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greengeek


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Sep 2017, 14:52    Post subject: Re: Pale Moon 27.4.0
Subject description: Latest versions (linux)
 

Walter Dnes wrote:
For Pentium3-class machines, the SSE-only build is downloadable at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/palemoon-27.4.0SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2.
Hi Walter - this link seems dead for me. Is it still correct? cheers
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Robert123

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Sep 2017, 15:24    Post subject:  

Hi Greengeek,

Seems dead here too.

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6502coder


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Location: Western United States

PostPosted: Fri 22 Sep 2017, 18:09    Post subject:  

Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.
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Walter Dnes

Joined: 30 Dec 2016
Posts: 94

PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 00:32    Post subject: Pointer to Pale Moon SSE version  

greengeek wrote:
I would be keen to see a separate thread for an SSE version of Palemoon - it's a bit of a struggle to find which post references a suitable version for a PC that lacks SSE2.

As an alternative to a separate thread - could anyone link to a post which offers a version for SSE only CPU?

cheers!

HI; I do an SSE contributed build for 32-bit linux Pale Moon. See Pale Moon forum thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530 Note that since this is not the mainstream build, (un)installation has to be done manually from the tarball. What I find easiest is to...
    create a directory in my home dire, e.g. $HOME/pm
    cd $HOME/pm
    Download the current SSE tarball to $HOME/pm/ The current tarball URL is ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/palemoon-27.4.2SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2
    killall palemoon (as a precaution)
    rm -rf palemoon This deletes/"uninstalls" the local Pale Moon in directory $HOME/pm/palemoon
    tar -xvjf <tarball_name> This "installs" the local Pale Moon
    The basic launch command is $HOME/pm/palemoon/palemoon (YES!)
    Put that command into whatever menubar/program-launcher/etc you use.

This process installs in the user's home directory, and only the user can use it. If you change $HOME/pm/ to /opt or /usr/local, then all users can use it. I don't expect multiple users on a Pentium3-class machine (i.e. SSE-only)
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 00:43    Post subject:  

6502coder wrote:
Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine.

That's right; the version number is part of the tarball name, so your method works best for handling the constantly changing names. I also update a dedicated thread on the Pale Moon forum as new versions are uploaded https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 05:01    Post subject:  

6502coder wrote:
Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?
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Sailor Enceladus

Joined: 22 Feb 2016
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 09:05    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:
Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?

I've been using this version by Walter Dnes as backup browser in Slacko 5.7 for a while (the date on my download is July 17th). There are some things that work in Palemoon that don't in Firefox 28, then some other things that don't work in Palemoon and I need to use Firefox 52esr, then some things that don't even work in Firefox 52esr and I need to use Slimjet (rare). Normally I use Firefox 28 though because it seems the most stable. I uploaded a mirror of the Walter Dnes palemoon I downloaded here:

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZgJO77ZHNbEqzBtRhfpUP5GXeVuXuY7XiC7
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2017, 09:44    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
6502coder wrote:
Go first to

ftp://contrib@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

then click on the .tar.bz2 file. I just did it, downloaded just fine
How did you get past the password request?

The password is "get". Here's how to do it in one line, by including it in the URL

ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

My understanding is that this is intended to prevent search engines from constantly downloading it, and wasting bandwidth.
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2017, 20:36    Post subject: Pale Moon 27.5.0 available  

Pale Moon version 27.5.0 is available. A lot of improvements; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/
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RickGT351

Joined: 27 Sep 2011
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2017, 23:29    Post subject:  

One cool thing about palemoon is that you don't have to worry about installing pulse audio so you can have sound. That's what put me off firefox
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed 27 Sep 2017, 00:45    Post subject:  

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkLWlSWWVrMWFXTTA/view?usp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkZjVOYXNic2JlT3M/view?usp=sharing

EDIT:
palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkVHBtRFktajRZUmM/view?usp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4UZBeFkaGtnVnpkeWNYdUE/view?usp=sharing

See this previous post about installing in puppy4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=953134#953134

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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Oct 2017, 21:22    Post subject: Re: Pale Moon 27.5.1 available  

Pale Moon version 27.5.1 is available. This is a security and stability update to the browser, as well as fixing some issues users have indicated; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/
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rerwin


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Location: Maine, USA

PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 12:44    Post subject:  

I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid (5.2.8.7-20170923) pup environment along with flashplayer, to test with a known video site. When I click to start playing a video, it plays normally. If I then close the tab or exit the browser, either by menu or "X", I see the following messages:
Code:
/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  6890 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.

EDIT:
I installed the NoScript extension, which resulted in its being displayed in a new tab. But the xerrs.log showed those messages after logging 967 sets of messages:
Code:
(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_alloc_colors: assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_modify_bg: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_visual: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_new: assertion `GDK_IS_VISUAL (visual)' failed
But NoScript seems to work as well as ever.
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 15:43    Post subject:  

rerwin wrote:
I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid

[...snip...]

The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.

You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?
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rerwin


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 23:10    Post subject:  

Walter Dnes wrote:
You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?
Code:
# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family   : 15
model      : 2
model name   : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
stepping   : 7
cpu MHz      : 2392.047
cache size   : 512 KB
fdiv_bug   : no
hlt_bug      : no
f00f_bug   : no
coma_bug   : no
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 2
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts cid xtpr
bogomips   : 4784.09
clflush size   : 64
cache_alignment   : 128
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:


Thanks for pointing out the flashplayer constraint. I just now reran the flashplayer test with the non-SSE version, palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet, receiving the same error messages:
Code:
/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  5351 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
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