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#21 Post by MU » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 00:18

http://texasangel.org/images/twin.jpg

raffy · #22 Post by **raffy** » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 04:32

Very interesting, and will be great for an embedded Puppy. Maybe this is what "black gold" means.

Nathan F · #23 Post by **Nathan F** » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 05:35

Ack! My partition just got wiped out. The one that had the puppy-unleashed folder I was working from. I was installing Xubuntu out of curiosity and the installer kept wanting to format that partition no matter what I wanted. I thought I finally had it deselected and now, lo and behold the data on it is trashed. I knew there was a reason I didn't like Ubuntu...

I guess I'll have to recreate it from the point I was at earlier.

Nathan

jcoder24 · #24 Post by **jcoder24** » Sun 24 Sep 2006, 15:39

How about centericq for instant messaging

Nathan F · #25 Post by **Nathan F** » Mon 25 Sep 2006, 19:23

I'll have to have a look at centericq because honestly I've never used it. Right now I have Tinyirc in the iso and it's both tiny and easy to use, but having access to more protocals than just irc would be a plus.

I've found another program definately worth looking into. It's a mail client called elmo. The cool thing is that unlike most MUA's elmo can do pop and smtp, so it's not neccesasary to have a mail server installed. It would be even better if it could do imap also but I guess you can't have everything. Elmo even comes with a small configuration program in perl that will write a config file for you, so it's relatively easy to set it up for your accounts. I'm pretty convinced it will go in.

Nathan

Nathan F · #26 Post by **Nathan F** » Tue 26 Sep 2006, 19:59

Okay, elmo is definately in. One thing that bothers me is that the maintainer seems to have lost interest in the project, but in it's present state it's really usable and quite nice once you learn the basic keybindings.

Centericq is also great, but at over 3megs is too large to include. I've made a package and will see that it is available for download. Tinyirc works pretty well for irc, however.

Nathan

raffy · #27 Post by **raffy** » Wed 27 Sep 2006, 00:28

This may not really fit a OneBone-as-client config, but an advantage of CLI is that you can easily add a server package to it. And Nathan's grafpup LAMP server has been a wonder in GUI. I wonder if a package can be made available for CLI - lots of teachers will be using it in the future.

OneBone with Grafpup server is definitely getting into this page.

Nathan F · #28 Post by **Nathan F** » Wed 27 Sep 2006, 02:26

You know, I've given it some thought and it wouldn't be too terribly hard to port some of the wizards over to using ncurses dialogs rather than xmessages or xdialog, or whatever. This is potentially a whole separate distro, but I'm too busy to maintain it. So if anybody is interested please do build on this.

Nathan

Lobster · #29 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 27 Sep 2006, 07:42

I hope someone takes up Nathans offer.
What is the minimum spec this will run on? I ran Barrys initial Onebone. A CLI only (Command Line Interface) Puppy is to scary for a GUI junky like me. I still have c:> prompt nightmares . . .
However for some it is Puppy Heaven, having potential for security, diagnostic and minimalist use. It is also useful as Puppy does make use of CLI tools and these are often required additions. It also gives an entry point for those machines that require something special.

A very different Puppy.

debernardis · #30 Post by **debernardis** » Wed 27 Sep 2006, 11:55

Nathan F wrote:Well I have an answer for those of you who want to open multiple programs and have them all visible at once, and it can be done without X windows. Here's a screenshot of the venerable program Twin (TerminalWIndowManager). I can't believe it took me so long to find it.

Would you mind publishing a reference on the forum? It is interesting, I have tried googling a little bit but seems difficult to find.

EDIT: eheheh must be this: http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/

Nathan F · #31 Post by **Nathan F** » Wed 27 Sep 2006, 13:29

Yes, that is the program. I will be uploading source for all of these programs shortly, BTW.

Nathan

Yanagi · #32 Post by **Yanagi** » Thu 19 Oct 2006, 08:04

screen would be nice if it isn't already there

http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html

very useful for doing many things at once without switching terminals

I too would like too see a CLI + LAMP solution. I'm getting one of those microclient jrs. and having the distro small enough to operate well in 128MB with LAMP may be tricky otherwise...

Keeping an eye on this thread.

Nathan F · #33 Post by **Nathan F** » Thu 19 Oct 2006, 09:18

Yes, I'm aware of screen, but no, I didn't put it into the iso I created. I chose twin instead, as I just like it better. I realize they have slightly different purposes, but there is a lot of overlap to them.

I still intend to create a few Onebone specific packages, so probably I'll package up screen as well. I have a few goodies like centericq to package up already.

primalphunk · #34 Post by **primalphunk** » Mon 13 Nov 2006, 03:26

I love your idea for this CLI version of puppy. Is it possible that cjots could find its way into onebone? I have a kde desktop on my main debian machine and love kjots so of course would love to see cjots make its way into puppy. Tuxcards is not my kind of outliner and besides...it's not a console app like cjots.

Hmmm...any musicians out there thinking about a low-latency console based musical puppy? Would it be called pupmudi? I've seen a few interesting packages(like rosegarden) that somebody on the forum has dotpupped that I was totally unprepared for. If I knew enough about linux and programming I'd probably go mad trying to do something like this.

peace,
James

jediborger · #35 Post by **jediborger** » Mon 13 Nov 2006, 23:56

I don't know if this package might be too big, but there is a CLI version of gaim called gaim-text and obviously supports many protocols and would be easy for users to adapt to.

http://gaim.sourceforge.net/sean/blog/gaim-text

Just something else to think of.

Edit: Here's the link to the actual files. It's an rpm but they don't seem to post the source code anywhere.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfile ... _id=462444

bodigi · #36 Post by **bodigi** » Sat 18 Nov 2006, 17:38

hi i amaze how simple but useful can be this project.I tried onebone2.10 what can i say - congratulation. It's my favourite.

bodigi

rufwoof · #37 Post by **rufwoof** » Fri 01 Sep 2017, 21:24

Decade+ later revival of a very old thread ...

fbgs (installable as apt-get fbi from debian) caters for console based framebuffer display of pdf files. The graphical (image) quality isn't as good as with green http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuwnBrb5Uc (skip to around 2:50 into that video to see a brief look at the quality difference when using green) but is sufficient for modest viewing purposes.

wget a remote html web page (most often you have to include the --no-check-certificate parameter nowadays as usually it will be a https web page), perhaps pipe that through html2ps and ps2pdf ... and into fbgs and you'd have a graphical view of the web page from within a terminal/console session.

You can zoom in and out with the - and + keys (scroll around using arrow keys)

fbi can be used as a terminal based (linux framebuffer) image viewer (fbi some.jpg)

A bunch of other tools https://kkovacs.eu/cool-but-obscure-unix-tools and http://www.tuxarena.com/2011/06/15-grea ... -terminal/

rufwoof · #38 Post by **rufwoof** » Fri 01 Sep 2017, 22:20

Nathan F wrote:Well I have an answer for those of you who want to open multiple programs and have them all visible at once, and it can be done without X windows. Here's a screenshot of the venerable program Twin (TerminalWIndowManager). I can't believe it took me so long to find it.

You can do most of the things you would expect from a regular WM including opening multiple windows, resizing, moving, minimize, maximize, and if the GPM daemon is running it can all be done with the mouse also. So the only major component missing would be a root window.

I've packaged it up and if the extra themes are removed it comes in at around 600K, so while not light this is way smaller than adding Xvesa along with a WM and terminal emulator. So I think when I build the final iso I'll add this program. I may also create the minimal X package I talked about earlier, but like I said not for the Onebone iso.

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YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW9E-8aXfdc

... and looks like its still being maintained https://github.com/cosmos72/twin

ally · #39 Post by **ally** » Fri 01 Sep 2017, 23:58

in case somebody is looking:

http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux ... elinks.iso

http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux ... elinks.iso

rufwoof · #40 Post by **rufwoof** » Sat 02 Sep 2017, 17:02

Wow ally. Impressive.

Just been messing around with framebuffer imageviewer (in Debian that's available using apt-get install fbi) that provides a framebuffer to display images within ... from within a terminal session. Using the extracted individual frames from a animated gif all saved to its own folder/directory you can cd to that folder and run fbi *.gif to view each image individually ... and step through them one by one by using the PgUp key. Hold that key and it flashes through them at such a rate that its as good as viewing the actual animated gif. I guess you could even create/watch a movie that way assuming you could ensure the sound being played separately was sync'd in some way.

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OneBone resurrection

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server (package)

Where's this TWIN thing?

gaim-text for IM

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