Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog

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fredx181
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#521 Post by fredx181 »

zagreb999 wrote:hi fred,
peasywifi is absolutely worst
wifi manager... it can not work...
tested many times...
please, include frisbee...
it is the best in linux world!!!
Well, that's much too easy, in my opinion, to blame peasywifi.
There are a few other possible reasons for a failure of getting wireless connection, e.g. not having the correct firmware installed etc...
please, include frisbee...
Looks like you are missing the point about the purpose of this project.
It's about building a live system to include exactly what you choose.
So, go ahead and choose frisbee, wicd, or whatever to include in the build.

Fred

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frisbee

#522 Post by zagreb999 »

hi fred
your interpretation is wrong...

that is not only my opinion,
but from linux forums...

regards.


http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/applic ... nager.html

http://antix.freeforums.org/ceni-wont-w ... t6784.html

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#523 Post by rcrsn51 »

Thanks guys.

@dancytron: The PWF main screen has an Info button. It would have showed you the cryptic interface name, which is a clue that something had changed in your setup.

[Edit] I stand corrected. The Info button runs the Puppy "ipinfo" program. It only shows the active interfaces. In your case, you had none. You would need to run Ethernet > I/F to see the cryptic name.

@Fred: Systemd is a dependency of synaptic. I wonder if omitting synaptic from the build has other side effects.

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#524 Post by jd7654 »

fredx181 wrote:I changed the ddog.conf. Has much better overview now IMO
Kept the old one also on github, just in case (renamed to ddog.conf.old).
https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/configs/
Looks good. Yeah, that is much better, easier to read and edit.
I did kinda get a package parent reducer script working. But I think that since the mklive script handles redundant packages just fine, it's probably better to leave them in the configs to show what is intending to be put in the recipe for clarity anyway.

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#525 Post by dancytron »

fredx181 wrote:Hi Dan,

I tested your minimal google-chrome setup without synaptic and for me it's the same, no network connection.
/snip/
And thanks again for finding, you seem to have talent to detect hidden bugs !

New mklive-stretch:
mklive-stretch script
Thanks, I'll give it a try later today. I thought I tried the ens2 name, but maybe I didn't do it right. Thanks to you and rcrsn51 for troubleshooting this.
fredx181 wrote: Another thing, about chrome to run as user puppy, this works for me also

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#!/bin/sh

xhost +local:puppy

su puppy -c "/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --user-data-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/user --disk-cache-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/cache --disk-cache-size=10000000 --media-cache-size=10000000"
That way there's no need to have gksu installed (however it doesn't make much difference in space used, chrome package is huge anyway !)

Fred
Thanks, I'll give that a try. I originally tried to use su and couldn't figure it out. Gksu does take a lot of space since it depends on python.

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#526 Post by fredx181 »

rcrsn51 wrote:@Fred: Systemd is a dependency of synaptic. I wonder if omitting synaptic from the build has other side effects.
One side effect is of course that you cannot boot with systemd.
Btw, for info, with systemd installed, it doesn't boot using systemd automatically, it can be forced though by adding to the kernel boot command line:

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init=/bin/systemd
Installing the package "systemd-sysv" will boot with systemd automatically, without it, it will boot by default with the traditional initscripts.

Fred

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#527 Post by Doglover »

Full DebianDog build using frugal.

I'm looking for the screensaver settings and set time settings.

I would like to disable the screensaver and set the correct time. All I see is timezone.

Very nice job, I like it very much. My main distro has been siduction, and it is very similar.

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#528 Post by fredx181 »

Doglover wrote:I'm looking for the screensaver settings and set time settings.
I assume you mean the screen blanking after 10 minutes. (there are no screensaver settings, btw)
I can be disabled by:

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xset s off && xset -dpms
To have it disabled automatically at login you can add that to ~/.xsession somewhere before the last line

Setting the time I only know how to do from command line, for example:

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date -s 12:50:05
Fred

Doglover

#529 Post by Doglover »

Screen blanking is now disabled. The correct time showed this morning, no code needed. Hmmm.

Thanks Fred.

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#530 Post by dancytron »

dancytron wrote:
fredx181 wrote:Hi Dan,

I tested your minimal google-chrome setup without synaptic and for me it's the same, no network connection.
/snip/
And thanks again for finding, you seem to have talent to detect hidden bugs !

New mklive-stretch:
mklive-stretch script
Thanks, I'll give it a try later today. I thought I tried the ens2 name, but maybe I didn't do it right. Thanks to you and rcrsn51 for troubleshooting this.
Just ran another one. All fixed.
fredx181 wrote: Another thing, about chrome to run as user puppy, this works for me also

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#!/bin/sh

xhost +local:puppy

su puppy -c "/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --user-data-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/user --disk-cache-dir=/home/puppy/chrome/cache --disk-cache-size=10000000 --media-cache-size=10000000"
That way there's no need to have gksu installed (however it doesn't make much difference in space used, chrome package is huge anyway !)

Fred
This works as well.

edit: deleted something that I haven't really figured out yet.

Thanks,

Dan

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wifi

#531 Post by zagreb999 »

i created openbox.
perfectly all functions.
only wifi can not work.
tested all kinds of wifi managers:
frisbee, sns, wicd, ceni, wifi-connect...

regards.

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Re: wifi

#532 Post by fredx181 »

zagreb999 wrote:i created openbox.
perfectly all functions.
only wifi can not work.
tested all kinds of wifi managers:
frisbee, sns, wicd, ceni, wifi-connect...

regards.
You see ? As I said earlier, it's not depending only on the wifi-manager.
You probably need to install the correct firmware package to make wifi work.
I always need to install package firmware-iwlwifi, then it works with frisbee, peasywifi, etc...

Fred

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#533 Post by rcrsn51 »

@zagreb999: The list of firmware is here.

But you still have not identified the WiFi device.

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#534 Post by AndresC2 »

Hi Fred!
is it possible to create
squashfs with xorg and desktop,
without kernel?


But dont break the system?

when install linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae you have initrd and vmlinuz.

so you only need initrd and vmlinuz? , then can you safe remove linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae?

and keep "initrd and vmlinuz", later install base system with debootstrap,desktop etc and purge linux-image?.

tinycore version "core" have initrd and vmlinuz only so is possible?

thanks

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VLC-GTK

#535 Post by zagreb999 »

THANKS, FRED!

ALL KINDS OF ACTIONS
WORK PERFECTLY.
INSTALLED FRISBEE-WIFI 100%!!!
GREAT JOB.
-----------------------------------

ONLY VLC CAN NOT OPEN
HDD DRIVES. THERE IS NOT
GTK...

ANY IDEA?

REGARDS.

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#536 Post by catsezmoo »

Systemd is a dependency of synaptic
it's not indicated as a dependency here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/synaptic

Maybe you have "Treat recommended packages as depends" selected in preferences, and you wind up with extra, indirect, dependencies?

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#537 Post by saintless »

catsezmoo wrote:
Systemd is a dependency of synaptic
it's not indicated as a dependency here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/synaptic
It is a dependency because synaptic depends on policykit-1 which depends on libpam-systemd which depends on systemd.

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Works great!

#538 Post by Payoon »

Thank You Fred
in a few minutes a fully working distro was created, using debiandog jessie 64 with additonal debootstrap packge installed as the starting base.
That script is a real masterpiece.

Payoon

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#539 Post by fredx181 »

AndresC2 wrote:Hi Fred!
is it possible to create
squashfs with xorg and desktop,
without kernel?


But dont break the system?

when install linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae you have initrd and vmlinuz.

so you only need initrd and vmlinuz? , then can you safe remove linux-image-4.9.0-3-686-pae?

and keep "initrd and vmlinuz", later install base system with debootstrap,desktop etc and purge linux-image?.

tinycore version "core" have initrd and vmlinuz only so is possible?

thanks
No, not possible booting with initrd and vmlinuz only (without kernel in filesystem /lib/modules)

I answered the question about building without kernel (in fact uninstalling at later point) because I thought the reason why asked was to be able to use another kernel instead, like peebee suggested here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 725#964725

Fred

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#540 Post by dancytron »

What is the smallest/simplest samba client that you guys would recommend for DD Stretch?

edit: Just installed YASSM. Seems to do the job.

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