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Walter Dnes

Joined: 30 Dec 2016
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Thu 19 Oct 2017, 02:12    Post subject:  

tallboy wrote:
Is there a different location for the flash-player lib in Gentoo?

Actually, I believe that Pale Moon uses a different directory than Firefox. See https://linux.palemoon.org/help/faq/#noplugins
Quote:
My plugins do not show up in Pale Moon.

Pale Moon checks for plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Some distros place the plugins in /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins. If this is the case and Pale Moon is unable to find your plugins, you can do the following to symlink to the actual plugin directory:

cd /usr/lib
mkdir mozilla
cd mozilla
ln -s ../nsbrowser/plugins plugins

If instead you need to put your plugins in a custom location, you can export MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=:...

You can also put these export statements in /etc/profile, should you need them to work for all users.


tallboy wrote:
Do you have to use an ebuild to install it? If you download and unpack the flash_player_npapi_linux.i386.tar.gz, the contents can be just moved or copied into their respective folders.

The reason I mentioned the ebiuld is that it implies ">=sys-libs/glibc-2.4" is a dependancy for the latest Flash. The glibc bundled with Lucid Puppy may not be enough.


tallboy wrote:
I have switched back to my former PaleMoon 27.4.2 setup, because I have a problem in 27.5.1 with some websites with no response to mouseclicks, and no functional login window. I also had a funny problem with Youtube; no functional back and forward arrows! Impossible to replay a movie!
I am trying to find out if there are some 'self-made' modifications related to the latest version which make things go bad.

The quick-n-dirty way to find out is to install 27.5.1 and run...

Code:
palemoon -no-remote -p

...from a terminal and create a new test profile when the profile manager dialogue comes up. Does the problem still happen in a fresh new profile? BTW are you running the official Pale Moon or a custom version or ebuild?
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tallboy


Joined: 21 Sep 2010
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Location: Oslo, Norway

PostPosted: Thu 19 Oct 2017, 15:54    Post subject:  

Walter wrote:
The quick-n-dirty way to find out is to install 27.5.1 and run...

Code:
palemoon -no-remote -p

...from a terminal and create a new test profile when the profile manager dialogue comes up. Does the problem still happen in a fresh new profile? BTW are you running the official Pale Moon or a custom version or ebuild?


Thanks for the response! I'll do some tests and come back with the results.
My Palemoons are official out-of-the-box versions, but I have made a lot of modifications in prefs.js and xulstore.json, usually by modifications in about:config.

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sindi

Joined: 16 Aug 2009
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Location: Ann Arbor MI USA

PostPosted: Fri 20 Oct 2017, 08:00    Post subject: flash player location and youtube without X  

The only file you need to play flash is libflashplayer.so itself in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
The rest is decoration or docs.

I have been able to download files from Youtube with the 'best' downloader and then play with mplayer full-screen, same
result as with smtube (360p is the max my 2004 laptop can handle with any method) but far more youtube videos are
available than with smtube. I use mplayer without X, saving memory and CPU, but 720p is still too fast for the cpu.
Google seems not to offer 480p resolution at Youtube. It never works with smtube (goes to 240p).

I do not know if movgrab can still download 480p.

Just type in the URL from lynx or links, or use splitvt to copy between terminal screens. I can play videos on a 233MHz
laptop with 96MB RAM, in low resolution.

Vidmate on an android phone has 480p.

mplayer -vo svga filename.mp4

You need an mplayer with svga support
mplayer -vo help

The 2010 version (probably comes with lupu 2016) has it.

fbdev may also work (you need a kernel that supports it - lupu2016 but not sulu, tahr)

On my laptop mplayer is automatically fullscreen but I think it varies depending on the video chip.
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Walter Dnes

Joined: 30 Dec 2016
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Tue 07 Nov 2017, 15:29    Post subject: Re: Pale Moon 27.5.0 available  

Pale Moon version 27.6.0 is available. This is a major development update. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Note that the item about enabling faster SSE2 decoding obviously does not apply to the SSE version. Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
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watchdog

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Wed 08 Nov 2017, 07:21    Post subject: The survival...
Subject description: x nostalgics
 

palemoon-27.6.0-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10IvSvvGw-y5o44F1SM2cJMsxQVDcn7fu/view?usp=sharing

palemoon-27.6.0-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kUCZ_3cjbyEvKJgtTGj4tYPtoARW8aTo/view?usp=sharing

See this previous post about installing in puppy4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=953134#953134

PS: I recommend to start with a new profile. The old profile made palemoon 27.6.0 crashing on my PC. You can copy the extensions from old profile in the new profile and you'll be asked to install again them.

EDIT:

palemoon-27.6.1-p4-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-cf_Eg3HCkqb8o_9s3ska1sGbWS-4WmO/view?usp=sharing

palemoon-27.6.1-p4-sse-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15KCRsSX2xUuLCrtaRMC5zm5ooeeKWoc2/view?usp=sharing

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keniv

Joined: 06 Oct 2009
Posts: 459
Location: Scotland

PostPosted: Wed 08 Nov 2017, 10:03    Post subject:  

@ Walter Dnes and watchdog,
Thanks for the heads up on this. I have updated my sse 32bit version. I believe this to be the best browser when using limited hardware and older style pups and it can be updated to use the latest version. Great.

Regards,

Ken.
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Walter Dnes

Joined: 30 Dec 2016
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 16:16    Post subject: Pale Moon 27.6.1 available  

Pale Moon version 27.6.1 is available. This is a minor bugfix update. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
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sindi

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Location: Ann Arbor MI USA

PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 16:32    Post subject: Setting change to play Youtube in more resolutions  

Walter Dnes just quickly fixed the problem of Youtube playing at only 360p in Palemoon with Lupu and Tahr Puppy.
We have an older libavcodec. Change the libavcodec with the string obsolete in it from false to true.
Youtube was only allowing auto (480p) on my 1GHz 2001 Pentium III.
I now see 144p (ideal for the PIII), 240p, 360p, 480p, 720p, and sometimes higher.
Smtube no longer plays many of the Youtube videos (and never at 480p - a bug?).

Seamonkey and Firefox ESR apparently do not use libavcodec and work without this setting change.

I asked if Walter could make TRUE the default setting in his SSE version (which works with puppy linux -
the official version is using or will use incompatible later libraries).
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Walter Dnes

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 18:43    Post subject:  

I don't think the developers would like having the source tweaked. But there is an official way of doing about:config overrides on a profile-by-profile basis. In your profile directory create a file called "user.js", and insert the lines...
Code:
# Mozilla User Preferences
user_pref("media.libavcodec.allow-obsolete", true);

NOTE: THE FIRST LINE IN THE FILE WILL BE IGNORED, SO INSERT A COMMENT AS FIRST LINE. Next time Pale Moon starts, this file will be read and implemented. Note that on each startup, it'll overwrite the specified sttings in about:config. Anything that shows up in about:config can be set here. E.g. my user.js includes...
Code:
# Mozilla User Preferences
user_pref("accessibility.typeaheadfind", true);
user_pref("browser.newtab.url", "about:home");
user_pref("browser.tabs.animate", false);
user_pref("canvas.poisondata", true);
user_pref("geo.enabled", false);
user_pref("media.autoplay.allowscripted", false);
user_pref("media.autoplay.enabled", false);
user_pref("places.history.enabled", false);
user_pref("layers.acceleration.force-enabled", true);

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musher0


Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Location: Gatineau (Qc), Canada

PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 18:45    Post subject:  

Thanks for the infos, everyone.

I successfully updated the Palemoon in xenialPup-7.0.6.

BFN.

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sindi

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 19:04    Post subject: profile directory  

Where is our profile directory? I see /etc/profile (which is a file).
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PostPosted: Wed 15 Nov 2017, 19:09    Post subject: Re: profile directory  

sindi wrote:
Where is our profile directory? I see /etc/profile (which is a file).

At /root/.moonchild productions/pale moon/SomeCodedFileName.default.

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