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Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog
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zagreb999

Joined: 11 Apr 2014
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Location: Yugoslavija

PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 08:03    Post subject:  

hi fred,

for me on lenovo 32 bit, hp 32 bit
laptops, fat32, stretch boots perfectly
from usb.

only pulseaudio can not be activated.
works perfetly.
regards.
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fredx181


Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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Location: holland

PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 13:54    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
First time I tested booting Stretch with porteus-boot from FAT32.

It did not work, tried with grub4dos and syslinux, no go.("could not find data" error)
(Jessie boots fine using porteus-boot from FAT32 for me)

Same for me with other Stretch variants, e.g. Trinitydog-Stretch


The fix was easier than I expected, made a change in linuxrc (added one more module to load)
Re-uploaded to github the files required for creating initrd1.xz (including new linuxrc, the init script)

zagreb999 wrote:
hi fred,

for me on lenovo 32 bit, hp 32 bit
laptops, fat32, stretch boots perfectly
from usb.

only pulseaudio can not be activated.
works perfetly.
regards.


Ok, you could boot Stretch using porteus-boot with kernel 4.9 from FAT32 partition, right ?
Looks like it's machine dependent then.(I have also HP laptop, btw)

Anyway for me it's fixed, but still curious if someone had the same problem.

About pulseaudio, for me 'pulseaudio --start' works fine, not for you ?

Fred
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 14:22    Post subject:  

hi fred.
an iso produced with your script
works fine.
i have to replace kernel from
pupjibaro, but intrd is the same.
(on my computers kernel 4.9 can not boot)
-----------------------------------
yes, it is porteus boot.

for me only pulseaudio can not work-
can you upload squashfs activated?

best regards.
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 14:37    Post subject:  

More details ,please, what's the problem exactly ?
After installing pulseaudio, what happens then when you type in terminal:
Code:
pulseaudio --start


If that doesn't work for you, a pulseaudio sfs will not work also

EDIT:
Kernel 4.9 doesn't boot at all for you ?
I have a problem also with 4.9, (extreme long boot time), but when I add:
Code:
video=SVIDEO-1:d

to the kernel boot command line, then the problem is solved

Fred
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 15:16    Post subject: pulseaudio  

pulseaudio daemon startup failed

there is no way to activate pulseaudio on
my computers in live stretchdog.
in debiandog and xenialdog
no problems.
--------------
you see: i have never seen
wifi connection better than in
live stretch with frisbee with kernel
4.5 pupjibaro.
it is always 100 %.
no need of additional firmware.
with all linux kernels i have to add additonal
firmware.
not only: this combination is perfect.
it boots quickly
----------------
thank you!
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jd7654

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Sep 2017, 15:40    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
First time I tested booting Stretch with porteus-boot from FAT32.
...
Did anyone have the same problem ?
...
Anyway for me it's fixed, but still curious if someone had the same problem.


Previously, only had tested DebLive-Stretch on Ext4 with changes folder, and on NTFS with changes savefile.

Tried on one PC to move over from Ext4 to FAT32, and confirmed boot failed.(searching for stretch-i486.sgn)

Will test your fix later, have to rebuild again to get the new init.

EDIT: Confirmed new init fixed Fat32 porteus boot, works fine now.
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Sep 2017, 09:41    Post subject:  

jd7654 wrote:
Will test your fix later, have to rebuild again to get the new init.

EDIT: Confirmed new init fixed Fat32 porteus boot, works fine now.


Thanks !
I'm glad that I could fix it rather easlily, it would be bad news if such important feature, booting from FAT32 not being supported anymore for Stretch.

Fred
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Doglover

Joined: 24 Jun 2006
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Location: Humboldt

PostPosted: Fri 15 Sep 2017, 10:32    Post subject:  

Hi Fred

pulseaudio will not run as root unless...?????


root@live:~# pulseaudio --start
W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Sep 2017, 13:27    Post subject:  

Hi Doglover,

Quote:
root@live:~# pulseaudio --start
W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).


Yes, I get that warning also, but pulseaudio is activated ok.

Fred
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Sep 2017, 17:08    Post subject: utf-8 support in DebianDog and variants  

Debiandog and variants always had very limited utf-8 support
Only "uxterm" has support for it

For example, this doesn't work from xterm
But it does from uxterm
Quote:
Simple 3 day, morning, noon, evening, night weather data ...

In a terminal type
Code:
curl wttr.in/london


From post by rufwoof:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=967780#967780

To have system-wide support for utf-8, there;'s simple fix:
Create a file named: "locale" in /etc/default and copy and paste inside:
Code:
LANG=en_US.UTF-8



Then exit X, and type from console:
Code:
logout

(not startx)

And the weather command should work from any terminal
(just taking this as example, anything that requires utf-8 support should work then)

This (taken from rufwoof's example 3rd post) gives better view (smaller font size):
Code:
CITY=amsterdam  #  << change to your city
xterm -T "Weather" -geometry 136x44+0+0 -fa DejaVu:size=8 -e "curl wttr.in/~$CITY; read -s -n 1 -p 'Press any key to close . . .'"


Added the file /etc/default/locale now to the base files (at github) used for a build, so any new Stretch-Live build will have utf-8 support now.

Fred
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 07:18    Post subject:  

*** Update mklive-stretch ***

No major changes, just bugfix:
I found that sometimes, only when the script is interrupted, one or more 'bind mounts' are not unmounted, could result in crashing the host system.
Fixed by using 'umount -l' (lazy unmount) in case script is interrupted.

Other change is that two times user input are following close to each other now (set password root, puppy and keyboard configuration), which is more convenient IMO.

New mklive-stretch:
mklive-stretch script

Fred
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rcrsn51


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Location: Stratford, Ontario

PostPosted: Sun 17 Sep 2017, 10:41    Post subject:  

This is the PeasyMP3 general-purpose media player, CD player and carousel. It uses MPlayer as the engine and can play most audio-video formats, including radio streams.

By modifying /root/.asoundrc, you can enable an alternate sound card or the ALSA equalizer.

Update: PeasyMP3 now has a tray launcher. Note the separate 32bit and 64bit packages below.

Remove the fake .gz extension.
peasymp3_4.1-2_i386.deb.gz
Description  Updated 2018-02-07
with gnome-mplayer fix
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Doglover

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 14:43    Post subject:  

I solved the no audio in youtube and pulseaudio issues by just adding a non root user. It all works fine now.

Nice job Fred
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 14:48    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
This is the PeasyMP3 general-purpose media player, CD player and carousel. It uses MPlayer as the engine and can play most audio-video formats, including radio streams.


Thanks, very nice program!
One thing, when gnome-mplayer is already installed it will be replaced by gmplayer.
Is it ok when gnome-mplayer stays installed in that case, so gmplayer will be installed only if gnome-mplayer is not already installed.
This change in control file will do it like that (gmplayer priority)
Code:
Depends: gmplayer | gnome-mplayer-1.0.7, icedax, eject, xterm, libasound2-plugin-equal


Then two separate packages for 32 and 64 bit are required (with gnome-mplayer-1.0.6 dependency for 64 bit) which I'll build then if you confirm OK.

EDIT: @all
The dependency "libasound2-plugin-equal" from PeasyMP3 reminds me that I forgot to add it to the install configs for 'full dogs' (needed for menu entry "Alsa Equalizer"), I've done it now.

Fred
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Sep 2017, 15:38    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
One thing, when gnome-mplayer is already installed it will be replaced by gmplayer.
Is it ok when gnome-mplayer stays installed in that case, so gmplayer will be installed only if gnome-mplayer is not already installed.

That's fine. In my testing, gnome-mplayer played all my basic sample audio-video files.

I am taking Oscar's word that there are more modern codecs that require the newer version.
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