share/icons/Adwaita/48x48/actions/application-exit.png">/home/user/bin/cleanclosejwm</Program>
        <Separator/>
        <Program label="Reboot" icon="view-refresh.png">shutdown -r now</Program>
        <Program label="Power Off" icon="process-stop.png">shutdown -p now</Program>
    </RootMenu>



 <!-------------------- Tray  ------------------------------->


    <Tray x="0" y="0" height="30" autohide="off"> <!-- y -1 for bottom, 0 for top -->
        <TaskList maxwidth="2560"/>
        <TrayButton icon="/home/user/Pictures/files.png">exec:pcmanfm /home/user</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton icon="firefox.png">exec:firefox</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton icon="/home/user/Pictures/terminal.png">exec:xterm -geometry 88x23+0+0</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton icon="/home/user/Pictures/notepad.png">exec:leafpad</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton icon="/home/user/Pictures/calculator.png">exec:galculator</TrayButton>
        <TrayButton icon="mtpaint.png">exec:mtpaint</TrayButton>
        <Dock/>
        <Swallow name="xload" width="32">xload -nolabel -bg black -fg red -hl white</Swallow>
        <Clock format="%a %d %b %l:%M"><Button mask="123">root:1</Button></Clock>
    </Tray>



 <!--------------------- Visual Styles --------------------->


   <ButtonClose>/home/user/Pictures/xbm/close.png</ButtonClose>
   <ButtonMax>/home/user/Pictures/xbm/max.png</ButtonMax>
   <ButtonMaxActive>/home/user/Pictures/xbm/max.png</ButtonMaxActive>
   <ButtonMin>/home/user/Pictures/xbm/min.png</ButtonMin>
   <WindowStyle>
        <Font>Sans-0</Font>
        <Width>6</Width>
        <Height>20</Height>
        <Corner>0</Corner>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>gray60:gray10</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.5</Opacity>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>white</Foreground>
            <Background>blue:#0077CC</Background>
            <Outline>blue</Outline>
            <Opacity>1.0</Opacity>
        </Active>
   </WindowStyle>
   <TaskListStyle>
      <Font>Sans-10:bold</Font>
      <Active>
             <Foreground>white</Foreground>
             <Background>#0077CC:blue</Background>
      </Active>
      <Foreground>white</Foreground>
      <Background>gray60:gray30</Background>
    </TaskListStyle>
    <TrayStyle group="false" list="all">
        <Font>Sans-12</Font>
        <Background>#333333</Background>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.75</Opacity>
    </TrayStyle>
    <PagerStyle> <!-- Using brightside hot corner to show desktop so not used -->
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Foreground>#555555</Foreground>
        <Background>#333333</Background>
        <Text>#FFFFFF</Text>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#0077CC</Foreground>
            <Background>#004488</Background>
        </Active>
    </PagerStyle>
    <MenuStyle>
        <Font>Sans-12</Font>
        <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
        <Background>#DCDAD5</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
            <Background>#4B6983</Background>
        </Active>
        <Opacity>0.85</Opacity>
    </MenuStyle>
    <PopupStyle>
        <Font>Sans-12</Font>
        <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
        <Background>#999999</Background>
    </PopupStyle>
    <ClockStyle>
        <Font>Sans-11:bold</Font>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <!-- <Background>#000000</Background> -->
    </ClockStyle>


   
 <!--------------------- Behaviour --------------------->


    <Desktops width="1" height="1">
        <Background type="solid">#0A0D2D</Background>
    </Desktops>

    <!-- Double click speed (in milliseconds) -->
    <DoubleClickSpeed>400</DoubleClickSpeed>

    <!-- Double click delta (in pixels) -->
    <DoubleClickDelta>2</DoubleClickDelta>

    <!-- The focus model (sloppy or click) -->
    <FocusModel>click</FocusModel>

    <!-- The snap mode (none, screen, or border) -->
    <SnapMode distance="10">border</SnapMode>

    <!-- The move mode (outline or opaque) -->
    <MoveMode coordinates="off">opaque</MoveMode>

    <!-- The resize mode (outline or opaque) -->
    <ResizeMode coordinates="off">opaque</ResizeMode>



 <!--------------------- Key bindings --------------------->


    <Key key="Up">up</Key>
    <Key key="Down">down</Key>
    <Key key="Right">right</Key>
    <Key key="Left">left</Key>
    <Key key="h">left</Key>
    <Key key="j">down</Key>
    <Key key="k">up</Key>
    <Key key="l">right</Key>
    <Key key="Return">select</Key>
    <Key key="Escape">escape</Key>

    <Key mask="" key="Print">exec:scrot -d 3</Key>
    <Key mask="" key="Menu">root:1</Key>
    <Key mask="" key="Super_R">exec:gmrun</Key>

    <Key mask="A" key="Tab">nextstacked</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F1">root:1</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F10">maximize</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Right">rdesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Left">ldesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Up">udesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Down">ddesktop</Key>

</JWM>

and looks like (clickable thumbnail)


With hand editing its a relatively easy syntax to learn especially if you have examples to reference, and you can tweak things that little bit more. For instance I've moved over to narrowing Windows title bars right down and removed the windows title text as that's shown in my panels tasklist anyway and I just need enough of a title in order to grab/move the window around (rather than having to right click on the tasklist and select 'move'). Looks better with that narrower title bar when a window is full screen



My preferred base system is just xorg, jwm and pcmanfm as running pcmanfm --desktop also provides desktop icons as well as being the file manager. I don't even bother with installing gtk themes now either and just settle for the in-build defaults. No menu either (excepting the small exit/reboot type menu that I have pop up when the panels clock is clicked) as I have my most used programs in the panel and open the filemanager showing the /usr/share/applications folder content to see other programs, or use the right WIN key to pop up gmrun i.e. enter part of the program name and press TAB to list matches, select and ENTER to run.
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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 20:47    Post subject:  

I still love this ttuuxxx release.

Maybe he is just too busy.
As I probably stated before this is a great Rescue Puppy.

I have tried it on many PCs that are just hard going to
boot with some Puppies.

HPs, Dells amongst them.

One problem was printing...
just wanted a PDF file screenshot for Internet banking.
Maybe it's a cups thing....anyway not a biggie for me.

I found out on this I had to >>> Print to File
then it worked. I had never seen this in any other Puppy.

I like it because it is a simple Puppy.
Still has Rox file manager.
None of the other window managers.

Haven't found a PC where I booted and had to fiddle screen sizes.

Basic.
But don't be fooled basic doesn't mean crap.
Crafted is the theme here.
To me this should have been released as an Official Puppy.

You really can feel the love in this thing.

""""""""
For my own info.
Hard to find the download link sometimes.

I recommend this to posters here and Whirlpool Forum.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/

Woof CE Debian Stretch

Download from here:

http://smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/WoofCe/

stretch-7.0.0a1.iso 22-Mar-2017 05:39 285M

Chris.
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