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watchdog · #461 Post by **watchdog** » Wed 27 Sep 2017, 04:45

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.0-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

EDIT:
palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

See this previous post about installing in puppy4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 134#953134

Walter Dnes · #462 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Wed 11 Oct 2017, 01:22

Pale Moon version 27.5.1 is available. This is a security and stability update to the browser, as well as fixing some issues users have indicated; see list at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/

rerwin · #463 Post by **rerwin** » Thu 12 Oct 2017, 16:44

I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid (5.2.8.7-20170923) pup environment along with flashplayer, to test with a known video site. When I click to start playing a video, it plays normally. If I then close the tab or exit the browser, either by menu or "X", I see the following messages:

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/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  6890 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv

The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.

EDIT:
I installed the NoScript extension, which resulted in its being displayed in a new tab. But the xerrs.log showed those messages after logging 967 sets of messages:

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(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_alloc_colors: assertion `GDK_IS_COLORMAP (colormap)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_modify_bg: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_visual: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

(<unknown>:25509): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_new: assertion `GDK_IS_VISUAL (visual)' failed

But NoScript seems to work as well as ever.

Walter Dnes · #464 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Thu 12 Oct 2017, 19:43

rerwin wrote:I installed palemoon-27.5.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet in a new lucid

[...snip...]

The segmentation fault seems related to the exit from a tab or browser with a plugin in use, so might be a broader problem than just for videos.

You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?

rerwin · #465 Post by **rerwin** » Fri 13 Oct 2017, 03:10

Walter Dnes wrote:You mentioned the SSE build, so I assume that you're running on a Pentium3-class machine, which does not support SSE2. Adobe Flash for linux has used SSE2 instructions for a long time. It will not work on a machine that doesn't support SSE2... period... end of story. What is the output of "cat /proc/cpuinfo" on the problem machine?

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# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor	: 0
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 15
model		: 2
model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
stepping	: 7
cpu MHz		: 2392.047
cache size	: 512 KB
fdiv_bug	: no
hlt_bug		: no
f00f_bug	: no
coma_bug	: no
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 2
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe up pebs bts cid xtpr
bogomips	: 4784.09
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 128
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

Thanks for pointing out the flashplayer constraint. I just now reran the flashplayer test with the non-SSE version, palemoon-27.5.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet, receiving the same error messages:

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/usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container: line 3:  5351 Segmentation fault      /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/usr/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon/glibc219/libstdc++:/usr/X11R7/lib:/usr/lib/palemoon /usr/lib/palemoon/plugin-container-exec "$@"

###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv


###!!! [Parent][MessageChannel::Call] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv

Walter Dnes · #466 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Fri 13 Oct 2017, 04:51

So the problem is not the machine. I took a look at the Gentoo ebuild (like Puppy .pet) of Adobe-Flash. Among the items listed for "NPAPI_RDEPEND" in the Gentoo ebuild is ">=sys-libs/glibc-2.4". I.e. it needs AT LEAST glibc-2.4 on Gentoo. Here's the full list. Ignore the "[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]" variable, which doesn't apply to Lucid Puppy.

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NPAPI_RDEPEND="
        dev-libs/atk[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/glib:2[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/nspr[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        dev-libs/nss[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        media-libs/fontconfig[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        media-libs/freetype[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        >=sys-libs/glibc-2.4
        x11-libs/cairo[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/gtk+:2[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libX11[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXcursor[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXext[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXrender[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/libXt[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]
        x11-libs/pango[${MULTILIB_USEDEP}]

Is there anything in the list that looks like a showstopper, besides glibc-2.4? According to Adobe's flashplayer-techspecs webpage http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplay ... specs.html the requirements for linux are...

YUM, TAR.GZ, RPM and APT packages for NPAPI and PPAPI
Latest versions of Firefox or Google Chrome

watchdog · #467 Post by **watchdog** » Fri 13 Oct 2017, 05:15

I also got aware of the problem. Using an old flashplayer (version 26.0.0.143) does not throw the problem. I am in puppy 4.31 (startdust).

watchdog · #468 Post by **watchdog** » Fri 13 Oct 2017, 17:34

In stretch puppy closing a tab in palemoon containing flash content throws an error about missing libvdpau_i965.so. No package provides the missing lib. Flashplayer 26.0 is also affected but in some ways palemoon let see the flash content.

sindi · #469 Post by **sindi** » Sun 15 Oct 2017, 20:06

Latest Pale Moon 27.5 in Lupu (Sulu) 2016 still plays youtube only 360p
Tahr with 27.4 same problem. Preferences, Content: - MSE stuff is enabled..

Seamonkey 2.4.6 and Chrome 41 offer all the resolutions but use too much RAM and I have 512MB. Smtube (I even tried version 17) only plays some Youtube videos. VLC from 2014 in Tahr does not help.

I would like 240p on older laptops and 480p or even 720p on 'new' ones (2007).

Walter Dnes · #470 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Sun 15 Oct 2017, 21:12

sindi wrote:Latest Pale Moon 27.5 in Lupu (Sulu) 2016 still plays youtube only 360p
Tahr with 27.4 same problem. Preferences, Content: - MSE stuff is enabled..

Youtube seems to remember previous settings, possibly via cookies. If you last set at 360, it'll try 360 next time, by default. Try a 1080P video, and force it to 1080P, or whatever. Hopefully, it'll remember 1080P next time E.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dC6uJDNf64

Click on the "cogged gear" at the bottom right of the menu (Where I have "HD")
Select "Quality"
What choices does it show?

Here's what I get

sindi · #471 Post by **sindi** » Sun 15 Oct 2017, 21:48

I have Pale Moon set not to accept cookies (with Youtube NOT being an exception).
I tried editing about:config and html5 stopped working which I fixed by deleting
/root/.moon* (all the settings went back to default). Only options are auto 360p.

Walter Dnes · #472 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 01:12

sindi wrote:I have Pale Moon set not to accept cookies (with Youtube NOT being an exception).
I tried editing about:config and html5 stopped working which I fixed by deleting
/root/.moon* (all the settings went back to default). Only options are auto 360p.

I apologize in advance if this sounds repetitive. What do you get when you click on the work "Quality" on the roller coaster video? Wait for any commercial to finish first, because you can't tweak them.

Here's what the Youtube menu looks like, before clicking on the word "Quality". Also, do you get all 3 versions of "Big Buck Bunny" at the HTML5 test site http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html ?

sindi · #473 Post by **sindi** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 15:05

I see ONLY auto 360p for all youtube videos.

At the html5 test site I see Big Bunny videos in webm and ogg format but not H264 (same combination as listed for FF 4).

Flash no longer works at Youtube with either of two add-ons (youtube flash video player is one). Has Google decided that Firefox cannot play it?
I have tried various versions of Flash 10, 11 and the latest gcflash for linux.

I don't know what Seamonkey identifies as - it does offer all the resolutions in html5. Palemoon is set to User Agent Mode Firefox and the only other option is Gecko..

I got notified of a PM but it is not there.

Walter Dnes · #474 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 16:29

I may have mentioned this already. In "about:config" toggle media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete to true. If that doesn't help, I don't know what can.

Walter Dnes · #475 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 16:37

sindi wrote:I got notified of a PM but it is not there.

Look carefully at the header near the top right corner of the page. If someone quotes all or part of a message you posted (like I'm doing now) you'll get numbers beside "Notifications". If someone sends you a PM, you'll get numbers beside "Notofications" and "Private messages". It's a bit confusing at first.

sindi · #476 Post by **sindi** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 17:23

Thanks for explaining that if I am quoted it emails me to notify me of a private message.
I use lynx (nongraphical) for the forum. I switched to Pale Moon to download your jpegs and access the link.
I should have been notified of a reply to my post not a PM.

I wonder if it is just Puppy Linux that works only at 360p with Pale Moon. I will drag out an XP computer test with.

sindi · #477 Post by **sindi** » Mon 16 Oct 2017, 20:14

Setting obsolete codec true did not help. Still will not play flash video.
I will attempt to download a video then play it.

Windows 7 can play youtube at 720p with Pale Moon but is jerky full screen (with a whopping 2GB RAM and my fastest laptop from 2007).

Walter Dnes · #478 Post by **Walter Dnes** » Thu 19 Oct 2017, 02:34

I mentioned this in a reply to someone else on Friday 13th. The Gentoo equivalant of a "pet" is called an "ebuild". The ebuild for downloading and installing the latest Adobe-Flash requires ">=sys-libs/glibc-2.4", i.e. glibc version 2.4 or higher. This may be a problem for Puppy linux.

tallboy · #479 Post by **tallboy** » Thu 19 Oct 2017, 04:21

Is there a different location for the flash-player lib in Gentoo? Do you have to use an ebuild to install it? If you download and unpack the flash_player_npapi_linux.i386.tar.gz, the contents can be just moved or copied into their respective folders. In Lucid 5.2.8.7, the libflashplayer.so goes to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, and the other files go to /usr/bin/, /usr/lib/ and /usr/share/, as shown in the attached /usr/ directory in the flash-player package. Depending on the distro, there may be a demand for restarting X and the WM to make things work.
My own flash-player plugin version 10-something is kept for emergencies only, so it is usually disabled.

I have switched back to my former PaleMoon 27.4.2 setup, because I have a problem in 27.5.1 with some websites with no response to mouseclicks, and no functional login window. I also had a funny problem with Youtube; no functional back and forward arrows! Impossible to replay a movie!
I am trying to find out if there are some 'self-made' modifications related to the latest version which make things go bad.

tallboy

watchdog · #480 Post by **watchdog** » Thu 19 Oct 2017, 04:27

I'll survive without the flash plugin. I seldom use it e and I use the "Ask for activate" option. In puppy one could use an old version of the flash plugin for emergency use.

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