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#381 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Hi backi,

I think your USB would be root (hd1,0) if have an sda too, or maybe root (hd2,0) if you have HDD and CD drive?

Not sure what you mean by copying to / root though. I think your current menu.lst will look in /artfulpup folder in sda1.

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#382 Post by peebee »

backi wrote:kernel /artfulpup/vmlinuz pupsubdir=artfulpup pmedia=usbflash
What am i doing wrong?
Should be psubdir
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#383 Post by backi »

Hi Sailor !
Not sure what you mean by copying to / root though.
It means instead copying extracted Contents of the Iso into (Sub) Folder named artfulpup on my Usb-Stick .......placing the content just on the ext4 partition (root?) of sdb1(my Usb-Stick) outside a Folder.......and my menu.lst looks like this:

title Puppy artfulpup (sdb1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz pupsubdir= pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck,nocopy
initrd /initrd.gz

it does boot .
But not from a Folder.

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#384 Post by backi »

Hi PeeBee !

psubdir also does not help .

Could maybe someone ,who is booting successfully artfulpup from Folder on Usb-Stick , give me his menu.lst Entry as a working Example ?

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booting Artful

#385 Post by sheldonisaac »

backi wrote:psubdir also does not help .

Could maybe someone ,who is booting successfully artfulpup from Folder on Usb-Stick , give me his menu.lst Entry as a working Example ?
I'll try, and will edit this post.
Is this the one?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/zestyp ... o/download
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Using this Dell E6410 under musher0's Xenial 7.07, I used gparted to reformat an Emtec 16GB USB flash drive to ext4 and set the boot flag.
Then copied files from the Artful iso to the flash drive.
Used grub4config on the flash drive.
Rebooted from the flash drive.
It booted Artful.
Here is the directory:

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 ls -la /mnt/sdc1/
total 254700
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root      4096 Nov 26  2017 .
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root        80 Nov 25 15:42 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  21594112 Nov  1 19:38 adrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  18067456 Nov  1 19:38 fdrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root    220049 Nov 26  2017 grldr
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2281149 Nov  1 19:34 initrd.gz
drwx------  2 root root     16384 Nov 26  2017 lost+found
-rw-r--r--  1 root root      2652 Nov 26  2017 menu.lst
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 189218816 Nov  1 19:45 puppy_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     32256 Nov 26  2017 sdc_mbr.bak
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   5489216 Oct 31 22:13 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     32768 Nov  1 19:38 ydrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  23842816 Nov  1 00:06 zdrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
Here is menu.lst, only the relevant parts:

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# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.2
timeout 10
default 0
# Frugal installed Puppy
title Puppy artfulpup 17.11 (sdc1)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz
Last edited by sheldonisaac on Sat 25 Nov 2017, 20:53, edited 1 time in total.
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#386 Post by backi »

Yes sheldonisaac !
Thanks !

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#387 Post by bigpup »

What boot loader you using?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#388 Post by backi »

Hi sheldonisaac !

No luck with your Tip .
When using Grub4dos ----artfulpup is even not recognized from Grub4Dos when inside a folder .
means not shown when put into a Folder .

I cant exactly remember ,there was awhile ago some Discussion because someone could not boot Xenialpup (as far as i remember) when putting it in a Folder but boots when placed on root.
When using Tahrpup 6.0.6 ( which i have installed also to this Usb-Stick) it won`t boot from a Folder....just from / ----- ....while Tahrpup 6.0.5 does boot when copied inside a Folder.

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booting

#389 Post by sheldonisaac »

backi (in part) wrote:Hi sheldonisaac !
No luck with your Tip .
When using Grub4dos ----artfulpup is even not recognized from Grub4Dos when inside a folder.
OH, I will put the artful files into a folder, and then try booting.
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It boots.

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# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.2
timeout 4
default 0
# Frugal installed Puppy
title Puppy artfulpup 17.11 (sdc1/artful)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /artful/initrd.gz
  kernel /artful/vmlinuz psubdir=artful pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /artful/initrd.gz
This time I did make a save folder when rebooting:

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ls -lt /mnt/home/
total 244
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root     37 Nov 25 17:07 fsckme.flg
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   4096 Nov 25 17:05 artful
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    292 Nov 25 17:04 menu.lst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 220049 Nov 25 16:58 grldr
drwx------ 2 root root  16384 Nov 25 15:22 lost+found

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ls -lt /mnt/home/artful/
total 254684
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root      4096 Nov 25 17:06 artfulpupsave-nov25
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     32256 Nov 25 15:29 sdc_mbr.bak
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    220049 Nov 25 15:29 grldr
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root      2652 Nov 25 15:29 menu.lst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 189218816 Nov  1 07:45 puppy_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  21594112 Nov  1 07:38 adrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  18067456 Nov  1 07:38 fdrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     32768 Nov  1 07:38 ydrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2281149 Nov  1 07:34 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  23842816 Oct 31 12:06 zdrv_artfulpup_17.11.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   5489216 Oct 31 10:13 vmlinuz
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Artful Pup 17.11+3

#390 Post by sszindian »

First off, Artful is a really nice 32-bit program!!!

I ran it through my usual bunch of tests and it performs really well and graphics are exceptional with videos, on-line movies etc.

I did encounter one problem... I updated the PPM and all program entries went totally BLANK. There was then no function on the update-icon so couldn't try another up-date. PPM is now without ANY entries in it.

The uninstall works (as far as listing my added programs but I didn't try to delete any of them.)

I might add that prior to doing the update the 'category' entries did not function to individual areas when clicked on, the only thing that moved (up an down) was the slider-bar

Running with: Live CD, savefile on HDD

>>>---Indian------>

EDIT: 11/26/2017 - Tried loading without the savefile (pfix=ram)... PPM works as it should so the problem appears to be related to my savefile and NOT Artful Pup 17.11+3 version... is there a way to get it back? or do I have to start over?
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how to add repositories in PPM

#391 Post by hamoudoudou »

how to add repositories in PPM
About PPM itself , mine works as it has to work, excepted the famous missing icons, an that is really ennoying..how can you do without them..
Missing in the menu, in the PPM.. Happy who can read the text beside, they can do without icon..
Menu can be translated in your native language, that can help barbarians to do whithout icons;but PPM is only official Linux description, which for most of barbarians does not mean anything.
Of course how to add repositories in PPM is of great interest for Ubuntu (now Debian) apps. Strecth PPM if far more featured tnan xenial one, but less than Xenialdog synaptic.
/etc/apt/sources.list to complete if you install synaptic
What we suggest is to Help Puppy Linux not be a vintage OS, just good for old fashioned process training, compared with Dogs and Live CDs.
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#392 Post by backi »

Thanks sheldonisaac and the other guys for Support .
Now got artfulpup booting from Folder ! :lol: :lol:

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Underdog distro is back! At last!

#393 Post by 01101001b »

I write this because I want to really thank for this project. It's still a little unstable in my system (have to reinstall three times so far but I manage) but especially I want to thank for the Underdog feature.
At last! I was looking for that feature for some time now. I know it's a tool almost "vintage" but I'm relatively new to Puppy and when I realized its existence, in the versions I used since, that feature was a missing jewel, 'til now.
Thanks so much!

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#394 Post by peebee »

Update +5 changes ffmpeg to 3.4
ImageLxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64

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Nice to inform on sourceforge !

#395 Post by hamoudoudou »

27-nov-2017 - 17.11+5 - ffmpeg-3.4 25-nov-2017 - 17.11+4 - PPM database updates 08-nov-2017 - 17.11+3 - openssl update 05-nov-2017 - 17.11+2 - replace cryptsetup with static version from initrd 03-nov-2017 - 17.11+1 - adds cryptsetup; fixes cpu temp in tray 01-nov-2017 - ArtfulPup-17.11 uploaded Howto: - download .delta and put into same directory as base .iso - click on .delta to generate new .iso - check md5 sumcheck of new .iso against *.iso.md5.txt file contents - click on new .iso to open it - copy updated files (usually just puppy*.sfs) to frugal install directory - close new .iso by clicking on it - reboot

Nice : information on sourceforge ! Italian are coming to Puppy Linux..
Is you consider Europe, old Europe is 3500 downloads . Did they succeed install ArtfulPup ? Few speak English.. :?: (excepted UK, of course)
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PPM

#396 Post by sszindian »

In my previous post I inserted an EDIT... possibly it wasn't noticed?

EDIT: 11/26/2017 - Tried loading without the savefile (pfix=ram)... PPM works as it should so the problem appears to be related to my savefile and NOT Artful Pup 17.11+3 version... is there a way to get it back? or do I have to start over? (talking about ALL PPM entries here, they went south :cry: )

>>>---Indian------>
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Re: PPM

#397 Post by peebee »

sszindian wrote:is there a way to get it back?
>>>---Indian------>
Hard to know without knowing whats been deleted....

In another system:

Compare the hidden directory /root/.packages in your savefolder with the same directory in the puppy.sfs in the .iso - are there any .wh (whiteout) files? If there are try deleting them from the savefolder....
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#398 Post by peebee »

Update +6 - pMusic-5.6.1 + Ubuntu updates
ImageLxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64

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#399 Post by peebee »

Update +7 - ffconvert critical bug fix thanks to @radky
ImageLxPup = Puppy + LXDE
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feedback

#400 Post by foxpup »

Hello peebee

I installed artfulpup 17.11 frugally on the ssd of an uefi 64bit computer. It boots. The 'trick' is to chainload grub2 from refind and to boot artfulpup then from grub2. Not all versions from grub2 can boot 32bit distro on a 64bit uefi. I found that the grub binaries from puppy/fatdog can, but not grub2 from fedora or clonezilla.

I just had to throw in iwlwifi-7265D-26.ucode and iwlwifi-7265-26.ucode for wifi. Probably just one of these is needed. SNS works alright and I have automatic connection on reboot with it.
Everything I tried works so far.

It is a lovely build you did again, peebee! Thanks! You are a wizard! Too bad support already ends in 2018.

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