Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

[charlie6]

Hi 666philb

/usr/bin/icewm-xdgmenu is needed to convert the jwm main menu for the icewm window manager:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 032#797032

icewm-xdgmenu fails to start on Xenialpup64-7.0.8.6 kernel 4.9.58

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# icewm-xdgmenu: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64

whereas it works on Zestypup and Artfulpup with kernel 4.9.56 32 bits:

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# icewm-xdgmenu 
Creates a icewm menu from an XDG menu structure.
Usage:
  icewm-xdgmenu xdgmenufile

  xdgmenufile: Fully qualified path to the XDG menu file. This is a mandatory parameter

For example:
  icewm-xdgmenu "/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu"


to invoke it from icewm, add a menuprog entry to the menu configuration file

  menuprog Title icon icewm-xdgmenu xdgmenufile
# 

have browsed the web to find a fix without success

thanks for any help to fix this
Charlie

[musher0]

HI Charlie6.

You said :
> " have browsed the web to find a fix without success "

You looked too far!!! It was under your nose !

IHTH.

[charlie6]

HI Charlie6.
You looked too far!!! ...
IHTH.

Hi Musher0
Bonjour ou bonsoir selon le cas
Many thanks for your kind reply, but I already have installed your pet before writing the above post, without success.

Moreover, that pet needs open-office already installed (they are calls to open-office in the script), and till now, I could resist to install it.

Here have installed icewm 1.3.8 using PPM + the template file /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.icewm_menu + binary /usr/bin/icewm-xdgmenu;

On other Puppies, this procedure works straight after doing fixmenus in terminal and restart X, as explained in RSH's posts link above.

Posts on the web reports that «wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64» could be a problem of 32/64 bits compatibility
... fixing such issue is above my knowledges.

Best regards,
Charlie

last edited
I also have installed the 32bits libX11 lib without success: seems that icewm-xdgmenu does not see libX11 whatever its 32 or 64 bits version ...8

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root# ldd /usr/bin/icewm-xdgmenu 
	linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf76ea000)
	libX11.so.6 => not found
	libXpm.so.4 => not found
	libXext.so.6 => not found
	libgnome-menu.so.2 => not found
	libglib-2.0.so.0 => not found
	libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7517000)
	/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76eb000)
root#

although libgnome-menu.so.2 is present as also libXext.so.6 and libXpm.so.4 and libX11.so.6 ...???

[charlie6]

Hi,

Hi 666philb
/usr/bin/icewm-xdgmenu is needed to convert the jwm main menu for the icewm window manager:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 032#797032
...Charlie

...Yep!...got it fixed !
here is how:
1) downloaded from Ubuntu-xenial 32 bits and installed libx11-6_1.6.3-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
2) run in console:

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#ldconfig

AND WAIT till it's done !
3) as usual in RSH's post (see link in my first post above) run

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# fixmenus

and it's done here you get all jmw main menus entries in the icewm main menu

[Lassar]

Tried out the universal installer to dual boot my uefi pc, and it failed!

Wound up not being to boot windows 10.

Took most of the day to fix the boot problem.

I think the universal installer was only designed to work on mbr drives.

As more and more old computers are uefi pc's, this needs to be fixed.

[jrb]

Phil, please restore the option to select SNS instead of Frisbee.

I had the same problem so I used the SNS package out of woofCE to make this .pet

Cheers, J

[mikeslr]

Lassar +1

"Took most of the day to fix the boot problem. Recurrent problem on Beginner's Subforum.

I think the universal installer was only designed to work on mbr drives. Correct.

As more and more old computers are uefi pc's, this needs to be fixed."

Or withdrawn. As far as I know, only Grub2 can be used to boot any Puppy from the hard-drive of a UEFI computer. Rufus can be used under Windows and Unetbootin under Linux and those aware of it can use Ted Dogs "No Format Install", http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 727#818727, to create a bootable USB-Key. And Xenialpup64 sports a "UEFI-Installer --Flash Drives" on its Setup SubMenu. But to have an application install any Puppy to the hard-drive of a UEFI computer AND install a bootloader that bootloader has to be Grub2. Unfortunately, unlike our grub4dos, Grub2 does not automatically create the arguments needed to boot any Frugal Puppy, even one including the required signature. [I don't think it can boot a "Full Install" Puppy, either].

Rather than have newbies mislead into messing up their computers, if some easy way to have Puppy offer a Grub2 install can't be established, it would be better not to have a "Universal Installer".

Or, at least a clearly displayed warning that it can't be used with UEFi Computers.

mikesLr[/i]

[James C]

Lassar +1

"Took most of the day to fix the boot problem. Recurrent problem on Beginner's Subforum.

I think the universal installer was only designed to work on mbr drives. Correct.

As more and more old computers are uefi pc's, this needs to be fixed."

Or withdrawn. As far as I know, only Grub2 can be used to boot any Puppy from the hard-drive of a UEFI computer. Rufus can be used under Windows and Unetbootin under Linux and those aware of it can use Ted Dogs "No Format Install", http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 727#818727, to create a bootable USB-Key. And Xenialpup64 sports a "UEFI-Installer --Flash Drives" on its Setup SubMenu. But to have an application install any Puppy to the hard-drive of a UEFI computer AND install a bootloader that bootloader has to be Grub2. Unfortunately, unlike our grub4dos, Grub2 does not automatically create the arguments needed to boot any Frugal Puppy, even one including the required signature. [I don't think it can boot a "Full Install" Puppy, either].

Rather than have newbies mislead into messing up their computers, if some easy way to have Puppy offer a Grub2 install can't be established, it would be better not to have a "Universal Installer".

Or, at least a clearly displayed warning that it can't be used with UEFi Computers.

mikesLr[/i]

For what it's worth, three of my UEFI motherboards are happily booting Windows, Puppy, Gentoo etc, with good old Legacy Grub.

It could possibly vary according to the manufacturer of the mobo since all of mine are by Asus.

Have about 15 frugal installs on the hexacore.

[Sailor Enceladus]

Tried out the universal installer to dual boot my uefi pc, and it failed!

Wound up not being to boot windows 10.

Took most of the day to fix the boot problem.

I think the universal installer was only designed to work on mbr drives.

As more and more old computers are uefi pc's, this needs to be fixed.

I don't think 7.0.8.6 has the stuff to boot uefi, but 7.0.8.5 does, based on names of the isos. I didn't look inside though

[mikeslr]

The Xenialpup64 7.0.5-uefi.iso does contain the required efi.img. I don't have an uefi-computer, so can't tell you anything else beyond that it can be obtained here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/xenialpup/

And that it has been my primary operating system, working without issue.

mikesLr

[Lassar]

I did some research, and tried LICK 1.2.

It worked like a charm.

I now have a dual boot computer.

[bigpup]

Is there a good reason why the devx does not show in the list when you run sfsget?

Could the devx be placed in the same repository location as the other sfs packages?

Some big reason why sfsget does not have a menu entry?

devx here http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/xenialpup/
for the kernel sources type sfsget into a terminal
for 32bit compatibility libs type sfsget into a terminal

[666philb]

Xenialpup64 7.0.8.6
Frugal
Save folder.

I can live with this and have been for some time.
Just wonder why it is required in Xenialpup.

Video card Nvidia GeForce GTX 970.

Initial first boot, have to use nouveau.modeset=0 to get to visible desktop.
Here is some info on KMS
https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting/

Still trying to figure out what is the difference between a kernel that does not have a problem and one that does.
But it does involve KMS and the nouveau driver kernel module.

hi bigpup

can you try deleting /lib/modules/4.9.59/kernel/drivers/video/fbdev/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and rebooting

[666philb]

Hi 666philb

/usr/bin/icewm-xdgmenu is needed to convert the jwm main menu for the icewm window manager:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 032#797032

icewm-xdgmenu fails to start on Xenialpup64-7.0.8.6 kernel 4.9.58

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# icewm-xdgmenu: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64

whereas it works on Zestypup and Artfulpup with kernel 4.9.56 32 bits:

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# icewm-xdgmenu 
Creates a icewm menu from an XDG menu structure.
Usage:
  icewm-xdgmenu xdgmenufile

  xdgmenufile: Fully qualified path to the XDG menu file. This is a mandatory parameter

For example:
  icewm-xdgmenu "/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu"


to invoke it from icewm, add a menuprog entry to the menu configuration file

  menuprog Title icon icewm-xdgmenu xdgmenufile
# 

have browsed the web to find a fix without success

thanks for any help to fix this
Charlie

hi charlie6

xenialpup64 comes with the 64bit icewm-xdgmenu,
i installed icewm from the PPM to test , tried it and it worked for me.
looks like you installed the 32bit version overwriting xenialpup64s built in one

[bigpup]

hi bigpup

can you try deleting /lib/modules/4.9.59/kernel/drivers/video/fbdev/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and rebooting

Tried it.
Did not help.

However, the actual deletion is stored in the save.
Is that good enough or should I actually delete it from the zdrv.sfs?

[666philb]

hi bigpup

can you try deleting /lib/modules/4.9.59/kernel/drivers/video/fbdev/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko and rebooting

Tried it.
Did not help.

However, the actual deletion is stored in the save.
Is that good enough or should I actually delete it from the zdrv.sfs?

hi bigpup,

yes you could try removing it from the zdrv.sfs although the savefile is loaded before the modesetting driver kicks in.

did you try artfulpups fdrv.sfs? as it does have extra nouveau firmware in it.

if the above both fail can you PM me /var/log/messages & /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed boot.
if you can drop to a prompt just copy them to /root before rebooting.
if you have to hard poweroff they should be available in the save file accessed from another puppy.

cheers
if you can drop to a prompt just copy them to /root before rebooting.

[charlie6]

Hi 666phil,

...
hi charlie6

xenialpup64 comes with the 64bit icewm-xdgmenu,..

hmmm... Ok! that's good news !
Tons of thanks to have included it in xenialpup64 !
From now I'll check if present on every new Puppies
Best regards!
Charlie

last edited (...better late than never...isn't? ):
OK! it works now for me !
I have replaced the offending icewm-xdgenu 32-bit version with the 64-bit one copied from the puppy_xenialpup64_7.0.8.6.sfs;
Then ran in a terminal:

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root# icewm-xdgmenu "/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu"
root# fixmenus

and it was done: got the main menu as much populated as the jwm main menu.

Thanks again 666philb!

[superchook]

I am not running Xenialpup64 CE 7.0.8.6 as I type this so I may have the details wrong. I obtained the sfs package for googleearth from the PPM. The sfs is shown as loaded and there is a menu entry under internet. clicking the menu item does not appear to do anything.
Trying to start the program from a terminal does produce an error message and it appears that the startup script is failing to find a configuration file.

[mikeslr]

Hi superchook,

Regarding the configuration problem you have, if it can't be solved, you can try something else.

From experience, I can tell you that this build of google-earth-pro-7.1.8.3036_x86_64.sfs for Slacko64 works in Xenialpup64: http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... cko6414.2/.

I haven't yet tried Mike Walsh's new build for Tahrpup64, Google_Earth_Pro-7.3.0.3830-tahr-amd64.sfs, but considering that Slacko64 has less in common with Xenialpup64 than Tahrpup64, there's a good chance it will also work. You can find it here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/atlyhrd51 ... -amd64.sfs

miikesLr

[superchook]

Many thanks mikesLr both your suggested packages worked.
Attempting to start the original googleearth_amd64_patched.sfs from a terminal produced the result shown in the attached file.
cheers,
Ken