Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

[chiron²]

I am in the process of migrating from Fatdog to Xenialpup, because of the much wider selection in programs from the repos. Only problem I came across is, I cannot get my Hanvon graphics tablet to work. I compiled it's own special Driver, the tablet is recognized by lsusb, the mouse pointer moves, the extra buttons work surprisingly. Problem now is, I can only move the cursor in one portion of the screen. And pressure sensitivity is not there. When I use xinput --list in terminal, it doesn't show the tablet, so I can't configure it via xinput. xinput also does not show my thinkpad's trackpoint nor the thinkpad extra buttons as input devices, merely:

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root# xinput --list
⎡ Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer        id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎜   ↳ Mouse0                                  	id=6	[slave  pointer  (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard                   	id=3	[master keyboard (2)]
    ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard     id=5	[slave  keyboard (3)]
    ↳ Keyboard0                               	id=7	[slave  keyboard (3)]

EDIT
HardInfo gives me the following list of input devices

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-Input Devices-
 Lid Switch
 Sleep Button
 Power Button
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint
 HiFimeDIY Audio SA9023 USB Audio
 ThinkPad Extra Buttons
 Video Bus
 HDA Digital PCBeep
 HDA Intel Mic
 HDA Intel Dock Mic
 HDA Intel Dock Headphone
 HDA Intel Headphone
 PC Speaker
 Hanvon tablet

Where's the point xinput is missing out?

So I got the Trackpoint working the way I want with some settings in xorg.conf. But the xorg.conf way doesn't help me with the graphic tablet. Settings I write in the xorg.conf are simply ignored. GIMP also does not show the tablet as input device. Tablet works as expected in Fatdog and Ubuntu.
Anybody any ideas how to procede?

Additionally, I found that Xenialpup does not preserve mountpoints created in /mnt over a reboot. If I manually create them in the savefolder, the boot process stops at 'switching root to layered filesystem'. Likewise when I created the mountpoints in the Xenialpup SFS itself. Found a workaround in creating the mountpoints via rc.local every boot. Probably a feature to prevent the /mnt dir from cluttering?

Any ideas appreciated.

Norman

EDIT it's Xenialpup 7.0.8.5 64bit, Thinpad R500, Hanvon Artmaster0806

[James C]

Still rolling along pretty well problem free....

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root# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc2236 Kernel: 4.9.15 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 dm: N/A Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.5
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42140
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz 2: 2500 MHz
           3: 2000 MHz 4: 1400 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 80x26 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.15
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (5.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 20 min Memory: 387.5/15950.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35 

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root# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16333572    1882404   14451168     377476      85608    1405760
-/+ buffers/cache:     391036   15942536
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
root# 

[rufwoof]

Still rolling along pretty well problem free....

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root# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc5334 Kernel: 4.9.15 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 dm: N/A Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.5
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Acer product: Aspire M1200/3200/5200
           Mobo: Acer model: RS780HVF
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: R01-B2 date: 08/15/2008
           Chassis: type: 3 v: 1.0 serial: 00000000
CPU:       Quad core AMD Phenom 9150e (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 14394
           clock speeds: min/max: 900/1800 MHz 1: 900 MHz 2: 1800 MHz
           3: 900 MHz 4: 900 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0402
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 81x26 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.15
Network:   Card: Marvell 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: e800 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 11ab:436b
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:11:22:33:44:55
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (33.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200AAJS size: 320.1GB serial: N/A
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 182 Uptime: 34 min Memory: 337.2/2000.5MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.3.8 

[Billtoo]

I installed a woof-CE build of xenialpup64 to a 32gb SDHC card and have
it running on my hp desktop pc:

root# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc6705 Kernel: 4.9.47 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.4
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial: MXX0370KF3
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: Hexa core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 800/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 139x35 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1032.2GB (1.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 63 F (17 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: September 3, 1:50 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 208 Uptime: 41 min Memory: 593.2/7984.3MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
root#

I installed applications with PPM, smplayer,smtube,vlc,and more.
Kodi won't run,mpv won't run, but most others do.
It's working well overall.

[Pelo]

the problem with these new Puppies is where you can use it, and for who.
It's an evidence that old geeks linked to the wall socket can run VLC. But a computer is nowadays much more than a mediaplayer for Grand-papa in the cellar.
Puppy Linux 4.1.2 with Gxine was doing as well. What are all the MBs for ?
I am sorry, but the puppies 64 bits are slower than 32 bits, some windows take 30 seconds to appear.
And Xenialpup freezes soon or later. There is something wrong.. Puppy is australian, but les autruches sont americaines.(the ostriches are American)
XenialDog does it well.. It's not a Puppy ? it could be a Puppy.. Sure it will run on much more computers.. Not only devs ones.
Fatdog64 tried again, sure it's more fluent than Puppies.
Solution is easy, use Puppy Precise, or Slacko 6.3.2 with the kernels 3.14.56 or older. Lot o pets and Applications , and feed back of numerous users on the forum, not only very fast tests

About VLC no more audio if you played some music in the browser. Shut your browser, auddio will work again

[Billtoo]

I downloaded Phil's xenialpup64-7.0.8.5-uefi.iso and burned it to a DVD
for use on my Imac desktop pc:

root# inxi -b
System: Host: puppypc3405 Kernel: 4.9.15 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.5
Machine: Device: desktop System: Apple product: iMac8 1 v: 1.0 serial: W8811GXLZE2
Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F226BEC8 v: PVT serial: 1
UEFI: Apple v: IM81.88Z.00C1.B00.0802091538 date: 02/09/08
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8135 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/2400 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 134x28 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Broadcom BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n driver: b43-pci-bridge
Card-2: Marvell 88E8058 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (3.6% used)
Info: Processes: 178 Uptime: 30 min Memory: 636.8/3949.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
root#

Mpv,smplayer/smtube,kodi,and vlc work well.
When Palemoon Version: 27.4.2 (64-bit) launches it gives an error about dbus but
that doesn't seem to cause problems as far as I see.

It's very fast, works great on this 9 year out Imac desktop.

Thanks Phil (wherever you are)

[belham2]

Hi all,

Quick question: anyone having this happen on their Xenialpup64? I had it happen in phil's original release of this, then again when I rebuilt it from woof-CE a few months ago, and it is "still" happening in a fresh woof-CE build I just did of xenialpup64. No matter what I do, I have to reset screensaver (inside 'Desktop--pupX set properties of X') every single session in order to have a functioning screensaver. Check marking the box and it still won't save. I know it cannot be a corrupt savefile because it does it immediately on new builds after first setting up a fresh savefile. Next login, the settings for screensaver box inside pupX is unchecked---even after having checked it before and/or after any savefile creation and/or use. Here's the pic. Anyone seeing this or having it happen also? Thanks.

[bigpup]

Try not using that to set screen saver.
I never used that setup very much, but I think it does only apply to that time of Puppy running.
When you reboot, it resets back to default settings.

Use the menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>Screen Save to set it up.
See how that works for you.

[belham2]

Try not using that to set screen saver.
I never used that setup very much, but I think it does only apply to that time of Puppy running.
When you reboot, it resets back to default settings.

Use the menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>Screen Save to set it up.
See how that works for you.

Hi Bigpup,

Didn't work (see pics below). I must have a gremlin, gobblin or something going on with this. 3 new woof-CE builds, and this is still occurring. Guess I can assume yours (and everyone else's) is working correctly. I'll try to track this down...sure would help if Phil could point me in the right direction and/or where I might look to correct this, whenever or if he shows up again

[Billtoo]

Hi all,

Quick question: anyone having this happen on their Xenialpup64? I had it happen in phil's original release of this, then again when I rebuilt it from woof-CE a few months ago, and it is "still" happening in a fresh woof-CE build I just did of xenialpup64. No matter what I do, I have to reset screensaver (inside 'Desktop--pupX set properties of X') every single session in order to have a functioning screensaver. Check marking the box and it still won't save. I know it cannot be a corrupt savefile because it does it immediately on new builds after first setting up a fresh savefile. Next login, the settings for screensaver box inside pupX is unchecked---even after having checked it before and/or after any savefile creation and/or use. Here's the pic. Anyone seeing this or having it happen also? Thanks.

Hi belham2,
I'm using 2 xenialpup64 installs, I have 7.0.8.5 installed to my Imac,
the sreensaver doesn't work on that one.
I also have a 7.0.8.4 install and if I use the method suggested by
bigpup it does work.
It survives a reboot,restart graphical server also.

Turning off the screensave is one of the first changes that I do with a
new pup install so although it wasn't on by default on the 7.0.8.5
install (I think the bottom two checks were on) off is what I wanted.

Bill

[mikeslr]

Hi belham2,

With the builtin screensaver not working in your Xenialpup64 7.0.8.5 for unknown reasons, maybe you could turn your attention to xscreensaver. I was able to build it as an SFS. It loaded, ran, and I was able to select and preview several of the many screensavers http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 306#964306. But, as I said here, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 313#964313 "I haven't figured out how to employ the app: that is set it up so that after a certain period of idleness it will turn on. I suspect some searching/reading is in order."

I rarely use screensavers. And the one builtin on my Xenialpup64 does function. So I haven't done that searching/reading.


mikesLr

[rufwoof]

7.0.8.5 frugal version ... for my 1400x900 scaled down to 1280x800 (I prefer larger text) resolution ... if you install xpaint then I found launching it with

xpaint -menufont "-misc-dejavu sans-bold-r-normal--22-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-16"

works well for me (nice size menu font)

If you install xterm then including

XTerm*SimpleMenu*font: -misc-dejavu sans-bold-r-normal--18-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-16

in ~/.Xresources has a nice Ctrl-leftmouseclick in xterm menu font size

[ETP]

In the absence of 666philb I have had a stab at creating a XenialPup64 using forum member wiak's makepup script version 0.0.9

Full sized screen-shot here: (Press F11 to toggle into full screen then click on link)

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view ... W9BbXJ5UkU

XenialPup64-7.0.8.4 k 4.9.15 (Huge_kernel) woof-CE "testing branch" built September 2017 can be
found here together with comprehensive notes and more screenshots:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

The combination of recent Woof-CE & the Ubuntu updates seems to have resolved most, if not all, of the issues that 666philb encountered. Perhaps I just got lucky!
This Pup is just a general purpose Pup rather than my usual fare which tend to be more task orientated.

[artsown]

@ETP

Interesting piece of work! Couldn't help trying out your xenialpup64 since
xenialpup64 has become my pup of choice. Followed your directions without
a hitch. Since I have no interest in using the usb stick, I put your frugal
install on my hard drive.

Two complaints so far. Pcutemp doesn't work correctly on many machines
and it should have been left out. Also, I miss SNS for setting up my
wireless.

I like the idea of including a top notch browser (google chrome in this case)
that can be updated to the latest version. I also use Thunderbird, so I
welcome it's inclusion.

I'm curious about your current plans for this. Will you create a ISO so we
can easily do frugals to hard drive?

Art

[ETP]

Hi Art,

Thanks for taking the time to test my build.

I agree that Pmcputemp has been the source of problems in both WoofQ & Woof-CE builds.
Whilst I disabled it in this Pup I should have really removed it completely.
OOTB the Openbox desktop is used and the CPU temp/CPU Load displays showing use plugins
in Fbpanel which are not problematic. Best not to enable Pmcputemp if you switch to jwm.

SNS/Frisbee & Network Wizard (Dougal) are accessed via the Network Tab in PupControl then the top
button "Wired or wireless LAN. If you intend to use Frisbee you will first have to enable the
service in Bootmanager - System services.

I do not propose to issue an ISO but if you have a look at syslinux.cfg in the boot/syslinux
folder on the first partition of the USB stick it explains how to copy the frugal install to a disc and
the modified code to then boot the hard disc/SSD from the USB stick itself. You can of course copy initrd.gz and vmlinuz
to a place where your own existing bootloader can find them and then modify your existing configuration.

[Billtoo]

Palemoon browser updated today to 27.5.0 64bit

[artsown]

My blue desktop theme. Both xenial and tahr pups have this really cool
feature of running scripts in the terminal with a single click. At the upper
right is my temps icon which is right clicked and mouse button held down
while selecting Run in Terminal. Then releasing the button causes hard drive
and cores temperatures to be displayed.

In the center is a icon for system information. Near lower left is my
freecell game icon suggesting both the hearts suit and my love of the
game:)

Art

[rek769]

Greetings,
I'm fairly positive this is not a Xenialpup64 problem...but wanted input from this group just in case...
My old, trusty Toshiba Satellite bid farewell yesterday and I'm now up and running on a slightly newer HP Pavilion G6.

First problem is that this machine will not boot XP64 from a CD. The system does not have UEFI boot capabilities so maybe this is the issue. Booting frugal from a flash drive is working fine...curious if anyone has thoughts on how to get the system to boot from a CD in my case.

2nd issue is more problematic. Although my BIOS reports a full boat of RAM (8Gb) XP64 is only seeing 4Gb. (Htop says 3.42, Conky reports 3.35). It's almost as if I'm on a 32 bit processor without PAE but this is a 64 bit machine...albeit an early version without UEFI support. I'd really like to get the other 4Gb of RAM recognized...any thoughts?

As always, a big thanks ahead of time...

I'm running Xenialpup64 7.0.8.5
CD was burned as iso at a write speed of 4.0. CD worked fine on prior computer. Absolutely nothing happens when trying to boot from the CD: System will post and then I get a blinking cursor in the corner and have to hard power off. Mint CD and others I have will boot fine. Maybe this CD has developed an issue coincidentally.

RAM issue was apparently a bad module. Even though BIOS saw it, none of my installed Linux OSes (Salix, Devuan, Mint 17.3) could recognize it. I put in a different (smaller) stick and it is being recognized).

FWIW:
I install Linux Mint (without systemd) on recent Windows refugee computers to try and make the world a better place....I've found that I'm not a fan of HP computers when it comes to getting Linux working on them...not only do they generally have AMD and Radeon issues, I often have other weird things to deal with...this one will not keep Puppy sound settings between sessions (savefile). This HP is only a stop gap until I can get a decent machine that likes me.

[sheldonisaac]

First problem is that this machine will not boot XP64 from a CD. The system does not have UEFI boot capabilities so maybe this is the issue.

I don't think the UEFI is the problem: see my hard drive files at the bottom of this post.
My computer is an ordinary Dell E6410, no UEFI.
Would you try making a hard drive directory, and copy those files into it? That is, open the iso (I have xenialpup64-7.0.8.5-uefi.iso ) eg by clicking in roxfiler, and copy the essental files. Then do grub4dosconfig.

Sorry, I hope someone else can help with the CD.

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-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2353530 Apr  7 15:58 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 246489088 Apr  7 16:04 puppy_xenialpup64_7.0.8.5.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   5564704 Mar 17  2017 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  70082560 Mar 20  2017 zdrv_xenialpup64_7.0.8.5.sfs

[bigpup]

First problem is that this machine will not boot XP64 from a CD.

Exactly what version of Xenialpup64?
Was the Xenialpup64 iso burned as a iso image?
When you look on the CD it has a bunch of files, not the iso.
Burned at a speed no higher than 8?
Sure the CD burner is working OK?
Sure the CD drive is working OK?

When it tries to boot, you see what?
Details????