http://www.basilisk-browser.org/
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewforum.php?f=61
An experimental browser being developed by the same people who gave us Pale Moon. Mostly intended as a test bed to further develop and support the XUL platform, which Mozilla abandoned earlier with the release of FF57. So not a replacement for Pale Moon, however, its performance is simply too good to ignore.
Firefox 55 base, but heavily modified by the Pale Moon devs. Doesn't need Pulseaudio. Just drop LibGTK3 in and you're good to go. Excellent performance under Tahrpup 605/606. Haven't tested other puppies. Only 64-bit available for Linux, however, source code freely available, if somebody wants to try compiling for 32-bit (hint hint, nudge nudge).
You likey?
How about Basilisk (experimental) browser?
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technosaurus
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This message is just to announce that an unofficial 32-bit build of the Basilisk web browser is now available. Relevant thread with download links here:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 2&start=40
32-bit Basilisk for Linux is called Serpent. Since the build is an unofficial 3rd party one, branding and logos were changed to stay in line with the Basilisk author's license agreement.
So far tested with great success on Xenialpup 7.5 32-bit. Works well. Needs LibGTK3, same as its 64-bit big brother.
Currently 2018.12.05 is the latest build.
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 2&start=40
32-bit Basilisk for Linux is called Serpent. Since the build is an unofficial 3rd party one, branding and logos were changed to stay in line with the Basilisk author's license agreement.
So far tested with great success on Xenialpup 7.5 32-bit. Works well. Needs LibGTK3, same as its 64-bit big brother.
Currently 2018.12.05 is the latest build.
Basilik was the code-name for next-generation Palemoon.
Since version 28, Palemoon releases are now based off Basilik codebase.
Since version 28, Palemoon releases are now based off Basilik codebase.
Fatdog64 forum links: [url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=117546]Latest version[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/ke8sn5H]Contributed packages[/url] | [url=https://cutt.ly/se8scrb]ISO builder[/url]
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Mike Walsh
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Hm.
No sign of DRM playback (so no NetFlix).....although I see they have at least got the Import Wizard fixed. It never did work properly under Firefox.
It also doesn't appear to suffer from the problem many Mozilla-based browsers have when playing my music from Radiotunes.com. So often, a red banner comes up at the top telling me that 'Oops! It would appear that your browser does not support playback of mp3 and m4a codecs. Please try another browser....'
So; full marks to the team for that, if nothing else.
Would still like to see DRM playback included. Firefox 55 has it as standard, so why doesn't this?
Ah, well. Can't have everything, I suppose. Youtube plays back fine, so there's no issues there.....but I do like my NetFlix!!!
9/10 from me. Posting from it now. Another decent alternative.
Mike.
No sign of DRM playback (so no NetFlix).....although I see they have at least got the Import Wizard fixed. It never did work properly under Firefox.
It also doesn't appear to suffer from the problem many Mozilla-based browsers have when playing my music from Radiotunes.com. So often, a red banner comes up at the top telling me that 'Oops! It would appear that your browser does not support playback of mp3 and m4a codecs. Please try another browser....'
So; full marks to the team for that, if nothing else.
Would still like to see DRM playback included. Firefox 55 has it as standard, so why doesn't this?
Ah, well. Can't have everything, I suppose. Youtube plays back fine, so there's no issues there.....but I do like my NetFlix!!!
9/10 from me. Posting from it now. Another decent alternative.
Mike.
Last edited by Mike Walsh on Sat 08 Dec 2018, 22:23, edited 1 time in total.
Hi Mike,
Were you able to get the 32-bit Basilisk to run under Slacko 5.xx? I get a "Missing glibc.so.6 version 17 --or something like that" error I haven't been able to solve. But was trying to run it as an "external". Pfind located the missing file(s) in the /lib/palemoon folder. So it probably would run if installed --but not if palemoon wasn't.
another* Mike
* seems there's about six of us now.
Were you able to get the 32-bit Basilisk to run under Slacko 5.xx? I get a "Missing glibc.so.6 version 17 --or something like that" error I haven't been able to solve. But was trying to run it as an "external". Pfind located the missing file(s) in the /lib/palemoon folder. So it probably would run if installed --but not if palemoon wasn't.
another* Mike
* seems there's about six of us now.
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a_salty_dogg
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Posting from it now in Tahr 6.06.
Yes backi, Add-ons do seem very hit-and-miss; the current versions of Ublock Origin and Ghostery install fine, which is great news, a huge improvement on Palemoon, but there doesn't seem to be any version of Video DownloadHelper or Hoxx which is compatible with it, let alone a recent one!
Also it's a nice touch that the first run creates two new sub-folders inside ".moonchild productions", so it's a simple matter of copying over all personal and config settings from Palemoon's "randomly named folder" to Basilisk's one.
Thanks to Null_ID for letting us know about it; well worth keeping an eye on that linked thread!
Yes backi, Add-ons do seem very hit-and-miss; the current versions of Ublock Origin and Ghostery install fine, which is great news, a huge improvement on Palemoon, but there doesn't seem to be any version of Video DownloadHelper or Hoxx which is compatible with it, let alone a recent one!
Also it's a nice touch that the first run creates two new sub-folders inside ".moonchild productions", so it's a simple matter of copying over all personal and config settings from Palemoon's "randomly named folder" to Basilisk's one.
Thanks to Null_ID for letting us know about it; well worth keeping an eye on that linked thread!
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Mike Walsh
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@ Mike:-mikeslr wrote:Hi Mike,
Were you able to get the 32-bit Basilisk to run under Slacko 5.xx? I get a "Missing glibc.so.6 version 17 --or something like that" error I haven't been able to solve. But was trying to run it as an "external". Pfind located the missing file(s) in the /lib/palemoon folder. So it probably would run if installed --but not if palemoon wasn't.
another* Mike
* seems there's about six of us now.
Couldn't get it running under any of the 5-series Pups at all. I have an 'upgraded' libstdc++.so.6 in most of 'em, courtesy of watchdog (-ex Debian 'Wheezy'; the LosslessCut Electron-based video trimmer that I use needed it), but it appears to want an even newer version, matching Xenial's glibc 2.23.....570's only 2.15, of course. So, no; it won't work in 570/571 etc, I'm afraid. Which is annoying, 'cos Quantum will run on there; why an older code-base should want a newer version beats me..!
MW
While Basilisk was forked from a series 50 Firefox, the Palemoon/Basilisk dev team have since done substantial code changes and improvements to it, and as such the projects are no longer 1:1 compatible and cannot be compared. The whole ethos of the Palemoon team is that they wish to improve and evolve, and stay at the top of the latest developments, and not be held back by old tech. In that light, it makes sense that they would wish to compile against newer libraries.Mike Walsh wrote:Quantum will run on there; why an older code-base should want a newer version beats me..!
Consider also that the 32-bit build is an unofficial 3rd party job. The person creating them will make his own decisions about what he wishes to support. The rest of us can either take it or leave it, since he does this on his own time, for his own needs, and owes us nothing. Maybe get in touch with him @ the Palemoon forums and ask if it'd be possible to downgrade the library requirements a bit?
As for DRM support, there was a recent discussion at the Palemoon forums, where Moonchild, the head dev mentioned that Google's Widevine team doesn't seem to wish to acknowledge their requests for support for the Basilisk browser, and that Mozilla has recently restricted their ability to pull updates from them, making DRM support for Basilisk a tricky issue at this time.
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=20585
I'm sorry to hear that the Basilisk experience is not perfect for some of you. I, however, feel that it's important to spread awareness of all Puppy-friendly browser options, especially on the 32-bit field, because as we're now seeing, support for the 32-bit architectures is wearing thin slowly but surely. Some day, we'll simply have to learn to let go.
Serpent, the unofficial 32-bit build of Basilisk for Linux has been updated to a December 18th -2018 build, now the latest:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p158790
Thanks to adesh of the Pale Moon forums for letting us have it.
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p158790
Thanks to adesh of the Pale Moon forums for letting us have it.
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oui
I repeat my question in the parellel thread:
why? benefits? emails? irc? html edition?
so very difficult to explain it?
divers aggressors did make, that the effective standard browser of Puppy, initially, very soon, the legendary MOZILLA Suite, later the following successor SEAMONKEY, did be from time to time for other, being rarely an equivalent suite (no IRC, no email client, no HTML editor) excepted in the first years (tests with the old Opera suite)
being only a unique test is no problem: the user can abandon the new puppy version with the test and become at the next time a puppy with the accustomed figures. but it is more than a test, puppy grows in unacceptable manner, and become fast an elephantical puppy because the old "puppyist" only can install his old "puppy browser" over the invader,
an invader where nobody can really answer so simply questions:
why? benefits? emails? irc? html edition?
please, developpers, we are happy to get new dotpets and new dotsfs but we wish a real
continuity
in Puppy!
why? benefits? emails? irc? html edition?
so very difficult to explain it?
divers aggressors did make, that the effective standard browser of Puppy, initially, very soon, the legendary MOZILLA Suite, later the following successor SEAMONKEY, did be from time to time for other, being rarely an equivalent suite (no IRC, no email client, no HTML editor) excepted in the first years (tests with the old Opera suite)
being only a unique test is no problem: the user can abandon the new puppy version with the test and become at the next time a puppy with the accustomed figures. but it is more than a test, puppy grows in unacceptable manner, and become fast an elephantical puppy because the old "puppyist" only can install his old "puppy browser" over the invader,
an invader where nobody can really answer so simply questions:
why? benefits? emails? irc? html edition?
please, developpers, we are happy to get new dotpets and new dotsfs but we wish a real
continuity
in Puppy!
Quote from "Moonchild", the Pale Moon guru:
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=20515
For a lot of people, that probably ends consideration of Basilisk right then and there.Basilisk will likely not get language packs for it. It's just not within its scope of development.
https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=20515