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#441 Post by watchdog »

@Walter Dnes

Happy news: your build is working in puppy 4.31 with glibc219tweak. New libstdc++.so.6 was needed: I took it from ubuntu xenial xerus 32 bit.
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Robert123
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#442 Post by Robert123 »

watchdog wrote:@Walter Dnes

Happy news: your build is working in puppy 4.31 with glibc219tweak. New libstdc++.so.6 was needed: I took it from ubuntu xenial xerus 32 bit.
Cool thanks Watchdog thank you we can still use these old pups, because of your hard work.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#443 Post by festus »

Hey, all

I am running Stardustpup013glibc2.10, on an old box with a 2001 athlon processor, and was wondering if any of these modern palemoon spins will run on it?

These are the processor specs:

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AMD Athlon(tm) processor
Socket Designation: Socket A
Manufacturer: AMD
Voltage: 3.3 V
External Clock: 133 MHz
Max Speed: 500 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:1333 MHz
This old box also has 640 MB RAM

I tried walter's, palemoon-27.4.2SSE.linux-i686, from the terminal and this is what it reported: "Illegal instruction"

Am I using the incorrect build of p-moon, or it just will not run on this old of a processor?

Thank you for any advice

festus

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#444 Post by watchdog »

Hi, festus. Try one of the following 27.4.2 palemoon glibctweaked:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 621#960621

In console:

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cat /proc/cpuinfo
If sse2 flag is reported use the mainline palemoon. Otherwise use the sse version.

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#445 Post by festus »

Thanks for the info, watchdog

Here is the report of:

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# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 6
model           : 4
model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) processor
stepping        : 2
cpu MHz         : 1333.305
cache size      : 256 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up
bogomips        : 2666.61
clflush size    : 32
power management:
I then installed palemoon-27.4.2-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet

terminal returned this:

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# palemoon
/usr/bin/palemoon: line 3:  7063 Illegal instruction     /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon "$@"
To me it looks like this processor will NOT be able to run these versions of palemoon.

Oh well, maybe an older version of firefox will work.

Thanks, again,

festus

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#446 Post by Robert123 »

Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#447 Post by festus »

Robert123 wrote:Hi Festus,

Does this work?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107857
Yes, this ffx-27 does work on my old box, and I'm a thanking you for the link. :)

bliss,
festus

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#448 Post by Robert123 »

Good thing is 8GEEE is working on it to keep it up to date.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#449 Post by Jose A. Senna »

Here is the cpuinfo for the machine I am using with Racy 5.5:

processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 5
model name : Pentium II (Deschutes)
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 350.756
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr up
bogomips : 701.74
clflush size : 32
cache_alignment: 32
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

I think this rules out Palemoon, from what I read in this thread and in Palemoon site.
Is there any other option ?

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#450 Post by greengeek »

I would be keen to see a separate thread for an SSE version of Palemoon - it's a bit of a struggle to find which post references a suitable version for a PC that lacks SSE2.

As an alternative to a separate thread - could anyone link to a post which offers a version for SSE only CPU?

cheers!

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Re: Pale Moon 27.4.0

#451 Post by greengeek »

Walter Dnes wrote:For Pentium3-class machines, the SSE-only build is downloadable at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE- ... 86.tar.bz2.
Hi Walter - this link seems dead for me. Is it still correct? cheers

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#452 Post by Robert123 »

Hi Greengeek,

Seems dead here too.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

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#453 Post by 6502coder »

Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.

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Pointer to Pale Moon SSE version

#454 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:I would be keen to see a separate thread for an SSE version of Palemoon - it's a bit of a struggle to find which post references a suitable version for a PC that lacks SSE2.

As an alternative to a separate thread - could anyone link to a post which offers a version for SSE only CPU?

cheers!
HI; I do an SSE contributed build for 32-bit linux Pale Moon. See Pale Moon forum thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530 Note that since this is not the mainstream build, (un)installation has to be done manually from the tarball. What I find easiest is to...
  • create a directory in my home dire, e.g. $HOME/pm
    cd $HOME/pm
    Download the current SSE tarball to $HOME/pm/ The current tarball URL is ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE- ... 86.tar.bz2
    killall palemoon (as a precaution)
    rm -rf palemoon This deletes/"uninstalls" the local Pale Moon in directory $HOME/pm/palemoon
    tar -xvjf <tarball_name> This "installs" the local Pale Moon
    The basic launch command is $HOME/pm/palemoon/palemoon (YES!)
    Put that command into whatever menubar/program-launcher/etc you use.
This process installs in the user's home directory, and only the user can use it. If you change $HOME/pm/ to /opt or /usr/local, then all users can use it. I don't expect multiple users on a Pentium3-class machine (i.e. SSE-only)

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#455 Post by Walter Dnes »

6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.
That's right; the version number is part of the tarball name, so your method works best for handling the constantly changing names. I also update a dedicated thread on the Pale Moon forum as new versions are uploaded https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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#456 Post by greengeek »

6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?

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#457 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?
I've been using this version by Walter Dnes as backup browser in Slacko 5.7 for a while (the date on my download is July 17th). There are some things that work in Palemoon that don't in Firefox 28, then some other things that don't work in Palemoon and I need to use Firefox 52esr, then some things that don't even work in Firefox 52esr and I need to use Slimjet (rare). Normally I use Firefox 28 though because it seems the most stable. I uploaded a mirror of the Walter Dnes palemoon I downloaded here:

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code ... VuXuY7XiC7

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#458 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?
The password is "get". Here's how to do it in one line, by including it in the URL

ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

My understanding is that this is intended to prevent search engines from constantly downloading it, and wasting bandwidth.

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Pale Moon 27.5.0 available

#459 Post by Walter Dnes »

Pale Moon version 27.5.0 is available. A lot of improvements; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

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#460 Post by RickGT351 »

One cool thing about palemoon is that you don't have to worry about installing pulse audio so you can have sound. That's what put me off firefox

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