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What is the best bootloader for ISO's and Frugal installs?
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 15:55    Post subject:  

Wow, so freakin cool.

Posting a screenshot from Hiren's boot disk livecd booting from iso on flash drive.

I'm doing the posting via Saluki linux as iso on the same flash drive.


FYI, when rcrsn51 says leave partition 4 blank he means (a la gparted) to leave it as an unallocated area. I initially had it set as Fat and left it blank, but that didn't work; it has to remain unallocated.

Great tool! Will need to tweak for some iso's but man, that is just what I was looking for. Nice job! Cool
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 16:06    Post subject:  

steve_s wrote:
FYI, when rcrsn51 says leave partition 4 blank he means (a la gparted) to leave it as an unallocated area. I initially had it set as Fat and left it blank, but that didn't work; it has to remain unallocated.

Thanks. I changed the wording from "empty" to "unallocated".
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 16:26    Post subject:  

Good.

I ended up setting the partitions as fat32, swap, then ext3, leaving about 4 gigs unallocated at the end for partition 4.
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mekalu2k4

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 17:21    Post subject: ok, good one on Windows
Subject description: isobooter works on windows
 

You guys are really amazing. first thing is that this tool works. second thing is that your screen shot showing a few ISOs of windows OS. Now I have a volley of questions - please bear with me!

1. I am now working only Linux. Would like to have Wine or Oracle VM for windows (mainly for office- Outlook to store my office mails). Which one is best - Wine Vs Oracle VM?

2. Is it possible to boot into ISO of a windows OS (as you got on your key) and to do the work?

3. If yes to question 2; then Is it possible to make a ISO Win 8 + Office 2013 ?

For now these are the questions, I do not want to harass you guys much for now. This forum is a killer, keeping me busy all through the vacation.

I wish everyone on this forum - A very happy and successful new year 2015 !!
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 17:56    Post subject:  

steve_s wrote:
leaving about 4 gigs unallocated at the end for partition 4.

You don't even need to do that. You can fill the flash drive with the other partitions, as long as Partition #4 is not defined.

When ISObooter runs, it uses the fourth slot in the MBR partition table to mount the ISO, so the OS can find its required files (like a Puppy SFS file) that are hiding inside.
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steve_s


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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 18:26    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
steve_s wrote:
leaving about 4 gigs unallocated at the end for partition 4.

You don't even need to do that. You can fill the flash drive with the other partitions, as long as Partition #4 is not defined.

When ISObooter runs, it uses the fourth slot in the MBR partition table to mount the ISO, so the OS can find its required files (like a Puppy SFS file) that are hiding inside.


Ah, gotcha. Ok, may repartition.
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Dec 2014, 18:31    Post subject: Re: ok, good one on Windows
Subject description: isobooter works on windows
 

mekalu2k4 wrote:
You guys are really amazing. first thing is that this tool works. second thing is that your screen shot showing a few ISOs of windows OS. Now I have a volley of questions - please bear with me!

1. I am now working only Linux. Would like to have Wine or Oracle VM for windows (mainly for office- Outlook to store my office mails). Which one is best - Wine Vs Oracle VM?

2. Is it possible to boot into ISO of a windows OS (as you got on your key) and to do the work?

3. If yes to question 2; then Is it possible to make a ISO Win 8 + Office 2013 ?

For now these are the questions, I do not want to harass you guys much for now. This forum is a killer, keeping me busy all through the vacation.

I wish everyone on this forum - A very happy and successful new year 2015 !!


In linux I like wine if I've gotta do Win stuff. Never tried Oracle.

Using the technique outlined by rcrsn51 I've booted that windows livecd iso, and the Hiren's and Falcon 4, which both have mini-xp OS's once they are booted. They have a whole lot of other stuff, but they are also the xp livecd. They boot great. **Edit: yeah, that screenshot is from the Hiren's livecd booted from the flash drive using Isobooter.

As far as Win 8, I have no idea. Might check with BartPE and Reatogo (google em) to see if someone has done the Win 8 stuff.

And a very happy new year to you as well. yeah, this forum is still the best linux forum I've ever used, and possibly the best forum over all. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jan 2015, 11:46    Post subject: Re: ok, good one on Windows
Subject description: isobooter works on windows
 

mekalu2k4 wrote:
isobooter works on windows

Thanks for the test.
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:16    Post subject: Running puppy's as frugal installs instead of iso's  

FYI: I wanted to run the Puppy's as frugal installs since they are, of course, quicker that way than running as iso's/livecd's.

So, on my third partition of this flash drive (the first one is a fat that has isobooter and all my iso files, and the second partition is a swap) I made folders and then clicked on the puppy iso file I wanted then copied all the contents into their respective folders. And I also wanted the save files for each to be contained in their respective folders, so I then eddited the menu.lst file on the first partition like this:

Code:

title puppy-carolina
kernel (hd0,2)/carolina/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=usb psubdir=carolina
initrd (hd0,2)/carolina/initrd.gz

title puppy-unicorn
kernel (hd0,2)/unicorn/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=usb psubdir=unicorn
initrd (hd0,2)/unicorn/initrd.gz


Works great. You can change the partition you have stuff on and/or the folder names, etc, but this format works. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jan 2015, 12:35    Post subject: Re: Running puppy's as frugal installs instead of iso's  

steve_s wrote:
kernel (hd0,2)/carolina/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=usb psubdir=carolina

FYI, the boot argument "root=/dev/ram0" was deprecated after Puppy 2. Also "pmedia=usb" should probably be "pmedia=usbflash".
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jan 2015, 14:16    Post subject: Re: Running puppy's as frugal installs instead of iso's  

rcrsn51 wrote:
steve_s wrote:
kernel (hd0,2)/carolina/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=usb psubdir=carolina

FYI, the boot argument "root=/dev/ram0" was deprecated after Puppy 2. Also "pmedia=usb" should probably be "pmedia=usbflash".


Thanks! Can I just leave out the root argument? **seems that is a yes on both, works great, thanks!
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mikeb


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Jan 2015, 07:17    Post subject:  

Quote:
FYI, the boot argument "root=/dev/ram0" was deprecated after Puppy 2
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well its not required when cpio initrds are used...... just to clarify that for anyone reading in case they like me continue with non disposable initrds Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 02:42    Post subject: For people not speaking english
Subject description: Foreigners have a different navel
 

IMO Grub4Dos is the easier, no doubt about that. But i use ISOBOOTER from time to time.
I write here to underline that at least 1000 tutos exist on you tube 'how to boot' a Puppy but none about ISOBOOTER. I delete mine yesterday because capture was bad.
Quite all Puppies Videos on you tube include install.
But install a Puppy is so easy.. isn' it ?
S-kami did one for each hungarian Puppy. Sur s-kami spoke Magyar, but Puppies on screen are english.
French tuto
Kálmán Staudinger is a full installer of hungarian Puppies
When People here in the forum will have only explanations in chinese or arabic available, they will understan that written tuto is not useful at all but video are a chance. I am a French guy having practised English at the office. Most of us did not practice English since school.
Hugarians just type Kálmán Staudinger in you tube to get his videos listed
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 03:18    Post subject: Asia is where Puppy Linux is the more downloaded.
Subject description: Frugal install 284 videos available, most in English
 

Frugal install 284 videos available, most in English

Asia is where Puppy Linux is the more downloaded.

Spanish has a section in the forum. German too. Russian, hungarian and Japan have a forum.
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