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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 12695 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Hello peebee and all. I agree with wiak. Puppy's window manager jwm was decided 10 years ago by BarryK because it suited his needs best at the time. The WM is important, but it's still only an interface. As wiak says, the scripts and the directory organization underneath define Puppy more than any single WM. Along with the capacity for frugal install, I'd add. In the past, some very successful Puppies have used icewm, in particular tronkel's Puppy 3.02. icewm is being actively refitted / modernized. It has a very active github page here: https://github.com/bbidulock/icewm If you need a menu for it, I am offering a menu script here. Don't worry, it's not based on aemenu. But it's not an xdg-type menu either. This menu resides in a single script, so you can't lose its parts. 
For those users who are superficial , there are exactly 422 themes for it
at https://www.box-look.org/browse/cat/142/ord/latest as of this writing. Why not give it a try? My 2¢. BFN. _________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ Siempre será canción nueva... (V. Jara, Manifiesto) |
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peebee
 Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 3472 Location: Worcestershire, UK |
Version 17.10.03 Apply delta to 17.10.01 - 17.10.03 iso md5 after generation should be: 0c1dc7f77bcf44a79517122e9c7d0e6f - yelp improved - radeon firmware added to fdrv for zigbert - services disabled for mavrothal - build improved - some redundant components removed - dependencies satisfied wherever possible ('checkdeps -system' now clean except for expected items) - some new apps added I've tried to get an icon for Light in the menu but have failed miserably - I don't really want to change the .sfs build as it is shared with LxPupSc (where the icon appears no problem...) _________________  LxPup = Puppy + LXDE |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 Desktop has no icon for trash. Trash needs to have an icon on the desktop to work properly. It is the way trash is designed to work. It has no menu entry by design. I know people keep trying to make desktops with no icons, but trash has to have one to work. The trash desktop icon is the only way to put something in trash. Drag and drop to icon. Only way to get to trash options. Right click on desktop trash icon.
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belham2
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 Posts: 1535 |
Hey Bigpup, Thought you'd be interested to know you do not need a desktop icon on the desktop itself for trash to work. Same goes for savesession icon. In many of my pups, I safely ensconce them inside either the upper and/or lower tray, so they are off the desktop and never hiiden by anything I have open. And I have full functions and access to them just as if they are on the desktop. Just takes some mods to xinitrc in /root, and a few other simple changes in their commands that open them.
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
What about the right click menu? That is also a feature of the trash icon on the desktop. Your idea is good, but how is it going to work if you make the tray hide? The tray would need to be visible all the time. I like to make the added tray hide, unless you move the mouse pointer to it. If the tray is visible all the time. What real difference, is it, just to have a trash desktop icon. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 Login and Security Manager No programs listed under spot option. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 Sure seems like there are a lot of different programs offered (in the menu) to configure settings. menu>Desktop Desktop Settings JWM DeskManager Font Manager Puppy Theme Manager These two open the same program. (Pup Control) menu>Setup>Puppy Setup menu>Utility>Pup Control Panel Pup Control covers just about everything. What about having one entry for Pup Control and forget using the others with menu entries 
Run them from Pup Control. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 menu>Utility>Compton What is this suppose to do? Seems to do nothing. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 menu>Utility>Java Control Panel When clicked on get this message. So, is it really needed at this point with no Java installed? There is no get Java menu entry this message refers to.
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charlie6
 Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1208 Location: Saint-Gérard / Walloon part of Belgium |
Hi Bigpup, good...morning!
Discovered this just by clicking on it to see what could happen ... 
Once compton has been activated in the main menu (just click on the menu entry), the "displaying speed" of applications windows (example: click on the "home" icon in the menu tray bar) is "smoothed", and the outer limit of the window is a bit transparent, and somewhat shadowed. Do not know how to dectivate it another way than Restart X; or using HTop/F9 ... (Tryied to explain it with my own words...  )
Best regards, Charlie
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musher0
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 12695 Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada |
Compton is a fork of Xcompmgr.
If compton is in the jwm menu, this could mean that the shadow and transparency effects can be switched on and off, or perhaps there's access to a configuration panel. Please see the attached screen shot for an example of what a composite manager does. BFN. ~~~~~~~~~~ @Charlie6:Typing
_________________ musher0 ~~~~~~~~~~ Siempre será canción nueva... (V. Jara, Manifiesto) |
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charlie6
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1208 Location: Saint-Gérard / Walloon part of Belgium |
Hi peebee, tons of thanks for this Zesty ! as also to its contributors  !
Have ran ZestyPup-17.10.01 and now running from-delta-re-generated ZestyPup-17.10.03. Using the same pupsave file without issue. Have installed gtk-3 from PPM . As also forum member ETP's Magoo + faenza icons themes "for poor eyesight users"
see (!) here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=657335#657335 Have loaded and mounted the firefox-56 sfs ==> sound works OOTB ! ...even more ! : doing in a terminal
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what was not the case for me on Xenial; as also on Tahrpup as formely posted here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=966029#966029 Seems that Light browser is slower than Firefox to open some websites. Charlie |
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zigbert
 Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 6548 Location: Valåmoen, Norway |
Confirming radeon success. Thanks! _________________ Stardust resources |
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 menu>Business>Planner It starts with this error message.
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bigpup
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 11023 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
zestyPup 17.10.3 menu>Business>Xcalc scientific calculator When clicked on to run it. X server crashes to the prompt. Enter xwin gets back to desktop. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected |
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