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Windows PortableApps under WINE
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jan 2018, 13:54    Post subject:  Windows PortableApps under WINE
Subject description: Portable applications to run under WINE - which DON'T need 'installing'...
 

Afternoon, boys & girls.

I've always used WINE in Puppy. Despite Linux having an equivalent for pretty much anything that Windows offers, there's still the odd occasion when you want to do something for which there is no direct equivalent. Either that, or you're so used to using a particular application in Windows that's it's more hassle than it's worth to learn the Linux equivalent.

In the last couple of years, I've discovered that many of the apps/programs offered at PortableApps.com will happily run under many versions of WINE. I can't speak for the more recent offerings (I use those compiled by version2013), since, like many people, I've settled on the one version of WINE that works for me. In my case, this happens to be WINE 1.7.51.

(Don't forget, this is something that requires a wee bit of experimenting. WINE functionality often 'breaks' between versions; regressions are not at all uncommon, although the WINE Project are steadily getting better at this, release by release).

I thought it might be handy for some of you to know which portable apps are known to definitely work with WINE & Puppy.....bearing in mind that this can be a bit of a lottery, and use of the WineHQ database is strongly recommended.

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The Portables I've tried that work for me under 1.7.51 are as follows (and do bear in mind that I've only begun to scratch the surface here; there's a lot more available than I've listed here, many of which I, personally, don't have a use for.) There's a huge section of portable games, for instance...

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Graphics

IrfanView - image editor and viewer.
LaZPaint - as above.
PhotoFiltre - editing & processing of photos.
Dia - good for doing diagrams.
Fotografix - very simple version of Photoshop.
SmartDeblur - used for deblurring/sharpening of images. I know Geoffrey uses this one, and has re-built a version that gets rid of certain annoying start-up features.
PicPick - very similar to our native Linux app, 'HotShots'.

Documents/word processing

Jarte - the well-known basic w.p., based on the Windows 'Notepad' engine. Actually chock-full of neat little features.
SumatraPDF - another well-known, very basic PDF viewer.
Notepad++ - again, based on the Notepad 'engine'.....basically, a way more full-featured version of Notepad.

Multimedia

SMPlayer - the portable version actually works OK under WINE.....so long as you don't push it too hard!
VLC - ditto, as above.....although not quite as stable.

Odds & ends

Telegram - the portable will often work where the Linux native version won't, due to glibc requirements.
7-Zip portable - needs no introduction.
PWGen - this generates random passwords. It does have its uses!
PopMan - I've found this one just today; it's a very lightweight email notifier/viewer. Works nicely, too; it can all be accessed/controlled via its tray icon.

(EDIT:- Just tried out, literally a few minutes ago (18:30), 'VirtualMagnifyingGlass'. Self-explanatory, of course.....but works really, really well. Again, runs from a tray icon; you can change its appearance, change the size of the area you want to magnify (and add/remove a border for the magnifier), invert colours, zoom up and down via the mouse wheel.....all sorts of nifty tricks. And everything works as it should.

Not bad at all.....and extremely useful.)


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The one thing to remember about these things is crucial; you do NOT 'install' these as you would normally do with Windows apps running under WINE - Mikeslr will back me up on this one. You run the 'installer' (really just an 'archiver'), which merely unpacks them into a location of your choice. I keep mine in a remote folder, called 'PortableApps', sym-linked into /root of each Pup, and referenced/started via custom Menu entries I've made up for them.

You can also just drag the .exe file of each app onto the desktop, then rename & tart-up with an icon, if so desired.

This is only for starters. I'd love to hear from anybody else who's got any other portables running/working successfully for them. We could expand this into an index for these things!


Mike. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Jan 2018, 22:20    Post subject: Re: Windows PortableApps under WINE
Subject description: Portable applications to run under WINE - which DON'T need installing...
 

Mike Walsh wrote:

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The one thing to remember about these things is crucial; you do NOT 'install' these as you would normally do with Windows apps running under WINE - Mikeslr will back me up on this one. You simply run the installer, which unpacks them into a location of your choice. I keep mine in a remote folder, called 'PortableApps', sym-linked into /root of each Pup, and referenced/started via custom Menu entries I've made up for them.
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Mike. Wink


Correct-a-mundo. Laughing

I keep mine on /mnt/home in a folder I simply named 'xp-apps', without the quotes. I like a clean desktop --no icons beyond "Save" -- but don't like having to spend a lot of time file-browsing to folders. I guess I could just have book-marked it. But I hadn't thought that far when I created the attached xp-app.pet. Shows up in the filesystem section of the Menu with a suitable icon. I still, then, have to browse into the specific folder of the desired portable and click its executable.

You can edit this line in /usr/share/applications/xp-apps.desktop

Exec=roxfiler /mnt/home/xp-apps

to point to your containing folder.

The thing is, I don't often use any of the portables I've accumulated. About the only one I do use is Avidemux and for that I created its own 'menu-pet'. Linux versions of Avidemux are probably just as good, and are available as 64-bit. But I'm used to XP Avidemux's GUI.

There's a post somewhere --IIRC in this Section of the Forum-- which discusses creating your own Menu listing for Applications running under Wine. I think that since it was written Mike Walsh put me on to the fact that it is only necessary to include in the pet a file (1), /usr/share/applications/APPLICATION_NAME and (2) an icon if a suitable icon is not already on your system.

The one for my AvidemuxXP reads:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=AvidemuxXP
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/avidemux.png
Comment=Video Editor
Exec=wine.sh /mnt/home/xp-apps/AvidemuxXP/avidemux.exe
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=AudioVideo;
GenericName=avidemux

Note, I run Wine portable. If you run 'regular' Wine, you would just delete the ".sh" from the Exec argument. Boldings are for emphasis/clarity, not done in the actual argument.

Rather than mention the Window portables I've accumulated and rarely use, I'll just provide this link to what may be the most comprehensive list of available portables, with links to their download locations: http://www.lupopensuite.com/bestapps.htm. About every year someone publishes a "Best Portable Apps" and "Essential Portable Apps".

I don't recall WineHQ providing reports about portable apps. But it's always good to check there. If the install version runs, its almost certain that the portable version will. IMHO the portable version should be preferred even if it is not the latest. Portables are designed not to write to Windows Registry, so that don't write to Wine's 'false' Window Registry, which I think is somewhat more fragile. If a portable doesn't work --and not all do-- you just delete its folder.

That also means it's safe to explore. If there's a window program you like and it's available as a portable, the worst that can happen is you've wasted your time.

However, I wouldn't recommend using cleaning programs, registry cleaning programs or similar applications which could make drastic changes beyond that which they are supposed to do under Windows. Nor use any Window's program's 'delete' module. IIRC, intending to delete one file while running 7-Zip, I deleted an entire directory. Wine isn't Windows. Of course, if after checking WineHQ and finding reports of their successful and safe usage, that's a different story.

mikesLr

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 21:14    Post subject:  

Just tried out another one from the PortableApps.com site, in the 'Graphics' section. If you've got WINE installed, and want a full-featured screen-capture-cum-editor-plus-lots of-other-extras, then give PicPick a try.

I thought our native HotShots was good.....but this thing knocks spots off it, for ease of use, and features. It works 100%, and this is from late last year; the current, up-to-date version.

You've got your various screen-capture options; a full-featured editor; color picker & color palette; a magnifier (not as good as VirtualMagnifyingGlass from above, but you can't have everything); a pixel ruler (for measuring images); cross-hair, for finding the centre of things; a protractor.....and even a whiteboard. And it all works.....perfectly, too!

Since I run the same version of WINE in all my Pups, I've a sneaking suspicion I know what I'm going to be using from now on; I'm that impressed with this.

Thoroughly recommended.


Mike. Wink

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