App windows won't fill screen in tahr 605 (Realy Solved)

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#41 Post by tallboy »

Oh no, you don't, WE don't give you up yet! :evil:
You have to give us the pleasure of torturing you a little longer! :lol:

2 simple questions:
1) Have you tried to use a different windowmanager?
2) Did you ever use wmctrl? Run man wmctrl.

You can take a look here for inspiration:
How to make jwm or wmctrl resize browser window?

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#42 Post by number77 »

tallboy wrote:Oh no, you don't, WE don't give you up yet! :evil:
You have to give us the pleasure of torturing you a little longer! :lol:

2 simple questions:
1) Have you tried to use a different windowmanager?
2) Did you ever use wmctrl? Run man wmctrl.

You can take a look here for inspiration:
How to make jwm or wmctrl resize browser window?

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Rather unfortunately I am a beginner with almost no knowledge of terminal. so I think this is way beyond me but thanks for trying.

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#43 Post by bigpup »

It is a long shot, but I have seen posts that the GTK theme being used, has caused issues.

Could try changing to different GTK themes.
The only way to fill the screen is: go to rhs top square and reduce the window, then bottom rhs and drag the arrow and it will fill the screen. Any video content played is the small size again.
Vlc will fill the screen if the arrow in the bottom rh corner is dragged and videos play full screen.
After you resize by using the bottom rhs and drag the arrow and it will fill the screen.

Press the full screen button (right upper corner of window) and see if it stays full screen.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#44 Post by tallboy »

Rather unfortunately I am a beginner with almost no knowledge of terminal. so I think this is way beyond me but thanks for trying.
At great personal risk of being excluded from the forum, I see that I have no other choice than to reveal our big Puppy secret:
We're all beginners at something here! :lol:

I use an older Puppy, but they are usually built the same way:
In the main Menu, under Desktop, there is an entry named WM Switcher Switch between window managers
Open it and switch to another WM, and see if that solves your problem.
Usually at the top of the same Menu -> Desktop, you'll find the theme chooser mentioned by bigpup.

Please report back, a solution to your problem may be of great help to others as well.

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#45 Post by number77 »

bigpup wrote:It is a long shot, but I have seen posts that the GTK theme being used, has caused issues.

Could try changing to different GTK themes.
The only way to fill the screen is: go to rhs top square and reduce the window, then bottom rhs and drag the arrow and it will fill the screen. Any video content played is the small size again.
Vlc will fill the screen if the arrow in the bottom rh corner is dragged and videos play full screen.
After you resize by using the bottom rhs and drag the arrow and it will fill the screen.

Press the full screen button (right upper corner of window) and see if it stays full screen.
No it goes back to reduced size.

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#46 Post by belham2 »

Number 77,

It's sad to say, but maybe it is time to "HIT" the nuke button on this install and start afresh. No more wondering if.....
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#47 Post by tallboy »

My last suggestion: Burn another Puppy to CD, and don't install anything, run in live from RAM. That way you can test all the modifications you want to, if it doesn't work, just restart from the CD, until you have found one that works.

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#48 Post by number77 »

tallboy wrote:My last suggestion: Burn another Puppy to CD, and don't install anything, run in live from RAM. That way you can test all the modifications you want to, if it doesn't work, just restart from the CD, until you have found one that works.

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I have tried quite a number of puppies from cd so far but am trying 431 out of desperation now.

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#49 Post by number77 »

belham2 wrote:I know this is radical, but this point, I am all for blowing away all xorg-related stuff in your Tahr, 77, and then re-installing it alll over again via booting a Tahr live-distro
I have tried that belham2, live cd in ram gave no difference. Virtually all progs. come out not full screen. The desktop is the only full screen I get.
What does ubuntu use as it works normally but its such a bloated os I am very reluctant to be stuck with it. I like puppy.
Any ideas anyone.

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#50 Post by Flash »

What happens if you boot the same CD in a different computer? If everything works fine in a different computer, maybe a different driver would solve the problem. It's worth a try, if you can find a different driver and figure out how to use it.

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#51 Post by number77 »

Flash wrote:What happens if you boot the same CD in a different computer? If everything works fine in a different computer, maybe a different driver would solve the problem. It's worth a try, if you can find a different driver and figure out how to use it.
I only have one hdmi monitor and one pc with hdmi output.
Tahr605 32 and 64bit give a beautiful full screen on the monitor. If I open any program, palemoon, vlc, gparted and maximise them they go about half screen, the only way to fill the screen is: minimise then drag the sides out to fill the screen. That doesnt stay as next time max size is about half.
Pale moon has the added problem anything opened in it is small size max.
Thats the same with all puppies I have tried, about 10 now.
Any ideas as I want to stay with puppy.

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#52 Post by bigpup »

In Tahrpup 6.0.5

menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>JWM Theme

What theme is being used?

menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>GTK Theme

What theme is being used?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#53 Post by number77 »

bigpup wrote:In Tahrpup 6.0.5

menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>JWM Theme

What theme is being used?

menu>Desktop>JWMDesk Manager>GTK Theme

What theme is being used?
JWM stark blueish
GTK stark blueish
I think, they are the ones sort of illuminated. I have never changed them from default.

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#54 Post by bigpup »

Tahr605 32 and 64bit If I open any program, and maximise them they go about half screen, the only way to fill the screen is: minimise then drag the sides out to fill the screen. That doesnt stay as next time max size is about half.
Pale moon has the added problem anything opened in it is small size max.
What is the graphics hardware?
What graphics driver is being used?


This is just to see what happens.

Could you choose a different resolution.
Maybe 1024X768.
See if that has any affect???

The window size should be controlled by JWM and you indicate that it is working with drag the sides.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#55 Post by rcrsn51 »

@77: When you run xrandr, what device (or devices) is flagged as active - has a * beside it?

I get EXACTLY the same behaviour as you with my Atom machines who think that they are connected to a laptop screen instead of a VGA monitor. I need to run a script that forces them to use VGA.

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#56 Post by fabrice_035 »

You can use wmctrl to force resize or change position

Example, in defaultmediaplayer i use

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exec vlc "$@" &
sleep .5
wmctrl -r "vlc" -e 1,240,0,680,768
to force vlc start always at same position.

You can edit defaultbrowser in usr/bin/ and try that.

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#57 Post by number77 »

bigpup wrote:
Tahr605 32 and 64bit If I open any program, and maximise them they go about half screen, the only way to fill the screen is: minimise then drag the sides out to fill the screen. That doesnt stay as next time max size is about half.
Pale moon has the added problem anything opened in it is small size max.
What is the graphics hardware?
What graphics driver is being used?


This is just to see what happens.

Could you choose a different resolution.
Maybe 1024X768.
See if that has any affect???

The window size should be controlled by JWM and you indicate that it is working with drag the sides.
The graphics hardware is hdmi 32" panasonic tv
Cant say what the driver or video card is as the pc is in use by others on ubuntu but will get back.
I tried lower resolution but only got small bit of desktop at full size.

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#58 Post by tallboy »

Could you please activate the TV monitor's menu, and see if there is a 'Video input control', 'Signals input control' or similar function? If the monitor is set to expect a TV-signal, you may be able to toggle the input.

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#59 Post by number77 »

tallboy wrote:Could you please activate the TV monitor's menu, and see if there is a 'Video input control', 'Signals input control' or similar function? If the monitor is set to expect a TV-signal, you may be able to toggle the input.

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Nothing like that. Has c.a.t.s set to on and p-nr set to auto. Dont understand either but no mention of vid input control.
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#60 Post by number77 »

bigpup wrote:
Tahr605 32 and 64bit If I open any program, and maximise them they go about half screen, the only way to fill the screen is: minimise then drag the sides out to fill the screen. That doesnt stay as next time max size is about half.
Pale moon has the added problem anything opened in it is small size max.
What is the graphics hardware?
What graphics driver is being used?


This is just to see what happens.

Could you choose a different resolution.
Maybe 1024X768.
See if that has any affect???

The window size should be controlled by JWM and you indicate that it is working with drag the sides.
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Module Name: video
Memory Used: 8.61 KB
Path: /lib/modules/3.14.56/kernel/drivers/acpi/video.ko
License: GPL
Description: ACPI Video Driver
Author: Bruno Ducrot
Alias: acpi*:LNXVIDEO:*
Dependencies:
Built-in: Yes
Version Magic: 3.14.56 SMP preempt mod_unload 686
Parameter: brightness_switch_enabled:bool
Parameter: allow_duplicates:bool
Parameter: use_native_backlight:int
Used by: 1 i915

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Module Name: wmi
Memory Used: 5.02 KB
Path: /lib/modules/3.14.56/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/wmi.ko
License: GPL
Description: ACPI-WMI Mapping Driver
Author: Carlos Corbacho
Alias: acpi*:pnp0c14:*
Alias: acpi*:PNP0C14:*
Dependencies:
Built-in: Yes
Version Magic: 3.14.56 SMP preempt mod_unload 686
Parameter: debug_event:Log WMI Events [0/1] (bool)
Parameter: debug_dump_wdg:Dump available WMI interfaces [0/1] (bool)
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