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Robert123

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Sep 2017, 20:36    Post subject: Re: Woof-CE, Git usage, etc
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belham2 wrote:
[quote=".

Question now is: how can it be rectified, and strcutured to make it better and not allow it to happen again. I wish I was gifted enough with coding and Linux that I could tell Micko to go to the beach for a few more years, I'll drive it forward and learn from Peebee what it takes to stay on top of it. Unfortunately, this old man's skills are pushed to the limit with what little I already do concerning Puppy. Even my Dpup I made & released some months back stunk because Ttuuuxxx has more skill in his pinkie than I do in my whole body Crying or Very sad


2 things Belham at least you had a go and your Dpup I believe I tried and it was very usable. With regards to developers - Sailor Enceladus is no slouch either - his Puduan is most usable and stable for a modern Puppy.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 03:32    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:

.. and that this would be enough to pull down the latest changes in woof-CE into a user fork.. ?

Yes.
Although, I would avoid rebase in a collaborative project.

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Sep 2017, 05:27    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:

.. and that this would be enough to pull down the latest changes in woof-CE into a user fork.. ?

Yes.
Although, I would avoid rebase in a collaborative project.


Yeah OK, merge to be safe..

If you are working alone on a branch (a feature or bugfix branch in your fork) it may be OK to rebase, otherwise be very careful..

Fomr the page mavrothal linked to:

Quote:
So, before you run git rebase, always ask yourself, “Is anyone else looking at this branch?” If the answer is yes, take your hands off the keyboard and start thinking about a non-destructive way to make your changes (e.g., the git revert command). Otherwise, you’re safe to re-write history as much as you like.

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PostPosted: Sun 10 Sep 2017, 22:17    Post subject:  

@mavrothal

Thank you for the break down, that helps me understand the areas covered in Woof a little easier. The only section I've used is the kernel-kit. I'm quite fond of it, I used it to compile my first kernel and it's only got easier and more streamlined to use since then.


@sc0ttman

Wow, I really appreciate you replying each part of my post. I have literally been having some of these thoughts for years since I read Iguleder's first post Laughing

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At work we use the "get hit by a bus" method.. If Phil, 01micko, mavrothal and others were hit by a bus tomorrow, then who could step in and immediately continue the work they would have been doing?


It's interesting you should mention this as I often find myself chasing Jemimah's bug fixing trail across the forum. Thankfully she did post her fixes as she found them, so I try do the same. Obviously though if we were using a formalized bug issue tracker with patches (sorry, I don't know what that system is called) the fixes would be easier to identify.

I think my point in asking if a Woof-CE Xenial build would end up exactly like Phil's is I was wondering how much of his work was recorded back into git. I suppose that could be a project, putting all his changes that didn't make it back upstream.


@all

This discussion has been useful. I'm sorry that often the answer has already previously been given, but the revised phrasing sometimes helps it get through my thick skull a little better with each rereading.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Sep 2017, 10:28    Post subject: woof-CE needs you  

I installed the Slacko64 that uses the 4.9.30 kernel, then created a
work64 on the hard drive and did a rationalise build of xenialpup64
using the 4.9.15 kernel.
This morning I booted Slacko64,opened the work64 directory and used
the kernel kit to build the 4.9.49 kernel,copied the new kernel to huge
kernel directory and did ./3builddistro-Z to build a new xenialpup64.

root# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc27121 Kernel: 4.9.49 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.4
Machine: Device: desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: p7-1246s serial: MXX232077R
Mobo: Foxconn model: 2ADA v: 1.00 BIOS: AMI v: 7.12 date: 06/07/2012
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i5-3550 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3301 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia tty size: 133x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 3000.6GB (0.5% used)
Weather: Conditions: 55 F (13 C) - Clear Time: September 11, 9:54 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 201 Uptime: 1:05 Memory: 675.8/12037.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
root#

I installed the proprietary nvidia driver.
inxi shows 675.8 memory usage while kodi,palmoon,and a couple of
smaller applications are running.

This result is kind of magical (to me at least) since I am not a
developer (just a puppy user) and can use woof-CE as a self-serve puppy
builder (slacko and xenialpup at least)

I'm sure woof-CE will get even better as new developers contribute to
it but it's not bad right now in my opinion Smile
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 16:29    Post subject:  

Hi all,

Does anyone know if woof-CE or ibiblio is down today/tonight? I tested many things off ibiblio, and it seems fine. I've been trying to do a few builds, and no matter what I test (whether in the "testing" branch and/or the "rationalize" branch, any 32 or 64 bit build, whether slacko, ubuntu, debian, etc), I am greeted with the exact same response as shown here (using stretch as the example):
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 16:34    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone know if woof-CE or ibiblio is down today/tonight? I tested many things off ibiblio, and it seems fine. I've been trying to do a few builds, and no matter what I test (whether in the "testing" branch and/or the "rationalize" branch, any 32 or 64 bit build, whether slacko, ubuntu, debian, etc), I am greeted with the exact same response as shown here (using stretch as the example):

There is no Packages-Puppy-Stretch-Official repository on ibiblio.....

It is however on github:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/tree/testing/woof-distro/x86/debian/stretch

so just press return and carry on....

ibiblio is up with no problems....

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/testing/woof-distro/x86/debian/stretch/DISTRO_PET_REPOS

says that this repo is actually on:
http://01micko.com/wdlkmpx/puppylinux|Packages-puppy-stretch-official

is it still there????

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belham2

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 16:45    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
belham2 wrote:
Hi all,

Does anyone know if woof-CE or ibiblio is down today/tonight? I tested many things off ibiblio, and it seems fine. I've been trying to do a few builds, and no matter what I test (whether in the "testing" branch and/or the "rationalize" branch, any 32 or 64 bit build, whether slacko, ubuntu, debian, etc), I am greeted with the exact same response as shown here (using stretch as the example):

There is no Packages-Puppy-Stretch-Official repository on ibiblio.....

It is however on github:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/tree/testing/woof-distro/x86/debian/stretch

so just press return and carry on....

ibiblio is up with no problems....


Hi Peebee,

Thanks for the quick reply. I did push on through, with two builds (one dpup, the other xenial), and each time it brought back a whale load of "FAIL" messages in terms of looking for stuff needed. I didn't ever remember seeing that before in all the builds I've previously done, so I stopped. So just push on through that too? Well I just did, and the building process stopped because no packages could be downloaded as they were not found/listed. So what the heck???

Darn, I am really confused now..... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 16:47    Post subject:  

http://01micko.com/wdlkmpx/puppylinux/ says

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /wdlkmpx/puppylinux/ on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Sep 2017, 16:56    Post subject:  

I've alerted wdlkmpx (aka jlst but not on forum anymore) on github that there's a problem....
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 21:50    Post subject: woof-CE needs you  

I did a new rationalise build of slacko 6.9.9.9 while running slacko64.
# uname -ra
Linux puppypc27789 4.4.88-pae #1 SMP Sun Sep 17 16:14:17 EDT 2017
i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
#

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8135 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 4060MB (335MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Slacko Puppy - 6.9.9.9
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 17 Sep 2017 09:13:17 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1680x1050 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV610 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
Audio Adapter PC-Speaker - pcsp
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

I used the UEFI Installer - Flash Drives to a 32gb flash drive.
I installed all the usual applications with PPM,also added radky's JWMDesk-2.4.pet and JWM_themes_update-2.0.pet to make things look nice.

I couldn't get the internal speaker of the Imac working so I'm using an usb sound card which
is working perfect.

The savefile is limited to 4gb, using the resize personal storage file utility screws it up totally.
There's still 2.8gb free after adding quite a few applications.
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 05:30    Post subject:  

Anybody else noticed that the:

pfix=nox
pfix=xorgwizard

kernel boot switches do not work on any recent pups?

They do work on xenialpup-7.0.8.1 but unfortunately it's /etc/DISTRO_SPECS does not have a BUILT_FROM_WOOF line....

They don't work on slacko-6.9.9.9 (BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;762210b;2017-06-13) or any more recent pups that I've tried.

Sad Confused Crying or Very sad Question

I'll raise an issue on github.....

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 08:43    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
Anybody else noticed that the:

pfix=nox
pfix=xorgwizard

kernel boot switches do not work on any recent pups?

It would appear that is a problem of the new init. /initrd/tmp/bootinit.log shows
Quote:
touch: /pup_new/tmp/xwin_xorgwizard_cli: No such file or directory
touch: /pup_new/tmp/bootcnt.txt: No such file or directory

You may want to alert @gyro

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