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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 13:04 Post subject:
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Hello all.
As the title says: "Has anyone ever tried to build a FedoraPup"
Through the woof-CE or otherwise.
I ask because, at times, to install some additional software on Puppy (e.g.
ntpdate), the only available libs are on a Fedora or similar depot, even if
your Pup is DPupStretch.
In theory, if you're on Debian Pup, the Debian depots should have the
compatible lib, but they don't.
Fedora has been around for ages, they have a good validation process, so
the material in their depots is stable, yes?
Would it be complicated to build a FedoraPup?
Thanks in advance for sharing any pointers or experience.
BFN.
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saintless

Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 13:42 Post subject:
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I have little experience using Fedora-Live-23:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=897229&sid=1d358ca8620cd9d1f40cfaef6dcbcef0#897229
If you like to explore Fedora-live using aufs kernel from Puppy-Rus-A here is temporary download link for archive with my test for frugal install after extracting the fedora folder at top of partition.
https://github.com/MintPup/DebianDog-Squeeze/releases/download/v.2.1/fedora-pup-base.tar.gz
md5sum: c5060b823365ee84dfebf21349f868ad fedora-pup-base.tar.gz - 184Mb
Included remastering script, Readme.txt with some information, boot codes and command line examples how to update and install packages. The main module has Xorg but not window manager installed. You have to start from command line by installing Jwm or other.
You should be able to download/install in save file/folder any fedora package you like and extract binaries or libs in Puppy or Debian. But for real Puppy like system it needs a lot more work.
Toni
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 14:10 Post subject:
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Hello saintless.
Very interesting. Thank you.
I will indeed explore / study your project. (Not today, though, I was not
expecting such an early answer, today I have other things to do.)
When you say Russian... I do not know any Russian, unfortunately. This
system understands ordinary Linux/GNU commands like ls, cp, etc., yes?
(Sorry if I sound naive.)
Again thank you for your lead.
BFN.
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ally

Joined: 19 May 2012 Posts: 1983 Location: lincoln, uk
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 15:18 Post subject:
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mirrored here: http://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linux_OddsnSods/fedora-pup-base.tar.gz
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6735 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 17:52 Post subject:
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It should be possible to build a Fedora based Pup with Woof CE, if someone wants to invest the time.Besides the Debian,Ubuntu and Slackware based Pup builds there were also brief forays into Arch (Archpup)http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=692171&search_id=1819815084#692171 and Mageia (Drakepup)http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=540123&search_id=774071224#540123 in the past so Fedora should be possible.
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saintless

Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 3882 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Sat 26 Aug 2017, 23:33 Post subject:
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musher0 wrote: | When you say Russian... I do not know any Russian, unfortunately. This
system understands ordinary Linux/GNU commands like ls, cp, etc., yes? |
Only the boot process information messages are in Russian.
You can use the commands ls, cp, etc. the same way as in Puppy or other linux.
Fedora23 has dnf command line package manager which downloads all dependencies (like apt-get in Debian).
It suits my own needs to test Fedora live some times. Maybe you are looking for real woof-ce build based on Fedora and this is not what you need. Test when and if you like. I doub't you will find better suggestion for Puppy like Fedora system and this is the reason for my answer here.
Thanks ally.
Toni
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futwerk
Joined: 07 May 2011 Posts: 395
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Posted: Tue 05 Sep 2017, 17:29 Post subject:
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here is something for the background.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?x4v77bi1p58ox |
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 06:42 Post subject:
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Thanks, futwerk.
Now that we have a background for it, we'll have to build a Pup, won't we?
BFN.
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belham2
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 Posts: 1743
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 07:20 Post subject:
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musher0 wrote: | Thanks, futwerk.
Now that we have a background for it, we'll have to build a Pup, won't we?
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Hi Musher,
How's the FedoraPup coming along??? Fedora I sometimes use as a desktop to mainly to see what they're (the Fedora team and gnome) are up to. It'll be interesting to see how you spin this up and it builds. Any date and/or time frame in mind for an ISO & devx release??
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 10:20 Post subject:
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Hi belham2.
Moi? By myself? Alone? Trying for a Fedora branch of the woof-CE? You got
to be kidding! I'm not a bad bash-script writer, but this is way above my
pay grade!
On the other hand, if there are two or more of us, with exchange of tips,
tricks and ideas, now that would be a different situation which could
eventually lead to success, IMO.
First of all, where are the Fedora repos? (hehe)
BFN.
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 10:49 Post subject:
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Food for thought:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=816783&sort=lastpost&search_id=1666865593#816783
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musher0
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Posted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 11:01 Post subject:
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Hello again belham2.
To give you a practrical answer, I did try saintless' template (or matrix or
seed or whatever it's called), but I can't get a connection to the fedora repos.
And saintless said that he would not get involved further. So I'm stumped.
BFN.
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mikeslr

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 3913 Location: 500 seconds from Sol
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Posted: Mon 11 Sep 2017, 14:33 Post subject:
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I wondered what advantage a Fedora-Pup might provide. Labbe5's post, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=967376#967376 --better security-- seems to provide an answer.
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 15041 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada
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Posted: Mon 11 Sep 2017, 15:33 Post subject:
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Thanks for the valuable info, mikeslr.
A Fedora Pup would be worth trying, if only for that reason.
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belham2
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 Posts: 1743
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Posted: Mon 11 Sep 2017, 15:52 Post subject:
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musher0 wrote: | Thanks for the valuable info, mikeslr.
A Fedora Pup would be worth trying, if only for that reason. |
Musher my friend,
When it comes to the pack in front of the sled....I am the closest mutt to the driver because I don't know what I am doing, lol. You, you are out near the (if not thee) "lead" dog driving us. If Toni (or someone with similar skill) is not driving us, and you are not out front leading us mutts, we are gonna starve, fail & die a miserable death on the tundra
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