Studio 13.37 3.1 is out!

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#21 Post by tallboy »

Ooh, that was spot on! Sounds just like me. I'll better fire up my trusty 20-odd year old Mac SE30 again, and find some new forums.

tallboy

Edit: I see that member 'ciento' has deleted the not-so-extremely-polite post which this post was a reply to. It makes the sentences above just hang in the air, seemingly without relevance. Oh, well, they probably are...
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#22 Post by rockedge »

I made such a system based on UPUP 3.9.9.2 then updated to tahr 6.0.6. I added the synths and sequencers recording editing stripped out very little and remastered. Awesome stuff and eventually a compiled for audio kernel replacing the stock ones. I think I had offered the ISO for free as I just spent the time doing it using software written by others and I just put it together. No big deal. Now I do the same thing using Puppy's and DDogs for CCTV systems based on ZoneMinder. I let anyone have it. It is fun to see when anyone actually uses it and finds it useful.

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#23 Post by l0wt3ch »

rockedge wrote:Computer English is a language of it's own. Stop crying...Get used to it.
What you mean :?:

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#24 Post by ethplorer »

i wonder if someone from elsewhere really thought of buying.

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#25 Post by bigpup »

http://studio1337.pro/disclaimer/
As Studio 13.37 is based primarily on GPL projects, the usual caveat applies:
Where can I get the source code for Studio 13.37?

What GNU GPL license is this released under?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#26 Post by ciento »

@ moderator: this isn't linuxmusicians.com where
posts vanish whenever a sacred cow is poked.
Restore my post, and/or at least have the cajones to PM me
if you feel I've poked a favored troll too hard...

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#27 Post by Flash »

No need for a PM. Consider this the only warning you'll get. Show some self control or you're banned from this forum too.

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#28 Post by ciento »

One of my favorite uses for Studio 1337 is to record
some arpeggios or sequences at high speed on the high octaves
of the midi keyboard, with multiple instances of rakarrack providing
multiple 'multi-effects', and importing the results
into audacity sound editor. By playing it back at several
slower speeds, using audacity's alternate speed playback control,
you'll hear nicely expanded and nuanced versions of the effects,
in addition to the speed-modified timbres,
and re-record it using the Timemachine audio recorder.

You can then import the slow version into audacity,
create a second track, and paste it there, but between the 'beats' heard in the
first track, or syncopated using multiple pastes, to taste.
You can cut or copy/paste any empty audio, to aid alignment of the tracks.
Lesson each tracks volume to taste, using the audacity Amplify effect,
so they enhance, rather then dominate, the original.
If you paste several tracks, you'll want to lower
the amplitude of all of them accordingly, to achieve proper 'gain staging',
without overloading (clipping) the audacity output.

You can also apply other effects from within audacity itself,
to whole tracks, or selected audio, so your imagination can get a real workout,
using the undo/redo feature. Using the zoom in/out features, you can paste
or cut out errors with great accuracy. If there is unwanted audio
on just one side of a stereo track, audacity lets you split the track,
so you can select the bad part, and amplify it to zero volume,
without effecting the related track timings and placements.

When happy with the results, you can use the Timemachine audio recorder
to record a 24bit .w64 file, import it back into audacity for
final level/EQ adjustments, or even more editing/creating.
When all of your work/play is within audacity, you can then (render) export it
as .wav, .flac, .mp3 .ogg etc

A good vst instrument that will work great for arpeggio sounds
in Studio 1337 via Reaper daw, is the Tone2 Firebird synth.
It is now free, sounds great, and has an interface
that won't induce a comatose state while learning
some synthesizer basics.

https://www.tone2.com/firebird2.html

Rakarrack effects presets can be loud, so I first lower the input level slider,
and then adjust both input and output sliders during playback. The individual
Rakarrack modules often have several presets of their own, in addition
to the gui controls.

For using jackd connections between audacity, rakarrack, and Reaper,
here is an excellent tutorial:

http://libremusicproduction.com/article ... arted-jack

There are also plenty of youtube videos regarding the qjackctl
jackd connections gui, and they are often part of videos about hydrogen drum machine,
zynaddsubfx synth, guitarix amp-sim, ardour or qtractor daws, and other linux audio apps.

jackd lets the whole linux OS become your own Digital Audio Workstation,
and Studio 1337 lets you get started without a huge budget,
and provides a collected software base, the identifying of which,
would normally be quite a learning curve in itself.
Cheers
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#29 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Does Studio 1337 have something similar to Fruitloops/FLStudios? I like using it's piano roll. And it was cool how I could change the reverb/echo on instruments and my own imported sounds. Also, does it have something similar to Anvil Studios or Cakewalk? I like using it's piano roll too for making midis. Also, does Studio 1337 have something similar to the Matrix and Redrum in Reason? I thought those were pretty fun to make random synth and drum patterns. I guess I could just install Wine and try all those Windows programs myself to see if they work. I have Studio 2.4 now but haven't really explored it's programs much yet, might explore it more later and post in that thread.

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#30 Post by ciento »

It's important to differentiate between

1. an operating system
2. a purpose-dedicated operating system
3. a digital-audio-workstion or stand-alone application installed in
an operating system
4. plugins hosted by digital-audio-workstations or standalone apps

Studio 1337 takes an operating system, dedicates it
by modifications intended for high performance audio/video functions,
populates it with a range of useful and popular software,
and makes it easier to extend that collection of software,
with others which may not not be included due to licensing
or distribution restrictions.

Since Studio V2.4 was first released, great improvements to linux audio in general have arrived in the form of a linux ports of Reaper, and
Harrison Mixbus, deep improvements in wine-staging,
the uptake of windows vst wrappers Airwave and LinVst,
and the use of over-rides in wine-staging (the use of actual
windows .dll files, replacing the wine versions, and listed in winecfg
library panel as over-rides)

Your specific questions will apply to one of the four groupings above,
the capabilities of the installed linux software in 1337 V3.0,
and how the wine version in 1337 V 3.0 , or updated versions
one might install, can deal with such software.
To that end, this forum/topic might be useful

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=193761

for questions relating running windows audio software in wine.

Windows Reaper in wine, and the linux port of Reaper using
vst wrappers are excellent solutions for pro quality
audio in linux, with Mixbus and Bitwig linux ports also available
for testing. I don't have 1337 V3.0 set up yet, so my comments
are still quite generic, but I think you'll be quite pleased
with the advances since V2.4
Cheers

Pelo

any improvement is welcome. Free of charge, as an evidence.

#31 Post by Pelo »

excellent solutions for pro quality
audio in linux,
Sure audio in Windows is better than in Linux.. any improvement is welcome. Free of charge, as an evidence.
Improvements and solutions can be used for any puppies, i suppose.
Studio 13.37 is for musicians, for playing music with a computer. Is it ? I am just a listener (auditeur, in FR).

Post-scriptum :
In everyday life, if i decide to listen music, when doing some homework, i use my Windows 7 (with dolby system)
Most of time, i listen music when using my puppies , with apps included in multimedia section or pets loaded

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#32 Post by Smithy »

l0wt3ch, I tried 2.4 and it is having massive kernel panics and can't load modules.
Says a load of stuff about update db and usb.
Is it 1.2gb? I might have had a bad download, but I don't think so.
Tried from DVD, knocked it to usb. Still a lot of problems on boot.
If I yank all usb stuff out it will get to the desktop.
I think I have disabled UEFI csm awareness in bios. Does it need that turned on or something?
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#33 Post by Limbomusic »

Hello l0wt3ch :-)
Do you know if Reason from Propellerheads will work under wine in Studio1337?
And
Is the Steinberg CI2 supported ?

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#34 Post by l0wt3ch »

2.4 needs to be dd'ed to a usb stick. If it doesn't work for you, try the different boot options. It comes with 3 kernels. If it still doesn't work, it's possible it's not compatible - too new for your hardware or whatnot.

3.0 uses the uefi setup from xenialpup, so all you have to do is format a usb stick to fat32 and enable the boot flag, and you can just transfer all the files on the iso to the stick.

As for Reason etc, I didn't test them yet. And I can't, because I'm out of the country.

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#35 Post by Smithy »

Thanks for getting back on it l0wt3ch, will give those options a try!

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#36 Post by aloo-shu »

Happy that I was patient and tried the old v2.4 instead, I instantly ran into a bug that would have made me feel sorry had I spent any of my scarce bucks - the so called 'real time session' (basically qjackctl) only works as long as no save file is byloaded, i.e. fresh installs, or no save file sessions. On sessions with a save file loaded, jack crashes with an error regarding not being able to lock appx. 85MB worth of memory, which shouldn't be a problem at 4GB RAM, conky showing most of it unused, and a save file kept at only 64MB for the sake of testing the bug. Setting jack to forgo locking memory didn't change anything, but in any case, jack should be able to liberally reserve buffer space, so any insights on which config needs tuning here, very welcome.
I will most probably stay on the "free like in free beer"-side until further notice, I don't go to bars or have pizzas out neither, you know, if I can change strings once a year, it has been a
good year, so you will understand that I regard attempts to market FLOSS for $$ with very mixed feelings. But that said, I'm pretty impressed with studio1337, definitely more than just a haphazard collection of software, one can see that some work has gone into it, very slick and configurable desktop environment with various pieces of software playing together nicely, yet still recognizably a puppy. A pity I cannot test whether the suite of audio software interoperates just as flawlessly, and if there really is an edge latency-wise. V2.4 is surprisingly up to date, too, ubuntu(-studio) xenial, by and large, won't give you newer pkgs, unless, of course, you make use of the great work that falktx has never charged a penny for, and add the kxstudio repos (or use kxstudio straight away).

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#37 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Thanks aloo-shu for reminding me about Studio v2.4, and the nice review. Got the iso and will play with it again when I get home :)

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#38 Post by l0wt3ch »

Just a minor update, with kernel 4.13.13-rt5 (32 and 64 bit), Ardour 5.12, Guitarix 0.36.1, etc, various bug-fixes.

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#39 Post by l0wt3ch »

Fixed a bug where mouse/keyboard didn't work for some people after boot.

Thanks ciento!

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#40 Post by l0wt3ch »

I still have the pc I originally developed Puppy Studio on, what's it been, ten years now? It was always a crappy machine, barely ran XP. These days I only use it to monitor my security cameras.

I put in the Studio 13.37 3.1 DVD, and was amazed when it booted right up. And it's fast - seems like my newer laptop. I was able to easily connect to my POD HD500X and record. Pretty impressive. I hadn't tried 13.37 on that computer in years.

Just goes to show how small, fast, and powerful Puppy Linux really is.

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