USB-Mouse not working in Slacko 6.3 after HD install

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#81 Post by greengeek »

Thanks Rimatheou - that confirms that the missing mouse is not caused by overflowing the RAM - the HDD boot uses less RAM than the USB boot (not what I expected...).

I reckon Slacko would have been a good puppy to use on that laptop - but if you need to boot from HDD then I think you will have to move away from Slacko as I think Slackos have some sort of hardware timing issue when trying to detect usb mice during boot (something I have experienced intermittently on my Slacko installs).

Now that you have got usb multi-boot sorted I think you may have to be adventurous and try a whole bunch of different puppies - look for a puppy modern enough to have a kernel that supports your hardware (trial and error) but old enough to be small and easy on RAM.

There is one other thing that is critical in order to make the most of your tiny RAM - you should set up a swap partition of approx 2GB if possible. Make this partition on HDD if possible - but if you are unable to use HDD for swap then make a fast usb stick with one big swap partition and plug it in as soon as the bootloader starts loading puppy.

There are lots of possible puppies that might be ok for your machine but here are a few options to try:
(set up the swap partition first...)


Saluki NOP
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4628b33b55
download:
http://download.tuxfamily.org/nop/

Quirky/Racy 5.5
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 113#689113
Download:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/racy-5.5/

Wary mediaplayer edition
http://45.33.15.200/puppy/viewtopic.php ... 317783ce10
Download:
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/Wary/Cu ... layers.iso

Unicornpup
http://45.33.15.200/puppy/viewtopic.php ... 317783ce10
Download:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2071hgqycf1o ... iZxHa?dl=0
(Marv said "In summary, it's just as at home on a thoroughly modern Intel based motherboard as it is on the 2004 era Pentium M laptop"
http://45.33.15.200/puppy/viewtopic.php ... e10#817096

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#82 Post by rimatheou »

@ bigpup

Before I installed Puppy to HD, I made the HD completely new: I made two primary partitions (os1 and os2), one extended with one logical (data) and a swap partition (512MB). The first primary partition (sda1) was newly formatted in ext3. This is where Puppy is installed to. I now made a file system check with gparted, but no errors were found.

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#83 Post by rimatheou »

@greengeek

Swap Partition is now 2,5GB.

Racy Puppy HD install: mouse is not working, but it is working booting from USB. No wlan interface detected, but booting from USB two wireless networks were found.

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#84 Post by rimatheou »

@ bigpup

There is no on/off switch for wireless. I have Fn+F9 for switching on/off, but this is a windows command. The jvc laptop is in the same room as the router. There is a Xubuntu Laptop besides the jvc, that is connected via wlan.
Step 4: Select Scan and your ESSID should come up.
My ESSID didn't come up. I see two wireless networks, but not mine. => Booted from usb Slacko5.6. The wlan led is not lightening.

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#85 Post by ally »

is the router wpa2

had a similar trouble on an older machine that could only see wep

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#86 Post by mikeslr »

You might want to try Carolina 1.2, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 241#656241 a continuation of Saluki after jemimah, its dev, left. I'm not sure your computer would be able to manage the newer glibcs of 1.3. Something to try later. These OSes are forks of Racy.

Although the ISOs of Saluki and Carolina are large, these are very modular OSes. The ISO contain an adrv_sfs which contain all 'user' applications, except for geany and another small application. If you move the adrv_sfs into a folder where it won't be found on bootup --or even delete it-- they will still boot to desktop using little RAM, and having builtin applications to access their Repos so that you can install pets, create SFSes and built your own custom adrv.

You might also want to try frisbee as wifi manager. I've found that on some puppy-hardware-combinations frisbee will find networks when SNS can't, and vice-versa. Others have also had similar experiences. It's one of the reasons both are included.

mikesLr

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#87 Post by rimatheou »

ally wrote:is the router wpa2
yes, it is.

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#88 Post by greengeek »

rimatheou wrote:The jvc laptop is in the same room as the router. There is a Xubuntu Laptop besides the jvc, that is connected via wlan.

My ESSID didn't come up. I see two wireless networks, but not mine.
With regard to the laptop not seeing your wlan I would suggest the following options:

- Try turning off the xubuntu laptop while you boot the JVC in case there is some interference.

- Try temporarily changing the security setting in your router. Most routers will let you select open, WEP or possibly also old style WPA.

- Are you able to borrow a USB type wifi adapter to plug in to the JVC? Or maybe a pcmcia cardbus style wifi adapter? (as far as I can tell your JVC does have a cardbus slot). It would be interesting to know if a different wifi interface had the same issue with not seeing your network.

Is there anything unusual about your router settings? eg set for hidden ESSID or something like that?

Do these links match your JVC specs?

http://www.small-laptops.com/jvc-mp-xv8 ... mini-note/

http://salestores.com/jvcmpxv8.html

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#89 Post by bigpup »

There is no on/off switch for wireless. I have Fn+F9 for switching on/off,
Have you tried them anyway?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#90 Post by rimatheou »

bigpup wrote:
There is no on/off switch for wireless. I have Fn+F9 for switching on/off,
Have you tried them anyway?
Of course, I did.

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#91 Post by rimatheou »

This is what I see in the client logbook (router menu):

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[...]
ip=192.168.2.106   mac=00-80-88-03-0E-3B   name=puppypc18902
[...]
hmmm... Puppy is known to the router, but the SSID is not known to Puppy (when I boot from USB).

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#92 Post by rimatheou »

@ mikeslr
Carolina with xfce needs
a bit more ram and cpu than the standard ROX/Jwm puppy - probably at least 512MB of ram and 1GHz CPU for decent performance.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 241#656241
That's too much!

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#93 Post by rimatheou »

Unicorn 6.0

Booting from USB:
- both the mouse and the trackpoint stick are not working, either after mouse/keyboard setup.
- SNS detects no interface, neither eth0 nor wlan0.

HD install: I spare myself

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#94 Post by slavvo67 »

I also have ongoing mouse problems (non-wireless). For me, it's in RU Xerus (quirky) and usually happens when I am push the computer's resources ....

such as when I'm using WoofQ to build.....

Sometimes, plugging into a new port works, sometimes it doesn't. I use a 4 port USB extension, which may be part of the issue. Still, I think there's something deeper going on here; Woof code or maybe a generic driver that's older than the hills.

I'm going to try to dig into this deeper in RU Xerus. We'll see...

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#95 Post by greengeek »

Hi Rimatheou, were you relatively happy with the mouse performance of the last Lupu you tried?

If I read your results correctly Lupu seemed ok except not good at detecting wireless networks. I think it would be good to look at the wifi problems more closely using Lupu.

Bigpup suggested some Network Wizard troubleshooting steps here and that would be one of the possible ways for us to collect information.

There are also other tools that will let us work out what puppy sees when it looks for your wifi. Is it worth focussing on Lupu now or do you still want recommendations for other puppies to try? (the larger swap partition should open up the opportunity to try some other puppies if you want).

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#96 Post by rimatheou »

Hi Greengeek, I decided to use lupu 528. Mouse perfomance is good. Now I go through the steps Bigpup wrote. After step 3 (Select Wireless in the Configure wireless network box) I get this message:

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Note: The interface you have slected uses the prism2_usb module, which is not included in our list of modules supporting WPA encryption.

However, if you know for a fact that it does support WPA, or wish to test if it does [...], click the 'Add To list' button. This will add the module to a configuration file for future use.
I clicked on 'Add to List'. Then prism2_usb was added to the configuration file /etc/network-wizard/wpa_modules and the wpa supplicant driver wext was also added.
I continued with step 4 (Scan...) => no wireless networks were found.
Switching encryption to WEP in the router menu => no networks were detected.
Switching to no encryption => no networks were detected.

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#97 Post by greengeek »

I wonder if the module being loaded by Lupu is faulty.

Your post here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 251#979251 shows that Slacko 5.6 identified your wlan hardware as a usb device with id of 04f1:3009 which is made by the Victor Company of Japan, Ltd and is known as a MP-XP7250 WLAN Adapter. (also see P2 of the pdf I link below)

Your post above says that the driver module (prism2_usb) being loaded for that adapter does not have WPA capability.

This pdf: http://www.iwaniwanowitsch.net/Home/Inf ... %20usb.pdf has more info and says the same thing - that the prism2_usb driver lacks WPA support. This implies that your wifi network is wpa and that is why it is not beeing seen.

That pdf suggests that there may be other ways to blacklist prism2_usb and use a different driver module. I have never used blacklisting so i can't help you achieve that. The next question is what alternative module might support WPA on that hardware?

I do have a suggestion - could you boot Slacko again and enter the command:

lsmod

so that we can confirm what module Slacko was loading to that card.

(maybe post the Lupu output of lsmod also?)

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#98 Post by rimatheou »

lsmod from Slacko5.6

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Module                  Size  Used by
nls_cp850               3714  0 
sis                     3701  1 
sisfb                 177990  2 sis
drm                   138414  2 sis
snd_intel8x0m           8068  5 
snd_trident            22750  0 
snd_ac97_codec         76611  2 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
snd_util_mem            1484  1 snd_trident
snd_mpu401_uart         3920  1 snd_trident
snd_pcm_oss            26791  0 
snd_mixer_oss           9732  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                47637  6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ac97_codec,snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
snd_page_alloc          4714  3 snd_pcm,snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
gameport                5105  2 snd_trident
snd_seq_dummy            916  0 
snd_seq_oss            18988  0 
pcspkr                  1236  0 
snd_seq_midi            3217  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      3589  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            12106  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                32274  6 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi
firewire_ohci          22239  0 
firewire_core          34794  1 firewire_ohci
snd_timer              11582  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          3517  5 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi
snd                    34138  20 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ac97_codec,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss,snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
shpchp                 17978  0 
soundcore               3243  1 snd
ac97_bus                 707  1 snd_ac97_codec
sis900                 14083  0 
battery                 8789  0 
i2c_sis630              3200  0 
i2c_core               12576  2 drm,i2c_sis630
sis_agp                 2970  1 
agpgart                17718  2 drm,sis_agp
fan                     1719  0 
thermal                 6128  0 
evdev                   6399  0 
acpi_cpufreq            4274  0 
mperf                    796  1 acpi_cpufreq
asus_laptop            13347  0 
processor              22544  1 acpi_cpufreq
sparse_keymap           1929  1 asus_laptop
input_polldev           1747  1 asus_laptop
thermal_sys             9583  3 fan,thermal,processor
button                  3351  0 
ac                      2356  0 
hwmon                    874  1 thermal_sys
rfkill                 10038  1 asus_laptop
fuse                   47659  0 
aufs                  122975  41 
squashfs               18738  1 
yenta_socket           15841  0 


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#99 Post by rimatheou »

lsmod from lupu528

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Module                  Size  Used by
drm                   106327  0 
snd_trident            22686  0 
snd_util_mem            1464  1 snd_trident
snd_mpu401_uart         3899  1 snd_trident
prism2_usb            144361  0 
gameport                5717  2 snd_trident
snd_seq_dummy            907  0 
snd_intel8x0m           7948  5 
snd_ac97_codec         75789  2 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
ac97_bus                 686  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_oss            18888  0 
snd_pcm_oss            26845  0 
snd_seq_midi            3156  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      3592  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_mixer_oss           9963  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                45385  6 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_rawmidi            11924  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_page_alloc          4645  3 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm
snd_seq                32379  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          3601  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_timer              11986  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
ohci1394               20716  0 
snd                    30859  20 snd_trident,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
ieee1394               50116  1 ohci1394
soundcore               3403  1 snd
fan                     2478  0 
sis_agp                 3121  1 
i2c_sis630              3358  0 
agpgart                18904  2 drm,sis_agp
pcspkr                  1179  0 
i2c_core               11497  2 drm,i2c_sis630
sis900                 13650  0 
mii                     2650  1 sis900
battery                 7164  0 
serio_raw               2928  0 
shpchp                 21148  0 
thermal                 9263  0 
pci_hotplug            18286  1 shpchp
fbcon                  27736  0 
bitblit                 3514  1 fbcon
softcursor               805  1 bitblit
tileblit                1509  1 fbcon
font                    6916  1 fbcon
sg                     19093  0 
evdev                   5517  0 
button                  3522  0 
asus_laptop            10846  0 
led_class               1733  1 asus_laptop
processor              24987  0 
ac                      2143  0 
fuse                   42549  0 
aufs                  110466  1 
nls_iso8859_1           2937  0 
nls_cp437               4465  0 
usbhid                 18009  0 
usb_storage            29717  1 
squashfs               15984  1 
ohci_hcd               16937  0 
ssb                    29373  1 ohci_hcd
ehci_hcd               25830  0 
usbcore                91279  6 prism2_usb,usbhid,usb_storage,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd
yenta_socket           16079  2 
rsrc_nonstatic          6693  1 yenta_socket


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#100 Post by greengeek »

Thanks - I was hoping to be able to spot which driver module Slacko is using for your wifi but it is not jumping out at me. Could you post the output of the following command when running Slacko?

readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver

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