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Can't see command prompt (CLI) when X is shut down.
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frenchiveruti

Joined: 15 Feb 2017
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Nov 2017, 09:27    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
If you do a normal bootup.
Use PPM(Puppy Package Manager) uninstall to uninstall the Nvidia driver.
Reboot.
Should be using the supplied Nouveau driver that comes with Puppy.

Go get the newer Nvidia driver run package and install it.

Sadly I installed the Nvidia driver from that same provided ".run" file, so I can't really "uninstall" from PPM Sad
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Nov 2017, 08:25    Post subject:  

OK try this:
Bootup.
Use Pfind.
Do a search for Nvidia.
Delete in Rox file manager all that Pfind finds.
Reboot.

That should make it boot not using the Nvidia driver.

Getnvidia program is a good way to install the driver.
Along with installing the driver. It also gives option to make a pet and or a sfs package of the driver.

this explains how to use Getnvidia program and link for program download.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=110611

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frenchiveruti

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov 2017, 15:09    Post subject:  

Yeah my issue with GetNvidia (as great as it is) is that disables Nouveau (that needs to be disabled in order to install Nvidia Driver) and then closes X, but when it closes X it happens the issue with the CLI that isn't visible, so I can't install Nvidia. And the Drivers and the entire puppy goes nuts like this:


I thank you a lot for the help, but I think is a major issue than the one I can grasp on.

I'll leave this here in case someone someday runs into the same problem.
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theru

Joined: 23 Jul 2015
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Location: Heers, Belgium

PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov 2017, 18:40    Post subject:  

Let's see if I get this right:

- The problem happens with an older nvidia driver, not with the latest version or another driver.
- You want to update to the latest version but you can't because of this problem.

First thing to try is using the bootmanager to temporarily blacklist the nvidia driver and reboot. Puppy will most likely fall back to the standard vesa driver. If this makes the console usable again you can use xorgwizard to switch to a driver that at least allows you to use tools like getnvidia.

If blacklisting the nvidia driver does mess up the boot process you can undo the blacklist by going to /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG and change the SKIPLIST entry.

It also doesn't happen on first boot. This is good news because I have experimented with a way to avoid using nouveau on first boot allowing you to install and test nvidia without needing to reboot.

- Boot without a savefile and with the option nouveau.modeset=0
- After bootup type the command rmmod nouveau

The first command still loads the nouveau module but doesn't actually use it allowing it to be unloaded with the rmmod command. The latter is important because otherwise the nvidia installer will complain and abort the installation.

Once you have done these 2 things you can use sfs load to load the devx and the kernel sources. Once that's done you should be able to run getnvidia to build the nvidia driver and, more importantly, the pet file and sfs module.

When you've done that and verified that the new nvidia driver works correctly you should be able to reboot with your savefile and replace the existing driver.

If you had no problems with an older driver it may help checking the archive: http://www.nvidia.com/drivers/beta

As for your icons problem you may be able to solve it by replacing /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/globicons with the one from your puppy sfs file.
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