A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy

[peterw]

Hi kylerickards

If no wlan (or it might be another acronym) is not showing up then we first of all need to establish that you have a wireless card.

1. In a terminal type "lspci" without the quotes. You will get about 15 lines of text. If you can do a screenshot and post it. We are looking for a line with network controller in it and we need to know the details of the device it has detected if any.

2. In a terminal type "ifconfig -a" without the quotes. Do you see a line indicating a wireless device?

3. What is the make and model of your laptop?

peterw

[kylerickards]

Hi kylerickards

If no wlan (or it might be another acronym) is not showing up then we first of all need to establish that you have a wireless card.

1. In a terminal type "lspci" without the quotes. You will get about 15 lines of text. If you can do a screenshot and post it. We are looking for a line with network controller in it and we need to know the details of the device it has detected if any.

2. In a terminal type "ifconfig -a" without the quotes. Do you see a line indicating a wireless device?

3. What is the make and model of your laptop?

peterw

Hi

Strangely I started up with an old Puppy disk and it detected the wireless and said it was using the R8180 driver?

However, booting with my PuppyTahr live cd, it says, after lspce, (I can't screen grab the entire text):

Network Controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)

After ifconfig -a, I can only see

eth0 and local loopback

So I'm not sure what to do next

My laptop is an old Advent and I can't find the exact model number? It's a netbook.

Thanks for looking at this for me.

Kyle

[peterw]

Hi kylerickards

You have an old Advent from PC world. As it so happens I have an old one that I bought for spares of e-bay years ago. I repaired it and have used it for years with Puppy and my only copy of Vista. At the moment it is bits since one of their weaknesses is the hinges which goes stiff and break. This has happened to me. Mine is an Advent 5431. The wifi card is RTL8187SE and I suspect that yours is as well. Interestingly, this number refers to a usb dongle but never mind.

I am not sure why Tahr is not recognising your wifi card, but try this.

1. Menu/Setup/Internet Connection Wizard/Wired or wireless LAN/Network Wizard/Load Module/
2. Scroll down to rtl8180 and Load it.
3. Tahr will then attempt to load a driver for your card and if it succeeds you should be good to go.
NB. I can't remember the details of what comes next and I can't check it until I put my old Advent back together again. At the moment I am waiting for some araldite to harden and then maybe I can put it back together again in a usable state.

Let us know what happens.

peterw

[kylerickards]

Hi Peterw

Thanks for the help - I have loaded that module a couple of times and no joy, I will try again.

Interestingly, I have made it dual boot with Mint and Puppy, and the wireless works fine on Mint. I'm not sure why either version of Puppy won't see it...

[peterw]

Hi kylerickards

For your information there is a web site that helps you identify your laptop. And it might also declare it in the bios data.

http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/advidx.htm

Of course you will have to explore it to identify your precise machine but from a quick look they all have the same wifi pci card.

You might like to try loading the rtl8287 driver and the others roundabout it. Until I have reassembled mine then I can't try anything.

rcrsn51 owns this topic and he might pick up on this and offer more advice. His knowledge and abilities are much better than mine.

peterw

[kylerickards]

Hi peterw

Nope, tried loading both modules but it still refuses to see the wifi aspect - odd as I know it shows up in Mint and when doing lspci... Baffled now, perhaps I will just have to cable it?

Kyle

[rcrsn51]

You will get more help if you start a new request in the Beginners section, not by adding to this thread.

[kylerickards]

Apologies, I was engaged with peterw who has been very helpful to me. I didn't realise I had to start a new thread.

Kyle

[mikeslr]

I've posted to this “Sticky

[Pelo]

mikeslr explanations are worth a translation in all languages of the Puppy World for Beginners In English speaking.
Perhaps i should be allowed to translate them to french, right here ?

[seguinvegan]

Hello. I have Precise Puppy 5.7.1. installed and almost all working on partitioned ext3 drive after changing it from ext4. My problem is that I can only get a network connection from booting from the usb install drive os. I am using it now with the usb drive key in drive, but when I reboot and take it out, and then go to the network wizard, I can't refresh to find available networks because all of the buttons are greyed out and unusable. I did get an alert that says that I did not set up my network and it is undetectable.

I started a thread at:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 4&t=109500

and I figured many whom might have pearls of wisdom would have autoreply alerts for other threads, thus posting here.

FYI, I have a windows background and am new to Puppy and am determined to make this work. My laptop is a Dell D820 Latitiude.

Thank you for your time.

[frankhatton]

My computer is in the process of loading puppy onto a flash drive so that I can install puppy onto the hard drive. It has the message Please wait, copying files from .iso file...on the desktop How long will this take? It has been 12 hours up to now.

[Semme]

Welcome Frank.

Whatever you've got going on, STOP! and try one of the methods here.

[Pelo]

semme, ISOBOOter is for Old and expert linux people.
12 hours to transfer 200mb, something is wrong.. format it again, or try another one.
Some of us use Lili Live usb creator , that was my tool, when i was a true beginner wits USBs. They are different ones, but this one works well and is nicely decorated.

[mikeslr]

Hi All,

So, you've got a Windows computer and want to install your first "Puppy". If your computer does not use the UEFI boot mechanism --now standard if your computer came with Windows 10+, probably present if it came with Windows 8+, and may be present if it came with Windows 7-- one of the easiest way is to install into Windows one of the exe files you'll find here: https://archive.org/download/Puppy_Linu ... _Installer. Thanks as77 for providing the link and, especially, ally for maintaining the archive.

Run it, and when asked, select "Frugal Install". See here why, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 423#910423.

If you're not sure which "exe" to pick, select Puppy_slacko593.exe.* Slacko593 is my 'work-horse'. It pretty much runs on any computer. If you have lots of RAM and a powerful CPU it will make use of them (within the limits of a 32-bit system); but it will provide far better performance than Windows on computers having only 512 Mbs of RAM. Time enough, later, to do some research, try out a couple Puppies which may be "better/newer" and find out which is the best Puppy for your computer. For example, look here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 186#968186. Or better yet, post to that thread providing information about your computer, see here, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 618#739618, and ask for recommendations. Posting to a thread will take it to the top of the Subforum. I know it seems odd, but to post to a thread, you click the "Reply" button. The "New Topic" button starts a new thread.

Once you have one Puppy running, it's a piece of cake to add another using the tools built into every Puppy. As mentioned in the above link regarding Frugal installs, one of their advantages is that they are run from folders/directories: they do not require an entire partition.

If you have a computer which does use the UEFI boot mechanism, you'll find on the Puppy_Linux_Windows_Installer webpage the Windows8Readme.txt. It provides simple, but very general, information. This post, and the posts it links to, will provide other possibilities and specific instructions. http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 159#858159

mikesLr

* You'll also find exe versions of Tahrpup6.0Ce (pae and Non-pae). Some computers can not access more than 4 Gb of RAM and a regular (pae) built won't run on them 'out of the box' and for some pre-2004 +/- computers, at all. Tahrpup 6.0Ce was an early build. While it did work, over the next two years various improvements were made. Currently, the last of the Tarhpup series is 6.0.5. If there had been a Tahrpup605.exe, I would have recommended it rather than Slacko593. See this post, http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 302#968302 and the posts of others on that thread.

[madscijr]

I discovered Puppy Linux around 2013, I downloaded a few versions which I mainly run off of jump drives:
* Wary Puppy 5.5
* Precise 5.7.1 retro
* Puppy Slacko 5.9.3 (which I believe came as Puppy Arcade)
* MacPup 5.5
* Puppy 5.2.8 Lucid

I haven't done any updating in some time (like 2014) but when I go to the download page
http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20L ... elease.htm
it looks as though it hasn't been updated in a couple of years.

Would someone please point me to the latest versions (ISOs) for the above flavors (if they are even still being maintained) or the equivalent? I mainly use "precise retro" and "wary".

If possible please include links or the names of the exact ISO files, because I have googled around and am finding download sites with all sorts of variants and subfolders, that are very confusing to make sense of.

Thanks and much appreciated!

[hamoudoudou]

precise 5.7.1 is quite a rolling OS if you check derivatives. Look for skamilinux team in Hungaria. US is the basic Hu is Overlaid.. But csipesz made nice improvals
Topic and mikeslr feed-back
when Puppies are born, local developers improve some stuff for locale users. Hungarian version is worth to be an offical one, if agreed by US Team

[hamoudoudou]

In puppy Linux welcoming page, Pdf for arabic users is available.
Not new, Lucid 528, but newer than many other languages, including Fr
click on arabic