XenialDog (Ubuntu 16.04 'Xenial Xerus' LTS, 32-bit)

[Pelo]

I am running from the flashdrive right now, with the save file on my HD, along with the sfs modules that are being integrated into the OS.
Ah no need any more CDs and DVDs or no need of live CD...project
Swap ? I never use Swap because my 4 GB RAM never overflow with applications that i use. Sorry i cannot help.
Tutos in Gitub explain Porteus boot and Casper one, not really grub4dos, which is doubtless the easier. Nothing to do, just give info where is saved your session.
What i would like, as in puppy Linux, is to be able not to save the session. That keeps save file light, at least without useless recording, sometimes errors done during session.
Detail to repair : Keyboard fr well working at reb)oot, excepted in browser. Just typing setxkbmap fr in terminal solve it. (taper xetxkb,qp fr)
Bookmarks are well saved
My goal was Multiboot, that is done.

About wireless, i will feed back if kernel recognize (or not) my dongle. That is the very important point, i just bought a new battery. Well Some Puppies will do it.
What devs have to do, is to work on weak points of the OS.. people are not the devs. You are the crew, the Linux knowledge. We trust you.

[backi]

Hi Pelo !
Reading carefully peoples instruction would really help avoiding Confusion and Misunderstandings .(and a lot of work )

What i would like, as in puppy Linux, is to be able not to save the session. That keeps save file light, at least without useless recording, sometimes errors done during session.

.

Where is the problem ?
If you want to accomplish your wish above...... listen carefully :
It is easy as that .

One more Time:
I assume you know how to use grub4dos .
I am using Xenial Dog on a Usb-Stick but the same menu.lst entry does work also on a Linux(ext2-ext3-ext4 ) Partition on a HarDDrive .

Step by Step.(once again )


1.Create a Folder named XENIALDOG either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ----formatted with ext2-ext3-or ext4)or on a Linux(ext2-ext3-ext4 ) Partition on a Hard-Drive .
2.Extract the Xenial Dog Iso .
3.Copy (extracted) casper Folder into that empty Folder named XENIALDOG.----
4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow :

I will give you a definitely working Example .

This is my menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified (and it definitely works for me...)
so it looks like that:

title XENIALDOG- porteus-boot - save on EXIT changes=/XENIALDOG/changes folder
find --set-root /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz
kernel /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz from=/XENIALDOG noauto changes=EXIT:/XENIALDOG/casper/ ramsize=80%
initrd /XENIALDOG/casper/initrd1.xz

What it does when booting with this menu.lst :
Booted with this menu entry... a changes Folder will be created automatically.
Just like in Puppy Linux,you will be able to save or not to save the session.
No automatic Saves .
With save2flash symlinked from /usr/bin/save2flash to Desktop ......you can save if you like during Session . ....just the Puppy Style.
When shutting down ....you will be asked if you want to save or not .
Capito,comprendre ?
I swear to God....if you follow exactly my instructions ....you will be able to "as in puppy Linux, to be able to save or not to save the session."

Regards !

[wiak]

I swear to God....if you follow exactly my instructions ....you will be able to "as in puppy Linux, to be able to save or not to save the session."

Regards !

Hahaha, the french man driving the german man mad.

wiak

[fredx181]

1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ----formatted with ext2-ext3-or ext4)or on a Linux(ext2-ext3-ext4 ) Partition on a Hard-Drive .
2.Extract the Xenial Dog Iso .
3.Copy (extracted) casper Folder into that empty Folder named XENIAL.----
4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow :

I will give you a definitely working Example .

This is my menu.lst created with Grub4dos and modified (and it definitely works for me...)
so it looks like that:

title XENIALDOG- porteus-boot - save on EXIT changes=/XENIALDOG/changes folder
find --set-root /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz
kernel /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz from=/XENIALDOG noauto changes=EXIT:/XENIALDOG2/casper/ ramsize=80%
initrd /XENIALDOG/casper/initrd1.xz

Hi backi, let's try to avoid even more confusion, some things are not correct:
- You wrote "Create a Folder named XENIAL,"
Then the boot command lines should contain folder "XENIAL", not "XENIALDOG"
- Also the changes go to "XENIALDOG2" in your example, DOES IT EXIST ? (maybe for you, but probably not for others)

Also: let's name things correctly as what they are:
"grub4dos" is not the same as "grub4dosconfig"

Fred

(now the german guy is driving the dutch guy mad )

[backi]

Hi fred !
Thanks for support .......just changed the name of the Folder (for casper ) to XENIALDOG......also changed entry XENIALDOG2 (was my mistake ) to just XENIALDOG.
Hope menu.lst entry is now correct .....to avoid further confusion .....from which i am obviously affected by??? or from??? .....who knows

[Pelo]

first thanks backi to come and give help.. misunderstanding should not last long, i am sure we all be agree within short time.
About launching Xenialdog and saving session, now that is understood, even if that was long enough..
I have always used porteus boot untill yesterday,
with Grud4dos i have the wish of sharing my pendrive with Puppies, this one (2GB) which is an old one, formated FAT32 , but in a second time on my brand new 8G one, which i formated Linux ext 3, dedicated to XeniaLdog first.
As my sessions are saved on HDD, partition Linux, 8GB is a lot too much, for Puppy Linux users, used to work with few MBs.

What i disagree, perhaps i am wrong, is that if at end of session you are asked to create a 'pupsave' , you can answer 'yes', you can answer 'no'
No, no trouble, easy.
Yes, pupsave is created where you want, you can even save on yet existing one. Then,, you have to record this place on menu.lst, to load it at boot : changes=.....
So it loads, but when you leave the session, it is recorded at that place, without asking your opinion as when you worked in a virgin session.
That was what i would like to change, ask each end of session (as pupsaveconfig does).
My English is quite perfect, is'nt it ?
SOLVED Auestion is qsked eqch end of sessionn< excepted keyboard fr

[Pelo]

"save2flash symlinked from /usr/bin/save2flash"
Not yet tested..
saving works, to be able not to save is a minor point. I will try save 2 flash ASAP 'as soon as possible'

process backi copied in menu.lst.. then XenialDog launched as quick as an (old) Puppy Linux.. I am in dual boot with this damned italian Puppy, which has some bugs for shutdown. No, Puppy Linux too is not a ready for use OS. Passengers not speaking English never will be able to use Linux, unless somebody helping them translating all the how-to. Compiling drivers, my God, what an utopia ...

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy X Upup 17.05 (sdb1/XupupRome)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /XupupRome/initrd.gz
kernel /XupupRome/vmlinuz psubdir=XupupRome pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
initrd /XupupRome/initrd.gz

title XENIALDOG- porteus-boot - save on EXIT changes=/mnt/sda3/DebianDog/usbrouge.dat
find --set-root /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz
kernel /XENIALDOG/casper/vmlinuz from=/XENIALDOG noauto changes=EXIT:/mnt/sda3/DebianDog/usbrouge.dat
initrd /XENIALDOG/casper/initrd1.xz

Test Bench : approved

[backi]

I think......
.....they`re coming to take me away ......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxVkAhto0Ag

[Pelo]

beware the crash ! once back home after summer holidays, passengers can install Nomacs and edit their pictures. details , jump to Nomacs topic
Installed with Synaptic.
My Screenshots will be deleted. They are there only to show what people can do with XenialDOG. The Forum looks like a list of non-working process. A quick presentation of applications serviceable once XenialDog installed will please some newbies..
What would think a passenger if a list of non working equipment was the only reading on board ???
The main reason why i select XenialDog is that some applications are available which does not exist elsewhere (not compiled yet). And for feed back. Our poor devs are quite in a ghetto, a bunker, if people don't contact them.

[duckguy]

OK I have gotten this working in other versions of Linux. I downloaded
Ghetto Skype 1.5.0 from https://github.com/stanfieldr/ghetto-skype;
Skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.81-1_i386.deb from http://www.tucows.com/thankyou.html?swid=853866 , and
skype-4.3.0.37.sfs from https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/pupp ... ages-tahr/
... and a few others. Nothing is working.

They compile, but the system spits them back out for missing dependencies. The puppy version from the Tahrpup archive won't convert from SFS, using the Xenial conversion utility as well.

Is there anyone that has the same issue?

Thanks in advance. B'H.

[duckguy]

... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...

Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.

[fredx181]

... 1.Create a Folder named XENIAL either on Usb-Stick (make it bootable ... 4.Apply Grub4dos to the Device you want to boot your Xenial Dog from .
5.Modify Grub4dos menu.lst as follow : ...

Hi,

I think I figured out why I do not have 'menu.lst' in my system. I am not booting from 'grub4dos'? Since 'menu.lst' is a subsidiarity of 'grub4dos'?

I think what I am booting from is called 'lilo'. I boot directly from the POST menu. So I do not run DOS. So, therefore 'grub4dos' will never work on my system? Doesn't 'grub4dos' require that DOS be running first? Or not?

In any case, I am not running DOS on this laptop. At all.

Thanks in advance, B'H.

Grub4dos does not require DOS and can be used on: ext2 ext3 ext4, NTFS and FAT32
Here's info from mikeslr and attached weeinst4Xenial to install grub4dos:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 077#950077
(in fact for Xenialdog64, but can be used for xenialdog32 also)

Fred

[mikeslr]

Hi duckguy,

The difficulty you've encountered is a consequence of the problem the creators had, not with the application, but what to name it. Grub4dos is not limited to only being used with dos. In fact, it is primarily used with Linux. But unlike other bootloaders for Linux, it can also be used with dos. So the name grub4dos probably seem a good way to distinguish it.

Similar problems: Wine -- which means "Wine is not an emulator". True, its an application layer but unless you're a techie, you won't care about that distinction.

Frugal install: Not a "cut-down", incomplete, minimized version of a "Full Install". Rather, a method of frugally utilizing your storage space, enabling you to run a Puppy from a folder/directory rather than requiring an entire partition; i.e., several Puppies can be placed on the same partition, or placed on a partition also holding Windows or a different Linux operating system. The alternate name "co-existent" install never caught on.

mikesLr

[Diogenes08]

I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?

[fredx181]

I know this information is probably out there, and I am way late to the game. But it seems that whenever I try to change the gtk theme, the eject/mount icons in my desktop partition icons, disappear. I have removed lxappearance for this reason, and any other gtk switcher seems to have the same problem. Advice?

Not sure if I understand well, you mean when changing icon theme ?
If so, yes indeed with some icon themes, the others are fine though.
You may want to install some other icon themes from synaptic.

Fred

[stretchystretch]

In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?

[fredx181]

In Porteus mode, is it normal that changes-ro boot parameter is completely ignored?

Yes, sorry, not all porteus cheat codes work, I have never tested changes-ro, btw, I wonder if it works in porteus distro itself (anyway can't find anything referring to it in the linuxrc init script).

Fred

[fredx181]

*** BionicDog Preview (Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver development) ***

Hi Everyone,

Very Alpha version because "Bionic Beaver" is in early development stage.
Also there is no custom 'BionicDog' repository yet.

I was curious if it's possible to make a 'Dog' out of it, e.g. which obstacles.
Couldn't make it work with startx, so Slim is installed (login manager)
Probably I'll open new thread for it next year when it reached stable state
So for those who already like to play with the "Beaver"

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root@live:~# cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu Bionic Beaver (development branch) \n \l

Login details:
root with password root (default automatic login)
puppy with password puppy

Specifications:
Built from an absolute minimal Ubuntu by using debootstrap.
Kernel: 4.13.0-16-generic
Choice of Boot Methods: porteus-boot and casper-boot , see options at the XenialDog Wiki
Default WM - OpenBox with lxpanel and pcmanfm providing the desktop
Default File Manager - pcmanfm with option to use rox.
Default Internet Browser - Firefox. (there is launcher for "apulse firefox", so audio works without pulseaudio installed)
Applications included: gnome-mplayer, abiword, pburn, pfind, gparted, synaptic, leafpad, quick-remaster, dogradio, peasymp3, frisbee, wex and more (but not as full featured as XenialDog)

Download (32 bit only):
ISO: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/nxy ... nicDog.iso Size: 303MB
Md5sum: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/env ... nicDog.md5

Fred

[ally]

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/Puppy_Linux_BionicDog

[backi]

Hi Fred !
Looking for a new challenge ?

Installed the "Beaver" frugally to a Usb-Stick porteus style with my preferred changes=EXIT:/ "No save during Session " option .
Except Frisbee did not find my Networks .......so i installed Wifibox-tazpanel instead ......now posting from Bionic Dog .

76 MiB ram usage idle.

Will further test and give Feedback .

Regards !